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 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)



edit: wow, the CD is out of print, but hey--6 bucks for the download. The CD would be scratched to hell anyway, so you're better off.


I'd still love to know who exactly was responsible for the idea of having 3-D dinosaur cutout packaging for this release. Do they think soundtrack collectors have the maturity level of six-year-old boys?

Chris

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

All I can remember from the score is 'The Lost World' theme and the loud bass notes when the Dino appears in San Diego (hope that's not a spoiler for anyone, but here you never know). I should probably give it another listen, but I doubt I'd be too fussed with an expansion.

You should! It's a great headphones listen (I'm doing it now!), from a time just before Shawn Murphy's recordings took an unfortunate turn (what in the hell DID happen after 1997?). The only really bad track on here is that completely bad final cue, which inexplicably features the Speed theme and ends with a terrible recording of the Jurassic Park island theme.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:25 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

I didn't pay much attention to this score when it came out, only picked it up a few years ago (long after this thread started). However, it really is one of John Williams' most exciting and propulsive scores. It's a great example of a composer going in a completely different direction for a sequel.

I watched the film recently to see how the music worked in context. It's really too bad the movie is so damn awful, definitely one of Spielberg's worst. I can honestly say that I think the only good thing to come out of it was Williams' score.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Chris Avis   (Member)

All I can remember from the score is 'The Lost World' theme and the loud bass notes when the Dino appears in San Diego (hope that's not a spoiler for anyone, but here you never know). I should probably give it another listen, but I doubt I'd be too fussed with an expansion.

You should! It's a great headphones listen (I'm doing it now!), from a time just before Shawn Murphy's recordings took an unfortunate turn (what in the hell DID happen after 1997?). The only really bad track on here is that completely bad final cue, which inexplicably features the Speed theme and ends with a terrible recording of the Jurassic Park island theme.


I actually love the Visitor in San Diego cue - it's always been one of the highlights of the score for me. I do agree that ending on the Island theme is a bit odd, given that it's hardly been featured in the score at all. I guess they figured that's what audiences were expecting for the credits..

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:50 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Still have no idea what killed the pilot of the boat leaving just his hands on the steering wheel. Biggest guffaw in Spielbergs canon. Any theories? And the film version of the 2 T Rex attack scene cue is my holiest of grails. This must be expanded now. Come on labels... everyone is loving dinosaur flicks right now! Perfect timing!

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I am sure any of the specialty labels would jump at the chance to issue an expanded The Lost World if Universal would only let them.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

All I can remember from the score is 'The Lost World' theme and the loud bass notes when the Dino appears in San Diego (hope that's not a spoiler for anyone, but here you never know). I should probably give it another listen, but I doubt I'd be too fussed with an expansion.

You should! It's a great headphones listen (I'm doing it now!), from a time just before Shawn Murphy's recordings took an unfortunate turn (what in the hell DID happen after 1997?). The only really bad track on here is that completely bad final cue, which inexplicably features the Speed theme and ends with a terrible recording of the Jurassic Park island theme.


I actually love the Visitor in San Diego cue - it's always been one of the highlights of the score for me. I do agree that ending on the Island theme is a bit odd, given that it's hardly been featured in the score at all. I guess they figured that's what audiences were expecting for the credits..

Chris


I was talking about the actual final track, the one after "Visitor In San Diego." God I hate this movie so much.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Don't remember a thing about the score from the film. Never even heard the score on CD. Guess I should seek it out and give it a chance.

We should really have prerequisites for admission to this board.


I blocked that movie and everything about it the moment I saw it. Was a traumatic experience.


It's totally horrible in every way (save for the trailer sequence), but come on, get the CD!

edit: wow, the CD is out of print, but hey--6 bucks for the download. The CD would be scratched to hell anyway, so you're better off.

http://www.amazon.com/Lost-World-Jurassic-Original-Soundtrack/dp/B000002P6K/ref=tmm_acd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=8-2&qid=1434552559


Thxs! I see it's on YT so I'll sample it first. I'm intrigued.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 11:05 AM   
 By:   BTTFFan   (Member)

I think I'm the only one on the planet that actually liked the film, especially the first half on Isla Sorna. Loved the Rescuing Sarah scene, and my favorite piece of music from the score, The Hunt, wasn't even in the film. Great workout music.

 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I think I'm the only one on the planet that actually liked the film, especially the first half on Isla Sorna. Loved the Rescuing Sarah scene, and my favorite piece of music from the score, The Hunt, wasn't even in the film. Great workout music.


You're not the only one! smile


Best regards,

the only one on the planet that actually liked "Crystal Skull"...!

cool

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 17, 2015 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   bondo321   (Member)

Highly underrated score! I gave it the cold shoulder back in 1997 because it wasn't Jurassic Park. But after giving it a second chance and utilizing the JWFan complete score analysis, I came to appreciate it's intricacies. It is badly in need of expansion, and something I would pick up in a heartbeat! I still *LOVE* the Lost World theme

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I think I'm the only one on the planet that actually liked the film, especially the first half on Isla Sorna. Loved the Rescuing Sarah scene, and my favorite piece of music from the score, The Hunt, wasn't even in the film. Great workout music.


You're not the only one! smile


Best regards,

the only one on the planet that actually liked "Crystal Skull"...!


Another lover of THE LOST WORLD here -- an incredibly underrated film!

I also think there are lots of good things in CRYSTAL SKULL, even if the warts are fairly apparent too.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 6:23 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

I think I'm the only one on the planet that actually liked the film, especially the first half on Isla Sorna. Loved the Rescuing Sarah scene, and my favorite piece of music from the score, The Hunt, wasn't even in the film. Great workout music.


You're not the only one! smile


Best regards,

the only one on the planet that actually liked "Crystal Skull"...!


Another lover of THE LOST WORLD here -- an incredibly underrated film!

I also think there are lots of good things in CRYSTAL SKULL, even if the warts are fairly apparent too.


The Lost World is my least favorite of the series, we've been at this before; I don't like Goldblum as the lead, this was also during the period where I didn't care for Jullianne Moore's acting (I think she has become a much better actress in recent years) and the movie overstays its visit with the King Kong ending and it's a movie which never settles down properly for me.

You do make a good point of bringing up Crystal Skull, in the sense that what both Lost World and Crystal Skull represent in the Spielberg canon are those rare occasions where he actually agreed to do a sequel most likely for a huge paycheck, as those movies scream to me Spielberg basically not caring and doing the studio a favor. And funny enough when you get Spielberg to say yes to such a proposition, what you end up with is a movie that looks like it could have been directed by the stand in director; someone who would have otherwise got the job and would have hit those Spielberg pointers anyway (like I gather is the case with the new movie).

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   kaseykockroach   (Member)

Say what you wish about the rest of the film, but I'll never understand how any sane individual could hate the San Diego rampage. That was my absolute favorite Jurassic Park scene as a kid. John Williams' score for the scene ("Visitor in San Diego") has long been one one of my favorites too, and the CD gets a frequent play for that alone.
In general though, I love the score for having a more consistent identity than the first film's score, and being more atmospheric and darker in tone. Also love the use of tribal drums throughout.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

The San Diego sequence was fun in its own way, but I would be rather be without it. Nothing in the JP series -- and hardly anything in the history of action cinema -- can match the trailer & cliff sequence from earlier in the film. A masterpiece. There are so many superb things in THE LOST WORLD that it's rather unfair to dismiss it due to a couple of small 'warts' here and there (San Diego, gymnastics routine etc.).

As it happens, I rank the four JP films by their chronological order.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 20, 2015 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

The Lost World is an imperfect film, but it's a great film, and in my opinion, the best possible direction the franchise could have gone after the first one. Comparisons are broken down immediately by placing the story on a completely different island with nearly a whole new cast of characters and by avoiding having to live up to the same levels of wonder and awe inspired by the first film by instead going for a darker, meaner, and generally more comic tone. They successfully upped the danger factor by putting the characters directly in the wild with free-roaming dinosaurs who have now begun to raise their own families and stake out their own territories, and they upped the base entertainment factor by increasing the kill count ten-fold (and I'm sure that number's no exaggeration either).

The dinosaurs themselves look spectacular—just as good if not even better than those in the first. If I'm going to watch any one of the Jurassic Park films purely for the spectacle of the dinosaurs themselves, it's going to be The Lost World. Introducing new dinosaurs like Stegosaurus, Pachycephalosaurus, and Parasaurolophus (more prominently featured here than in the first film) was a great way to recapture some of that jaw-dropping wonder. The compies were a clever substitute for the Dilophosaurus as the film's third predatory threat; rather than going big, they went small with these deceptively cute, scampering critters that fit perfectly with the film's darkly comical tone. And what's better than one T-rex and a trio of Velociraptors? Well obviously: two T-rexes and a whole raptor pack.

When I first saw the film, I was disappointed, even as a kid, that some of the cooler parts of Crichton's novel weren't included (camouflaging Carnotaurs, the nighttime raptor/motorcycle chase, Dodson raiding the island for eggs...errr, sound like Jurassic World anyone, haha?), but I quickly came to love the film for all that it did differently and all that it did right. Some characters do still definitely annoy me: Nick van Owen, Kelly, Ludlow, that baby T-rex that drives me up the walls every time it wails. But for every obnoxious character, you get a certified badass: Ian Malcolm, Eddie, Roland Tembo.

I'm surprised to hear people have issues with the rampage in San Diego. For me, that's what pushes the film over the edge from good solid fun to great entertainment. Just when you think all the danger has passed and everyone has escaped and you've happily gotten your full ticket's worth of entertainment—WHAM!—10-15 more minutes of T-rex tearing San Diego apart. Spielberg said somewhere that that's the sort of thing he normally would have left for a third film, but since he was sure this was going to be his last one, he decided to have some fun with it and play at King Kong/Godzilla for awhile. And boy am I glad he did. I could see how this sequence might not have been the smartest decision if—IF!—it didn't fit with the tone of the rest of the film or if the special effects and the action didn't come together as well as they did. But the San Diego sequence looks fantastic and it plays wonderfully with the rest of the film. It's like you get a climax on top of the island climax. Bonus entertainment—and isn't entertainment what these films are all about?

John Williams' score is perfect for this film, too. Just as they went a different direction with the story and the tone, so too did Williams go a different route with the sound of the score. Jungle drums and adventurous journeying music and just the bare minimum of referencing his themes from the first film. Smart moves all around with the direction they took with The Lost World. Again, it doesn't stand alongside the original Jurassic Park, but it was never intended to and it was never going to no matter the route they went.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2015 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Great thoughts, Tango. I agree with a lot of it.

I do, however, go to these films not only for the entertainment value (of which there is plenty, of course), but also to witness the creativity and inventiveness of the action setpieces -- alongside sequences that are more about sucking up the mood and being engrossed by the universe. All the first three films subscribe to this ideology, but the fourth abandons it -- for some reason -- for a jampacked action plot with little creativity in the action setpieces themselves.

THE LOST WORLD is not the masterpiece that the first film is, but it's a damn fine film -- chockful of cool Spielberg trademarks -- that doesn't get enough credit!

 
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