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 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

This is kind of a revisiting and also a way to introduce some newbies to Lee Holdridge’s ROUSING and GORGEOUS score for the movie BUFFALO GIRLS. I can’t really do much more than introduce major themes because I’ve never seen the movie (yet), so I don’t know how it synchs to the visuals. If anyone here has seen this movie, please chime in.

What I do know is that the music is marvelous. I’m reminded at time of Poledouris and Elmer Bernstein, and I love both of those composers.

About two months ago, someone posted the whole film score on youtube, so you can hear a lot more of the score if enjoy these samples.

For those of you who like more dissonant and less thematic music, here is the track called THE STORM.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB4qF4PXGX0

A secondary but attractive minor theme from the movie is called BLUE and DORA’S theme.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHDE6W2XJKI

The best version in my opinion of the MAIN THEME starts below at the 1:06 mark to the end. It is the finale of the movie. This theme is used at various times throughout the soundtrack, and reminds me a bit of Poledouris’ music. I call it a kind of an “open spaces” theme. I can visualize rather large, grand open spaces that we often see in westerns. It is also played softly at times and seems to connote sadness or tragedy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeh2RsD1U2Y

My absolute favorite theme from this soundtrack called THE GREAT RIDE. I can certainly hear some channeling of Elmer Bernstein in its western rhythms. It is a thematic action cue. In the center of this cue is the Main Theme played with more speed followed again by the action cue. It is rousing and spectacular. I especially love the swirling violins in the last part of this track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XpXPBxdckHQ

Enjoy.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Preston Neal Jones   (Member)

Joan, did you ever mention this film/score in passing on another thread? If not you, then somebody see must have, because I remember reading some praise for it and then seeking it out and ordering it. I certainly don't regret the purchase, but then, I've never regretted listening to anything by Mr. Holdridge.

(And you now have only two degrees of separation from him, since I met him when he conducted the soundtrack for Rozsa's DEAD MEN DON'T WEAR PLAID.)

smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 2:11 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)

I agree with you about this score, Joan; it is a great one. And THE GREAT RIDE is one of my favorite cues. I have it on one of my western themes CDs that I put together.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 2:26 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

PNJ, I've probably mentioned this score before, but if you type in Buffalo Girls right now into the search engine, this current topic doesn't even show up. Very strange.

And mgh, I too put The Great Ride on a western CD compilation. It is so very good.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 3:03 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think I have two CD incarnations of this?
Was it issued twice with different material?
Haven't played it for yonks, so thanks for the reminder Joan. Will dig em out and take em
for a Great Ride! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 3:41 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Kevin, I only have the one CD. I don't know about a two CD release. Mine contains BUFFALO GIRLS and GUNFIGHTER'S MOON. I like Buffalo Girls a lot more than Gunfighter's Moon. However there is one great cue on Gunfighter's Moon called THE RIDE.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgoM7GXQHv8

Great western cues often seem to have "Ride" in them.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 5:18 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I'm turning in for the night now Joan, so I will check tomorrow, but I'm pretty sure I bought it first
as a two-fer with Gunfighters Moon (about 30 mins each) and then saw a single release promo
of Buffalo Girls after that with nearly double the length of music.
Catch ya tomorrow...Goodnight smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 28, 2014 - 5:35 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

There was a single release promo but I'm pretty sure it contained the exact same tracks as the twofer.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 3:17 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Okay, checked my Lee Holdridge section and Johnny G has got a better memory than me.
I first bought one of those old Intrada-style promo's from SAE which has 23 tracks from Buffalo Girls....R.T = 41'24
Then, Prometheus did one of their Film Music of Lee Holdridge promo's with the same 23 tracks PLUS 8 tracks from Gunfighter's Moon...R.T = 26 mins approx.
I'm gonna play the latter today.
I wonder if there's any difference in sound on Buffalo Girls.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Right off the bat, I'm reminded of TEXAS and PASTIME, two other scores by LH that I love.
Have you heard either of those Joan?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 9:20 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

I too have the Prometheus combo CD, Kev. Let us know if there is a sound difference with SAE.
I have not heard Texas or Pastime. Drat.

I'm wondering if anyone here has seen this movie and if it was any good?

 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I too have the Prometheus combo CD, Kev. Let us know if there is a sound difference with SAE.
I have not heard Texas or Pastime. Drat.

I'm wondering if anyone here has seen this movie and if it was any good?



You should get your hands on TEXAS, Joan!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 29, 2014 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Johnny, we do have a western channel on our cable TV, and I think TEXAS has played on it. I'll try to watch it next time because I love a lot of music from various westerns.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I love Lee Holdridge's Western scores, Buffalo Girls and Texas are two of my favorites. I love those bold, expressive themes. I also love his feature score for Old Gringo. Dude knows Westerns.

Joan, if you haven't heard Texas, you should!

Holdridge did a lot of exceptional scores for television movies. Into Thin Air: Death On Everest and The Tuskegee Airmen spring to mind (I remember tuning into HBO for the beginning of the latter, and being blown away by that soaring main theme).

Joan, I don't know if you saw this thread, but there is a piece of (non-film) music we're discussing that I think is right up your alley: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=107296&forumID=1&archive=0

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 9:14 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Hey Josh, thanks for chiming in. I do have Old Gringo, but it never grabbed me the way Buffalo Girls did. It is good but different. I'm actually picking up the DVD for TEXAS from my local library today so that I can hear the score. Also, I've "sort of" been tracking the Yellowstone topic and need to listen to all those "cowboy" samples. Thanks for the reminder.

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Old Gringo is more subtle. If you see the (pretty good) film it was composed for you'll appreciate it a lot more.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 31, 2014 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

Old Gringo is more subtle. If you see the (pretty good) film it was composed for you'll appreciate it a lot more.

Yavar


OLD GRINGO is a *fabulous* work by Holdridge - actually very much my favorite score of his. I may be biased however, by memory association: I had the privilege of speaking with Mr Holdridge after he read a glowing review I wrote for SOUNDTRACK Magazine in praise of his colorful, beautiful work for this underrated film (a labor of love by Jane Fonda, but dismissed unfairly in the press as a vanity project). The nicest, more personable fellow you could imagine.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 2, 2015 - 11:31 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Zoragoth, I envy you getting to meet this composer.

I do like the score for Old Gringo. I just play Buffalo Girls more often than Old Gringo. I did see this movie, and I enjoyed the movie. The more subtle score fit this movie, and I'm a big Peck-Smits fan.

I watched TEXAS tonight. Thanks to all of you who recommended this music. Wow, I really enjoyed those sweeping and gentle themes, and some of the orchestrations reminded me of Buffalo Girls. I wish Hollywood and big movies would have used Holdridge more often.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2015 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   bobbengan   (Member)

I watched TEXAS tonight. Thanks to all of you who recommended this music. Wow, I really enjoyed those sweeping and gentle themes, and some of the orchestrations reminded me of Buffalo Girls. I wish Hollywood and big movies would have used Holdridge more often.

This one is a pretty good work by Holdridge as well, even if its main theme isn't his BEST creation ever.

I did find it very amusing that there's a secondary theme in there (I think for a general or major?) that pops up now and then that's "inspired" heavily by the rousing theme from the last movement of Respighi's PINES OF ROME!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 3, 2015 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CD-Original-Score-James-A-Micheners-TEXAS-composed-LEE-HOLDRIDGE-PROMO-/231435254419?pt=Music_CDs&hash=item35e29dba93

TEXAS promo is up for grabs at ebay (I'm not the seller btw, just the messenger) smile

 
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