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I posted this on my personal blog the evening of the show:
Well... no spoilers...promise. Just me blathering for a bit.
I have loved The Walking Dead since day one. The stories about people and the situation(s) they are in and overcome. The walkers are nothing more than the background wallpaper and that was one of the many reasons I like the show.
Having seen the season premiere I'm more disappointed in the writers than anything else. I thought they pushed some serious boundaries with Terminus. The fact that our characters have more to fear from the normal (if you can call some of these bad guys that) people than they do the dead. That the special effects guys get to seriously strut their collective stuff with every episode and every unique walker kill. Its all pretty impressive work.
I get that this world is extremely violent and this isn't Little House on the Prairie.
Sometimes I wonder if the writers increase the amount of violence for the sake of topping themselves over and over...and in that vein it feel like they are railroading over the original intent of the stories. Not just that...but driving a goddamned freight train through the whole mess for shock value.
I could only think, wow, I'm starting to dislike the writers for what they are doing to the show I love. Its not about who dies for me...its the whole pointless dog and pony show put on for shock value alone. The meat was missing from the meal and all we got was the trimmings...and no gravy.
In all, I feel there was a much better way to tell the story without the choices made. Again, I'm not talking about who died. That part is inconsequential to the whole. I care about many of the characters like so many other fans of the show. The writers did this great job of fleshing most of them out for us to pick and choose who we like or don't. In Walking Dead...someone has to die.
If the writers wanted me to feel like I needed to take a long hot bath to wash myself clean of everything I just watched... they did a good job of it. I hope their proud.
I'm stubborn and am going to stick with it a little longer because the morbid curiosity in me wants to know where the hell this goes.
It's funny... but I didn't think I had limits to what I thought could or should be in a show. Maybe I'm growing soft in my old age.
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Is it too soon to predict that Maggie will deliver the fatal blow or shot when Negan finally gets his comeuppance?
Possibly saving Rick in the process.
That's my prediction too, I also see her leading the group a lot as time goes by.
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Well, after being repulsed and grossed out last week, now we have an almost comical episode, with Carol laughing at and mocking the new survivors we meet, moaning about them, then moving in next door!! (into probably THE most unsafe house we've ever seen in the series!!!).
I'm not sure how much longer I've got with this series.
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Nov 3, 2016 - 10:21 PM
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joan hue
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Spoilers ahead, of course.
For me, when it comes to The Walking Dead, I’m learning to expect the unexpected. I never saw a second death in this season’s opener. Also, I thought the 2nd episode would focus on Rick and his group licking their wounds. Instead, we get a new group headed by the strange Tiger King, and this group is also having to share 50% of their goods with Negan.
I kind of liked this episode because it seemed less gory than the first one. However, I grow weary of Carol’s continuous angst. It is wearing thin for me. Maybe there will be a Carol-Tiger King romance?
Also, isn’t there a 3rd group out there that we saw last season? I think that’s the group Maggie is heading towards to see their doctor. I can’t remember if that group also shares their goods with Negan. Anyone remember? I think that’s the group that has the Jesus character in it.
We’ve speculated that Rick or maybe Maggie would rise up to defeat Negan. It also seems plausible that Rick’s group, the Tiger King’s group and maybe the third group would somehow band together to defeat Negan. But that’s the problem. It is too predictable, and I think we are in for more unpredictable events. I’m better off expecting the unexpected.
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My own feeling was that to dedicate the entire episode to carol and a sideshow at that point when the world is ready for a bit more rick n co, was just scummy of the writers. I hate this thing where a successful show gets smug and starts thinking it can toy with an audience and toss them scraps because their arrogance has made them think they can do what they like.
Its like theyre saying We are so fkn great we can put these morons (the audience) in their place.
Whats next another 3 shows with maggie, one with daryl sitting in the back of a van and we dont see Rick and gang till next series?!
It isnt just American writers getting smug like this - we had it here with Sherlock too and a few other shows.
They get a good thing going and the moment they do the arrogance goes through the roof.
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The writing in walking dead has always been a bit baffling. They have so much time in a series but only half develop characters and then get them involved in relationships with seemingly the only reason to kill one of the couple off to create a bit of conflict/misery. They turn up at a safe place, tell everyone there that they're living a dream then proceed to make it terribly unsafe and get everyone killed. It's a very repetitious show that isn't really interested in doing anything else new or interesting. Last season was just rubbish. The crntral idea that kicked off the season made absolutely no sense. There were so many idiotic moments that were purely lazy writing it'd take about the length if the series to go yhrough them. It's a shame as it could be very interesting. It still suffers from Star Wars prequelitis, where characters sit or stand and have lengthy monologues about how much pain they've suffers or an info dump about who they are.
This season it took them an hour to do about 10 minute of story telling, followed by meeting this new crew which was half interesting but once again filled with character moments that make no sense. Also the threat level of the zombies just changes every. Time the script writers want to create a problem. I hope to see fewer twisted ankles from running this season too.
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Why is this on the General Discussion side of the board and not Non-Film Score Discussion?
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Looks like Bill is right.
Ep3 will probably be all about Daryl with Negan's gang (like the preview showed) and here's a teaser/spoiler? for Ep4, courtesy of dragon..
THE WALKING DEAD--synopsis for Episode 4 (November 13), which is extended to 85 minutes, is:
“The remaining members of the group try to keep it together in Alexandria; they receive a sobering visit.”
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The zombies in this show have become a bit of an irrelevance for some time now.
They're just there, to stumble into view when needed and deliver the odd shock attack/death or crowd chase sequence.
They could easily be removed from proceedings now and the series just follow a GANGS OF NEW AMERICA style scenario. I doubt we'd hardly notice them gone. Rick's dangling shenanigans (and foggy avoidance sans any weapon) in the latest episode was laughable.
I've watched the first six seasons of WALKING DEAD and think that it is overall a damn good show, very well written and certainly a notch up from the usual TV stuff. What I like about it is they keep an interesting story arc, yet at the same some episodes that are "self contained".
I know what the first episode of season 7 is gonna be like, and I'm not too happy about it, but what the heck, I'll watch season 7 once it is on Amazon Prime.
Yet, the show is not perfect, and one of the things that has really become pretty ridiculous are the zombies themselves. They are just not DANGEROUS enough, no one takes them seriously. I mean, yeah, sure, I know they are supposed to be dangerous in numbers, but they are so non-threatening and so easily dispatched by our seasoned characters, that it's hard to believe the zombie apocalypse ever happened since they are way to slow to be of any real threat.
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Dec 12, 2016 - 12:00 PM
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drop_forge
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Anyway it was a bloody night, of course. I must say I was yelling "Yahoo!" during the last 10 minutes. How wonderful to see Rick's core group (what is left of them) finally understand that they could not accept passivity anymore no matter what the cost. Being totally submissive was no longer an option and would not guarantee life. Negan is just too far gone and unpredictable. Time to rally the forces. Also the music during that last scene was very good.
Eh, they should have continued to play Negan, not indulge him, especially after seeing two crewman get terminal migraines. They could have set everything up — planted every Alexandrian with a heartbeat in every imaginable position across the treeline, in the various abandoned houses outside, in the weeds like the Viet Cong — while they still had their guns, and when he showed up with his "Little Pig!" rhyme, just started raining lead. No opening of the gate, no reply, no nada.
Also, we saw in an earlier episode that Alexandria actually has tunnels...what, too easy of a plot device for the writers to want to use?
"All the guns in the log..." Wow, no firearms kept OFF the books? Incredibly stupid. But the entire concept of Alexandria is stupid. Those people had everything except DirecTV and broadband when Rick & co. first showed up. 
TWD still has its moments, but this season's just a platform for JDM to chew up the scenery.
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Dec 12, 2016 - 1:26 PM
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joan hue
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Hey, drop_forge, you present some interesting ideas. I’d forgotten about such things as the tunnels in Alexandria. However, I wonder if someone had shot Negan, would another immediately rise and take his place? I think Rick will have to recruit all four camps to take on so many Saviors even if their leader is killed. However, maybe I’m wrong.
It wasn't a perfect season so far, but I'm still hooked.
“Silly show.” RoryR, you should do what I do when I can’t get into a series or hate it. When I start a series, I watch the pilot and maybe two more episodes. If the show causes personal cerebral self-flagellation, angst, and cognitive dissonance, OR if it fails to interest my Entertainment Epicenter, I just QUIT watching the show. I’m not into masochism. Saves me time to invest in other worthy shows. So why didn’t you quit TWD and Westworld? Was your point to just remind people how horrid shows are that some of us like? Why do you continue to watch shows you continuously hate or dislike?
Truly quitting a show that one dislikes saves on blood pressure medicine.
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