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Classic cartoon scores like G.I. Joe, Thundercats, Ducktales that seem to be a challenge to get released otherwise and wouldn't require a large orchestra in doing so. Also has a large enough fanbase to make it happen.
I would love Thundercats and Ducktales , but why these would need a re-recording since the master tapes exist, and they sound excellent from samples I have heard?
Bernard Hoffer and Ron Jones have all the material ready to be released, but apparently noone is interested.
Who is "no one"? The labels?
yes, noone is the labels and Disney apparently (i wasn't talking about fans who want these scores.)
As far as Ducktales is concerned, I had personally emailed Mr. Ron Jones, and he said that the music is controlled by Disney so, it's up to them.
A re-recording would be a cheaper way?
Why do I think it would be more expensive?
(getting the rights for the re-recording AND paying the musicians etc. while the release of the master tapes doesn't involve paying an orchestra and sessions)
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A re-recording would be a cheaper way?
Why do I think it would be more expensive?
(getting the rights for the re-recording AND paying the musicians etc. while the release of the master tapes doesn't involve paying an orchestra and sessions)
But a rerecording doesn't involve "getting rights". There's a small fee one pays to the performance rights organization but it's nothing like the amount one pays to license a original sountrack (especially one performed by members of the AFM)
James Fitz said about a score:
"but first I would need to get the permission of the composer and the publishers....and that takes time... "
i must have read it wrong that getting permission means paying for rights?
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Jan 17, 2015 - 9:29 AM
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cody1949
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Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade, but while I'd dearly love to see re-recordings of NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, ON DANGEROUS GROUND, ENDLESS NIGHT, JOAN OF ARC, and others besides, I suspect any dreams of getting them financed through Kickstarter are more likely to result in a rude awakening than an actual recording. My guess is that almost nothing that isn't connected to some hugely successful franchise with a built-in fan base beyond the film score world - Bond, Star Trek, Star Wars, Batman, Superman, etc. - is going to be able to attract anything close to the $25K that James Fitzpatrick has set as the bar for getting MOONRAKER done. All our other wants are the kinds of recordings that label owners who are also film music lovers will undertake only if they can be subsidized with the money from more successful projects (or maybe if someone is looking for a tax write-off). I'd love to be proven wrong, but I have a bad feeling these big orchestral "Kickstarter dream projects" are going to turn out to be "Kickstarter pipe-dream projects".
Of course the only way we can know we can know for sure is if we give it a shot, and if MOONRAKER makes its goal (which I'm guessing it will) then sooner or later we'll have a chance to find out what's achievable beyond Bond.
The thought that you are right is distressing to say the least, but you are probably correct. Can you imagine something as worthy as THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and JOAN OF ARC being turned down for a HOWARD THE DUCK and the like ? Thank God, DUEL IN THE SUN is going to be done without a kickstarter. JAMES FITZPATRICK HAS CLASS !
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Posted: |
Jan 17, 2015 - 4:02 PM
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PFK
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Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade, but while I'd dearly love to see re-recordings of NIGHT OF THE HUNTER, ON DANGEROUS GROUND, ENDLESS NIGHT, JOAN OF ARC, and others besides, I suspect any dreams of getting them financed through Kickstarter are more likely to result in a rude awakening than an actual recording. My guess is that almost nothing that isn't connected to some hugely successful franchise with a built-in fan base beyond the film score world - Bond, Star Trek, Star Wars, Batman, Superman, etc. - is going to be able to attract anything close to the $25K that James Fitzpatrick has set as the bar for getting MOONRAKER done. All our other wants are the kinds of recordings that label owners who are also film music lovers will undertake only if they can be subsidized with the money from more successful projects (or maybe if someone is looking for a tax write-off). I'd love to be proven wrong, but I have a bad feeling these big orchestral "Kickstarter dream projects" are going to turn out to be "Kickstarter pipe-dream projects".
Of course the only way we can know we can know for sure is if we give it a shot, and if MOONRAKER makes its goal (which I'm guessing it will) then sooner or later we'll have a chance to find out what's achievable beyond Bond.
The thought that you are right is distressing to say the least, but you are probably correct. Can you imagine something as worthy as THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER and JOAN OF ARC being turned down for a HOWARD THE DUCK and the like ? Thank God, DUEL IN THE SUN is going to be done without a kickstarter. JAMES FITZPATRICK HAS CLASS !
All of the above comments are very interesting and might very well be true. We will have to wait for future Kickstarter possible projects like NIGHT OF THE HUNTER etc., and see what happens.
Then we will know for sure. When I look at much of the "music" that is on CDs these days, and an Alfred Newman CD sells poorly, I just have to shake my head in amazement. Such is the times .........
Yes indeed Cody we are lucky to have people like James Fitzpatrick and labels like Kritzerland, LLL, Intrada, Varese, SAE, BYU etc.
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