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I just ordered the subscription series, but was never allowed to put in the founder's code. When I tried to get into my account, there was an error message. I thought you guys worked this thing out. What do I do now? How do I get back into my account to cancel the order?
Peter
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Ok, I'm in.
The Founders code you are being given is only active through May 21st, and can only be used for the LP to CD series.
Ok, I'm really stupid when it comes to these things... This means up to AND INCLUDING May 21st, correct?
I can't order until that day.
Yes you can order on May 21st and be JUST FINE!
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I just ordered the subscription series, but was never allowed to put in the founder's code. When I tried to get into my account, there was an error message. I thought you guys worked this thing out. What do I do now? How do I get back into my account to cancel the order?
Peter
Please send a note about all of this to orders @varesesarabande.com. Before sending an email remove the SPACE in between the word ORDERS and the @ sign!
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YOu know, dear boy, I'd have to ask why you're dragging us into this? Oh, never mind. We're not "charging" money for air - in fact, we're not "charging" money at all. Oh, but that would be obvious, wouldn't it. There are perks in which, for the money you give, you GET things - so in that sense you can think of it as purchasing CDs in advance at a considerable savings. I'm not seeing the "air" there, but that's just me. Some nice folks who have given up to $500 don't want the perks - they just like us and what we do. Radical, but there you are. Desperation is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
Whether one likes or dislikes, cares or cares not for the Varese idea is the subject of THIS thread. So, by dragging another company into this discussion one could take the position that desperation comes in all forms. Yes, one could take that position.
Sorry Bruce. I think it's my fault that you got dragged into this. I made a post here a couple days ago bringing up the Kritzerland Indiegogo as a price comparison. (I was bringing you up favorably, however, because you allow people to opt-out of titles they aren't interested in, just as the FSM Subscriber Club did. Of course you also said people could just pick the reward/perk titles from the big Kritzerland back catalogue as well, so even more clearly a choice.)
Yavar
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YOu know, dear boy, I'd have to ask why you're dragging us into this? Oh, never mind. We're not "charging" money for air - in fact, we're not "charging" money at all. Oh, but that would be obvious, wouldn't it. There are perks in which, for the money you give, you GET things - so in that sense you can think of it as purchasing CDs in advance at a considerable savings. I'm not seeing the "air" there, but that's just me. Some nice folks who have given up to $500 don't want the perks - they just like us and what we do. Radical, but there you are. Desperation is in the eye of the beholder, I suppose.
Whether one likes or dislikes, cares or cares not for the Varese idea is the subject of THIS thread. So, by dragging another company into this discussion one could take the position that desperation comes in all forms. Yes, one could take that position.
Sorry Bruce. I think it's my fault that you got dragged into this. I made a post here a couple days ago bringing up the Kritzerland Indiegogo as a price comparison. (I was bringing you up favorably, however, because you allow people to opt-out of titles they aren't interested in, just as the FSM Subscriber Club did. Of course you also said people could just pick the reward/perk titles from the big Kritzerland back catalogue as well, so even more clearly a choice.)
Yavar
It absolutely was NOT you - you've been great the entire time about what we're doing. Spymaster doesn't like us and it was only a question of time and place as to where he would try to do this.
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May 17, 2015 - 11:01 PM
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SchiffyM
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The problem is, it takes much money to stay positive and cheer-welcome every single release. Most members here have budget constraints, thus the critisism.
See, I don't really get this. I have budget constraints, too. But because I can't buy something doesn't mean I have to condemn it. I mean, I'd like a Tesla, but I can't afford that either. That doesn't mean I object to the existence of Teslas.
Reading the comments on this thread, the customer's vibe is that it's a perfect idea to release the disks but they should have been available seperately
Customers (of which I am one) would like a great many things, but that doesn't mean we can get them. It seems pretty clear to me that the financial viability of this project required an approach like this. Assuming that list is right (and it likely is close), they are mostly scores for forgotten films by composers who are not exactly household names, even in our households. Sure, customers would like an à la carte approach, but that seems like financial suicide here. There are no more than a handful of fans for most of these scores individually, but collectively, there just might be enough fans of several of them, and of this box as a whole, that they'll subscribe.
If not, it's Varèse's loss. But I can't imagine it could be a bigger loss than releasing "Ediths Tagebuch" and "Three For The Road" on their own and hoping they'd each sell more than thirty copies.
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The problem is, it takes much money to stay positive and cheer-welcome every single release. Most members here have budget constraints, thus the critisism. Personally speaking, were I rich, I would subscribe immediately. Just for the fun of it! And for that box!
Reading the comments on this thread, the customer's vibe is that it's a perfect idea to release the disks but they should have been available seperately as it's furstrating blind-buy so many scores and also pay shipping on a monthly basis (not everyone lives in the US). Just as the vibe for the 1985 set was to release just the first disk. Listening to customers is a good strategy because they are the ones that pay keeping Varese in business and I strongly believe that noone here wants this historic label shut down. That said I'll wish them again good luck on this.
let me ask you a question, since you along with many of us myself included have budget restraints, what if they DID release this all at once and you liked 10 or 11 of the 12 titles and the asking price was $140 plus shipping. Would you have that amount to pay for immediately?
I thought the reason for doing it per month is to help us who have budget worries myself included so that we don't have to cough up $140 or whatever the price would have been if they sold it all together in one big lump sum.
Also, do people ask LLL or Intrada if they can just release all their scores once a month so we can save on shipping? Has anyone ever asked Intrada or LalAland if instead of ordering 2-3 times a month of when they have new releases just hold onto them and ship everyone every month so I don't have to pay shipping 2-3 times? plus these varese discs are $10 plus shipping, that's $10 less for everyone no matter how you slice the pie. most limited editions are $20 plus tax and shipping which for our foreign friends that would be about $30.
I'm with you, I do NOT want this label shut down and love what they bring us. So we don't buy every release, that is just fine. unless I can find that money tree, I'm having to choose my CD's wisely.
I do not have the funds to pay for this all at once so thank the heavens above they've done this per month thing.
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I thought the reason for doing it per month is to help us who have budget worries myself included so that we don't have to cough up $140 or whatever the price would have been if they sold it all together in one big lump sum.
If that's the sole reason, then it wouldn't hurt them to offer an option to pay everything up front, and receive it all together in a package at the end of the subscription year.
Speaking as someone who does have the money to pay up front, I still have budget concerns the same as anyone else. However, I tend to think of my budget over the span of a year or so, rather than week to week or month to month. And as I mentioned in my previous post about the shipping issue, when thought of in the longer term, Varese's current plan has all of us (but international customers in particular) paying far more in shipping than we otherwise would for 12 discs.
For me in Canada, the difference probably amounts to $75-$80 unnecessarily spent on shipping for the month-to-month plan, depending on how much it would cost to ship the discs and carrying case in a package together. For comparison's sake, LLL can ship the Trek:TOS set to Canada for $15, so I'm guessing the Varese carying case loaded with all 12 albums might be in the $20 range for USPS First-Class parcel).
I don't know about anyone else, but I'd rather use that $75-$80 somewhere else.
Also, do people ask LLL or Intrada if they can just release all their scores once a month so we can save on shipping? Has anyone ever asked Intrada or LalAland if instead of ordering 2-3 times a month of when they have new releases just hold onto them and ship everyone every month so I don't have to pay shipping 2-3 times? plus these varese discs are $10 plus shipping, that's $10 less for everyone no matter how you slice the pie. most limited editions are $20 plus tax and shipping which for our foreign friends that would be about $30.
Of course not, but Intrada and LLL don't exactly force you to place an order every 2 weeks, either. We're free to wait until the end of the month (or even longer) to place a larger order if we choose. Heck, you can usually save yourself even more money in shipping by just ordering everything from Intrada, since they sell releases from other labels in addition to their own.
Personally, I tend to place very large orders every 3-4 months. The exceptions to that rule are those titles which I really want, and suspect may sell out before the time for my next bulk order comes; but those are few and far in between (IIRC, a couple have been Varese's Die Hard 2 Deluxe Edition and Kritzerland's Poltergeist 2). Also, sometimes I luck out and a potential quick sell-out will be released around the time I wanted to place an order anyway, simplifying matters.
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