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 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 10:06 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

We're into the 4th series now and so far it's generally gone from strength to strength.
I thought the 1st series was solid, if unremarkable, but series 2 and 3 really developed things well and the time spent getting to know the characters really paid off during this time.
It can be a bit annoying when the zombies are used purely (and inconsistently) for shock value and actors' wage negotiations smile
I know Bear McCreary has lots of fans around here, although I've never heard anything remarkable by him that makes him stand out. His music for this series is solid, if unremarkable to me (although I remember a really nice piece at the mid-point of series 2, when a big/sad shock was revealed during a barn sequence).
Anyway, I suppose it had to happen at some point and I thought last weeks episode was the first really duff episode I've seen so far, with characters acting completely against type and some silly contrived moments that evoked plenty of tuts from me.
Thoughts anyone?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

We're into the 4th series now and so far it's generally gone from strength to strength.
I thought the 1st series was solid, if unremarkable, but series 2 and 3 really developed things well and the time spent getting to know the characters really paid off during this time.
It can be a bit annoying when the zombies are used purely (and inconsistently) for shock value and actors' wage negotiations smile
I know Bear McCreary has lots of fans around here, although I've never heard anything remarkable by him that makes him stand out. His music for this series is solid, if unremarkable to me (although I remember a really nice piece at the mid-point of series 2, when a big/sad shock was revealed during a barn sequence).
Anyway, I suppose it had to happen at some point and I thought last weeks episode was the first really duff episode I've seen so far, with characters acting completely against type and some silly contrived moments that evoked plenty of tuts from me.
Thoughts anyone?


At last report AMC (The production company) had NO INTEREST in releasing a score CD or even a digital download.

PERIOD.

Now I'm sure this will change at some point in the future, but don't expect it anytime soon.

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 2, 2014 - 8:47 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

We're into the 4th series now and so far it's generally gone from strength to strength.
I thought the 1st series was solid, if unremarkable, but series 2 and 3 really developed things well and the time spent getting to know the characters really paid off during this time.
It can be a bit annoying when the zombies are used purely (and inconsistently) for shock value and actors' wage negotiations smile
I know Bear McCreary has lots of fans around here, although I've never heard anything remarkable by him that makes him stand out. His music for this series is solid, if unremarkable to me (although I remember a really nice piece at the mid-point of series 2, when a big/sad shock was revealed during a barn sequence).
Anyway, I suppose it had to happen at some point and I thought last weeks episode was the first really duff episode I've seen so far, with characters acting completely against type and some silly contrived moments that evoked plenty of tuts from me.
Thoughts anyone?


A: The Walking Dead veers from gripping and highly entertaining to being brain dead stupid. Kinda stuck in the stupid pile right now.

B: as stated above, Bear confirmed some time back that AMC doesn't give a sh*t about a score CD, which is a shame since he does contribute some good stuff.

C: If you've never heard anything from his that stands out... go to LaLaLand's site and order the absolutely terrific Human Target 3 CD set... one HELL of a score big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:29 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Wouldn't McCreary be able to release it via his own label?
If AMC don't care, why would they stop him making it available to fans who desire it (not that I'm one of them, but these days, that thing can happen).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Wouldn't McCreary be able to release it via his own label?
If AMC don't care, why would they stop him making it available to fans who desire it (not that I'm one of them, but these days, that thing can happen).


Because they own THE IMAGES,MASTER RECORDINGS,PUBLISHING,Etc...

In short, they have the right NOT to have ANYONE do it and if you do release it without their permission, more then likely you'll get sued by them.

They are very protective of their copyright.

So until they decide to play ball, nothing is happening whatsoever.

Ford A. Thaxton.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


So what was Alex Ferguson doing at the Oscars?

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

There is a second volume of the soundtrack coming in a couple months. Too bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

"So what was Alex Ferguson doing at the Oscars?"
------------------------------
I heard (unconfirmed) that he was badgering Bradley Cooper and Brad Pitt into playing him in the film version of his life story THE PURPLE (NOSE) AND THE GLORY! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 3:45 PM   
 By:   richuk   (Member)


I know Bear McCreary has lots of fans around here, although I've never heard anything remarkable by him that makes him stand out. His music for this series is solid, if unremarkable to me (although I remember a really nice piece at the mid-point of series 2, when a big/sad shock was revealed during a barn sequence).


Yep, that would be the reveal of Sophia's death/zombification.

An absolutely heartbreaking scene - and easily one of the best musical moments of the entire show so far.

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Wouldn't McCreary be able to release it via his own label?
If AMC don't care, why would they stop him making it available to fans who desire it (not that I'm one of them, but these days, that thing can happen).


Because they own THE IMAGES,MASTER RECORDINGS,PUBLISHING,Etc...

In short, they have the right NOT to have ANYONE do it and if you do release it without their permission, more then likely you'll get sued by them.

They are very protective of their copyright.

So until they decide to play ball, nothing is happening whatsoever.

Ford A. Thaxton.


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We get that they own the copyright Ford.

But that doesn't answer the question of why AMC couldn't arrange to let McCreary do the hard work of releasing it on his label.

Breaking Bad and Mad Men have had multiple score releases, from composers I've never heard of. It makes zero sense for them to ignore TWD.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 4:13 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

But that doesn't answer the question of why AMC couldn't arrange to let McCreary do the hard work of releasing it on his label.

Breaking Bad and Mad Men have had multiple score releases, from composers I've never heard of. It makes zero sense for them to ignore TWD.


Perhaps they don't want potential competition with the non-score soundtrack releases.

That said, it does seem very odd. Bear is one of the few composers out there who's a name brand in his own right. Maybe not a household name, but he has a large and very devoted following who, mixed with the multitude of Walking Dead fans, would surely make a score release quite a hot seller.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

But that doesn't answer the question of why AMC couldn't arrange to let McCreary do the hard work of releasing it on his label.

Breaking Bad and Mad Men have had multiple score releases, from composers I've never heard of. It makes zero sense for them to ignore TWD.


Perhaps they don't want potential competition with the non-score soundtrack releases.

That said, it does seem very odd. Bear is one of the few composers out there who's a name brand in his own right. Maybe not a household name, but he has a large and very devoted following who, mixed with the multitude of Walking Dead fans, would surely make a score release quite a hot seller.


I was told this...AMC owns the Walking Dead, not Mad Men or Breaking Bad, and they do not want to do a soundtrack score album. The pop songs album they did involved a large advance from Universal Republic so they did it. That album did not sell as well as hoped so AMC must feel a score album won't sell anywhere near that to spend the time on a contract and other matters that allow a soundtrack to get released.

 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

That album did not sell as well as hoped

Then why is Vol.2 on its way?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 3, 2014 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Mr. Popular   (Member)

That album did not sell as well as hoped

Then why is Vol.2 on its way?


If the rumor is true they paid a large advance, it makes sense they'd try and get their money out of a follow up. 37,000 units sold is not a lot for a major label but it's enough to do another.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 4:35 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

This series continues to lumber along (like the zombies) at the moment for me.
The recent episodes haven't improved much (Daryl and the girl drinking moonshine was dull, dull, dull) and this weeks ep only a slight improvement.
These characters, who we've watched over the last 3 series survive by speed of thought and cunning are suddenly acting oh so dozy, it's maddening!
The sooner they all meet up at Terminus the better. It's treading too much water for me at the mo.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Kev, I agree with you. I think this is about giving actors lots of vacation time. The network will have 2-3 characters do two episodes, send them home, and then bring on 2-3 more characters to do an episode. Seems like there is nothing but extended filler going on right now. I hope it all improves quickly!

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I gave up on watching this show during season 3, which I thought was occasionally watchable/entertaining and often frustratingly awful, with characters I'd loved in the first season (and early second season) continuing to act totally out of character. Michonne was kinda cool but couldn't make up for all the stupid. WTF, Andrea. WTF, Rick. I just gave up.

The Walking Dead after Frank Darabont left is kinda like Heroes after Bryan Fuller left the writing staff. Such a shame as I thought the brief season 1 was brilliant.

I did continue to like Bear McCreary's scores though, even after the series got bad.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Eh, I still enjoy this show.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2014 - 8:53 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

That album did not sell as well as hoped


Well, releasing a barely 30 minute album, yeah. Plus the song selection sucks. I hate how they shoehorn songs into the show... bad songs... just slathered on there.

The show has enough issues without those rotten songs in there big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2014 - 5:02 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

Aye, I've noticed at least two crappy Nickleback-style songs chucked in to every episode these past few weeks, which have annoyed me more than the 'going through the motions' feeling of the series. I hope this show bucks up soon.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2014 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   musicpaladin2007   (Member)

What a bunch of snobbish jackasses, those AMC execs.

The Walking Dead albums didn't sell because we were all expecting them to release a score, not a song CD. If i wanted the songs, I'd go on iTunes and look for them. We all purposefully thumbed our noses at the song albums because they were not what we were expecting from them, and not what we were interested in. Caprica took a while to get an album too, but for a completely different reason - it was a cancelled TV show that NBCUniversal had absolutely no business reasons aside from interest in the music for releasing the album for a dead show. (I kind of wonder if The Cape soundtrack album did not sell well for them and that influenced their decision)

BTW so far as the music being unmemorable, that's I think just the nature of the show. It is very sparsely scored only in significant moments, but it has amassed a very nice collection of music which I think you would be surprised at how good it is if it was separated from the show. In addition to the S2 scene you referred to, there was also some awesome action music during the whole barn battle during pretty much the entire episode at the end of S2.

Bear has made it clear the only way we will see an album is if we all continue to relentlessly hound AMC.

 
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