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 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   fisch   (Member)

FRIDAY, APRIL 25

STAR WARS---a rumor claims a Boba Fett spin-off movie is being planned. Lucasfilm and Disney executives had a meeting and were overheard to have said, " Lucasfilm wants Boba Fett to remain menacing and scary but we have to make him the hero of the film and it is a real challenge."





TAKEN 3---Luc Besson commented on the latest movie, "TAKEN 1 and 2 is, in fact, the same film in two parts. The first act, someone is taken, and the second act is that revenge. You can see the films back to back and they go together.
The third film is another story that has nothing to do with him and his family. No one is taken. The dog is not taken. It's another story with the same characters.
t's different, but it's very good. It's probably the best of the three for me, in terms of the script. The first one was really not pretentious. It was a small film. We were surprised by the success of it because it was honest. Liam [Neeson] was not a super kick-ass actor."
Besson said a reboot of THE TRANSPORTER series is also underway with a new actor replacing Jason Statham.





PHAROAH---new HBO series underway with Ridley Scott as director/executive producer. It will focus on the extraterrestrial origins of ancient Egypt with an “alternate explanation for the foundation and ascent of the ancient Egyptian empire”.





FRIDAY THE 13Th---one-hour tv series underway based on the slasher movie franchise which focus on Jason and the Voorhees family in different time periods.

SHERLOCK---Martin Freeman said a tv special may be in the future, "Mark Gatiss may beat me up, but there is an idea for this one-off special that’s such a good idea, and as I was listening to it, I thought, ‘We’ve just got to do this’.
And I don’t know when we are going to be able to do it, unfortunately. It’s a fantastic, really mouth-watering idea, but I really don’t know when we are going to get to do it.”

BLOOD FATHER---Erin Moriarity (TRUE DETECTIVE) will co-star with Mel Gibson in this movie about an ex-con who protects his teenage daughter from drug dealers seeking to kill her.





BEN-HUR---Mark Burnett and Roma Downey (THE BIBLE) have joined the reboot movie as co-producers.

BATMAN VS. SUPERMAN---Ray Fisher will play Cyborg.

WATCH DOGS---Sony Pictures movie underway based on the video game with a script by Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick (ZOMBIELAND).

JEM AND THE HOLOGRAMS---the Jon M. Chu movie will star Aubrey Peeples (NASHVILLE) as Jem. Stefanie Scott, Hayley Kiyoko and Aurora Perrineau will co-star.

PAN---Amanda Seyfried will play Mary. Hugh Jackman, Garrett Hedlund and Rooney Mara also star in the Peter Pan origin movie.

MPH---upcoming Mark Millar comic book whose rights were bought by producer Lorenzo di Bonaventure (HARRY POTTER, TRANSFORMERS). The comic book plot involves "...a group of hard-luck teens in Motor City stumble upon a street drug called MPH, they gain the power of super speed. Will they use it to save the world? Hell no! Not when there’s dolla, dolla bills to be had, y’all. A high-octane urban adventure, MPH brings you super speed like you’ve never seen before!"

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)



FRIDAY THE 13Th---one-hour tv series underway based on the slasher movie franchise which focus on Jason and the Voorhees family in different time periods.


Between this, the upcoming SCREAM series, and Bates Motel, I'm wondering when we'll get a HALLOWEEN tv show wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 12:39 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

" Lucasfilm wants Boba Fett to remain menacing and scary but we have to make him the hero of the film and it is a real challenge."

Would that be the same Lucasfilm who turned the uber-cool and distinctly menacing Boba Fett of Empire into a pathetic wimp of a character in Jedi, where he screams like a little girl before dying a slapstick death?

And the same Lucasfilm who promoted Jango Fett as menacing and scary in advanced materials for AOTC but actually put on screen a clumsy buffoon who operates his jet pack like Arnie did in Jingle All The Way, before eventually just standing still in front of Mace Windu, with a sign around his neck which says "Slice here"?

Menacing and scary? Mincing and silly more like. They might as well get flaming Jim Carey to play him in a stand-alone movie.

 
 Posted:   Apr 25, 2014 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

How can a cinema-going audience get taken 3 times?

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 2:19 AM   
 By:   Ron Hardcastle   (Member)

Re: How can a cinema-going audience get taken 3 times?

I'm not at all a fan of action films, but got so hooked on the first "Taken" that I ended up buying it on Blu-ray. And while 2 is a letdown, whenever I come across it while HD channel surfing, it's hard NOT to watch it. From what Besson has said, it looks like it's been reinvented for 3, and I'll be curious to see what they've done with it. Did feel that having everyone speaking English in 2 lost some credibility for me.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.

Whether his control now is sufficient to keep Fett in that weak place remains unclear. Any Fett movie will have to 'rescue' the character from Lucas's control if it's going to have any chance of working.

Also, IMHO there's no point in trying to make the Fett character a hero. The story would need to have someone else be the hero (perhaps hunting down Fett in some fashion), and Fett be allowed to be the 'bad guy' for all he's worth.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 6:42 AM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

I didn't even find Fett threatening in "EMPIRE". He didn't *do* anything, other than figure out where Solo and the Falcon were going. Vader and the Empire did all the dirty work, handing Solo over to Fett on a silver platter (literally!) to take to Jabba the Hutt.


 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 7:25 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

STAR WARS---a rumor claims a Boba Fett spin-off movie is being planned. Lucasfilm and Disney executives had a meeting and were overheard to have said, " Lucasfilm wants Boba Fett to remain menacing and scary but we have to make him the hero of the film and it is a real challenge."

Leaving aside whether he was ever scary or cool or whatever, I don't understand the alleged quotation. Why do they have to make him the hero of the film? Why can't he be the protagonist without being, strictly, a hero? Make him a bad guy but with a personal/professional code, that kind of thing. Audiences love ye olde antihero who ends up doing a right thing but for the wrong reasons.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 9:30 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)

STAR WARS---a rumor claims a Boba Fett spin-off movie is being planned. Lucasfilm and Disney executives had a meeting and were overheard to have said, " Lucasfilm wants Boba Fett to remain menacing and scary but we have to make him the hero of the film and it is a real challenge."

Leaving aside whether he was ever scary or cool or whatever, I don't understand the alleged quotation. Why do they have to make him the hero of the film? Why can't he be the protagonist without being, strictly, a hero? Make him a bad guy but with a personal/professional code, that kind of thing. Audiences love ye olde antihero who ends up doing a right thing but for the wrong reasons.


Exactly. Just the very nature of his occupation as a bounty hunter lends itself to plenty of story options that can work very well, while at the same time maintaining his status as a bad guy. Granted Fett worked for some unsavory people (Jabba and Darth Vader) but I am guessing he hunted at least a few people who did despicable things, and deserved being brought to justice.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I didn't even find Fett threatening in "EMPIRE". He didn't *do* anything, other than figure out where Solo and the Falcon were going. Vader and the Empire did all the dirty work, handing Solo over to Fett on a silver platter (literally!) to take to Jabba the Hutt.

But he had a cool sinister voice. wink Fett is not a hero. What's with Disney lately? Maleficent apparently was abused, slighted, misunderstood, (whatever) and now Fett is just a working class guy trying to put food on the table? roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

What's with Disney lately? Maleficent apparently was abused, slighted, misunderstood, (whatever) and now Fett is just a working class guy trying to put food on the table? roll eyes


Reminds me of Kimberly Peirce's reframing of Carrie as a "super-hero origin story". Ugh.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

What's with Disney lately? Maleficent apparently was abused, slighted, misunderstood, (whatever) and now Fett is just a working class guy trying to put food on the table? roll eyes


Reminds me of Kimberly Peirce's reframing of Carrie as a "super-hero origin story". Ugh.


Up to the 70's we had hero's. In the 80's we had flawed hero's. The 90's we had anti-hero's. 2000's the villain's are the hero's. We've sure become cynical, if not self righteous!

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 11:43 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:
I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.



Seriously? A random opinion, expressed in a reasonable way, now qualifies as a "ridiculous conspiracy theory"?
Come on, mate.

As for Boba Fett...
He was never menacing or cool. A very secondary character, at best. The plot would have moved forward just as it did if it had been any of those other bounty hunters that Vader gathered up. And it got even worse when his origin was revealed to be just some sadistic little kid.

However, I will say this was a very evocative and iconic shot:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 2:03 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


Did Lucas really say that? I always thought he took a sort of "cop out" position when asked about which film was his favorite, always answering with something along the lines of, "To me, they're all one long movie", or "You can't pick a favorite; it's like picking one of your children as a favorite", etc....


Re: Jango's death

Didn't his rocket pack malfunction from having been damaged in his encounter with the "Reek" (the red horned creature in the arena) a moment before? It may have still been a lame death to some people, but he didn't "just stand still". And at least he was taken down by a Jedi (and the second most powerful one at that!), unlike his "son" --- wiped out on *accident* by a blind guy igniting his rocket pack. (Those Fett boys just don't have any luck with those flying contraptions, do they?)

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

FRIDAY, APRIL 25

STAR WARS---a rumor claims a Boba Fett spin-off movie is being planned. Lucasfilm and Disney executives had a meeting and were overheard to have said, " Lucasfilm wants Boba Fett to remain menacing and scary but we have to make him the hero of the film and it is a real challenge."




I'd much rather see a spin-off movie starring the Sarlacc pit. wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 3:12 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The original Star Wars was benign hokum that entertained a lot of people. Then there were three.

The next one was straight forward. It was like the first in it's relatively uncomplicated episodic plot structure but by then, it had become a parallel universe which at times seemed to rival the real one - that would be the one in which you and I are embedded no matter how much you'd like to be in the other. The Jedi midichlorians in the alternate uni are the mitochondria of the here and now, with some pixie dust properties thrown in, so I've read.

The next, when it came, went into warp drive mode because it suddenly crammed in more complicated peripheral story elements and added them to the central plot. The result of that was gobbledygook that even the poor grand moff Tarkin himself would have been hard pressed to comprehend.

The fix for that was a return to lego-like storytelling in the final offing. It's like the unraveling of the Big Bang. First there was light, then there was inflation and asymmetry. The final state of the Star Wars universe is more than likely to be revealed as 'flat.' Which is to say it will continue to expand but at an ever slower rate for an infinitely long period of time. And that, brother, is one hell of a lot longer than it takes to be digested in the black hole insides of Sarlacc.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:
I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.



Seriously? A random opinion, expressed in a reasonable way, now qualifies as a "ridiculous conspiracy theory"?
Come on, mate.


Apologies. I didn't mean to be rude, and should have found a better way to phrase that. I was just trying to say I find that theory pretty wildly implausible. I haven't seen anything to indicate Lucas was trying to sabotage the character (indeed, I can see Fett's "death" as being intended to be really "cool" or whatever, regardless of how "pointless and weak" some viewers might perceive it to be, and it's certainly memorable). If Lucas really felt that way about the character, I very much doubt he'd have ever allowed the character to be brought back in the numerous EU stories that feature him after the events of the movie, and I don't see why he'd be pissed off with the way the fans embraced the character in the first place.

And I think Jango's death was really intended to be pretty much the total opposite of "weak" - I mean, he's decapitated by lightsaber, for crying out loud. It's surely meant to be one of the more "badass" deaths in the whole series. I don't see how his death could be made less "weak," while still keeping it a death.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 4:45 PM   
 By:   BobJ   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.



Yeah, right.

From George Lucas, the man who made Jar Jar the reason the Empire got a foothold in the senate after people said how much they hated him. The man that put kid Anakin on the cover of the Blu-Ray sets instead of Luke after people said how much they hate him. The man that made even more changes to the original trilogy long after the fans said how much they hated the changes. The man that added "NOOOOOOO!!!" to the end of Return Of The Jedi after people said how much they hated it in Revenge Of The Sith...

Oh no, he has never shown a vindictive streak. That's just crazy talk there.

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2014 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Ian J.   (Member)

Re Boba Fett:

I always have the suspicion that because 'Empire' was Lucas's least favourite of the Star Wars movies (by his own admission, I believe), he felt sufficiently pissed off with the fan admiration for the Boba Fett character that he decided to give Fett the most pointless and weak death in Jedi as his own 'revenge'. The same might be possible to say of Jango Fett, in that Lucas kept the weakness of the death as part of the mirroring he was doing between the original and prequel trilogies.


With all due respect, I think that's one of the more ridiculous Star Wars conspiracy theories I've ever encountered, and I've encountered quite a few.


The bit about Boba Fett is just my onion on things. The issues with 'Empire' and it being Lucas's least favourite are something I believe to be true, but I can't point you towards any hard corroborating evidence, sorry.

 
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