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Jul 23, 2017 - 8:18 PM
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In ST:VI (on the Klingon ship), and the evil universe in an Enterprise episode, there's demonstrations of anti-grav deck plating. I dunno if "inertial control" is also a form of anti-grav.
Yeah, I was trying to remember if B9 was equipped with thrusters, but I couldnt firmly recall so I didnt bring it up. Knowing LIS, it's so improbable that it must be true.
I was joking about the Robot having rocket thruster's. I think there's an episode where he's floating in space helplessly just like an un-tethered astronaut.
I could swear there's some implication that he could blast off (maybe I'm thinking of Tom Servo), but that's a good point about that untethered scene - he didnt jet around then. Maybe they mention it later in the series. Btw, that's actually a pretty amazing scene for all it suggests (I say suggest because it's not the best executed scene). The Professor goes out to rescue B9 framed in Sistine Chapel imagery. While he often refers to it as valuable equipment rather than sentient, the scene suggests otherwise. I wonder if fundamentalists have criticized it for being sacrilegious.
One thing I love about "old" sci fi are clunky robots. (all the way up to Star Wars 77) Nowadays with CGI, robots move swiftly, transform, and are basically robotic Swiss army knives who always have the right tool or equipment for the moment. (R2D2 became the all in one droid from Empire on)
I still think slow, clunky robots with limited abilities are cool and effective sci fi props.
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Jul 24, 2017 - 10:07 AM
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jackfu
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In ST:VI (on the Klingon ship), and the evil universe in an Enterprise episode, there's demonstrations of anti-grav deck plating. I dunno if "inertial control" is also a form of anti-grav.
Yeah, I was trying to remember if B9 was equipped with thrusters, but I couldnt firmly recall so I didnt bring it up. Knowing LIS, it's so improbable that it must be true.
I was joking about the Robot having rocket thruster's. I think there's an episode where he's floating in space helplessly just like an un-tethered astronaut.
I could swear there's some implication that he could blast off (maybe I'm thinking of Tom Servo), but that's a good point about that untethered scene - he didnt jet around then. Maybe they mention it later in the series. Btw, that's actually a pretty amazing scene for all it suggests (I say suggest because it's not the best executed scene). The Professor goes out to rescue B9 framed in Sistine Chapel imagery. While he often refers to it as valuable equipment rather than sentient, the scene suggests otherwise. I wonder if fundamentalists have criticized it for being sacrilegious.
Don't know if fundamentalists criticized it, haven't read of any that did. I wonder if atheists criticized it for having Sistine Chapel imagery religious overtones.
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That was the things about The Undiscovered Country -- it was meant to sort parallel the real life fall of the USSR and things changing.
Best I can tell, Romulous is an equivalent of China.
Cardassians, based upon the occupation of Bajor and crimes committed, were probably loosely connected to National Socialist Part (Nazi's) Germany.
I think others alien races are simply just filler.
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Jul 27, 2017 - 9:41 AM
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Jim Phelps wrote: Apologies, old sport. I meant in an allegorical sense. I'm pretty sure the Klingons were supposed to be the Soviet Union.
Maybe, maybe not. That's the thing about allegories. The Soviet Union was the big opponent of the west during the Cold War. So while your answer is not wrong, I don't feel there is a 1:1 relationship with the different opponents in the series. "Balance of Terror" is The Enemy Below set in space, but that doesn't make the Romulans the Nazis in that episode, or any other.
You might argue a good case with episodes like "A Private Little War" in which Kirk even mentions Korea and Vietnam indirectly. However, trying to nail down an allegory so firmly does an injustice to the message being conveyed.
Still, nothing beats a Canadian actor reading the Preamble of the US Constitution ("The Omega Glory") with such flair.
As I've stated before: Shakespeare sounds best in the original Shatner. 
"Balance of Terror" is fairly early in the series, is it not? A chunk of the audience watching ST circa 1966-67 would have lived through WWII though I suppose anyone watching would have recognized the submarine duel parallel. Perhaps the Klingons-as-Soviets emerged later, or the allegory itself is a nebulous thing in that it serves whatever point about the 1960s geopolitical situation it is trying to make at any given time.
As often as the Romulans appeared in the post-TOS era, I always felt they were under utilized and that a lot more could have been done with them and that the Cardassians (tee hee!) took away valuable screen time that should have belonged to the Romulans. I see the Romulans as a stand in for Red China. Perhaps nowadays some viewers might see them as North Korea to Vulcan's South Korea.
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Which alien opponent they used from week to week may have depended on the budget for pointed ears and the like. (Klingons didn't have bumpy foreheads back then.)
Until "Enterprise" decided they did. A sin "Star Trek: Discovery" is repeating.
Even the Deep Space Nine episode "Trials and Tribbulations" had the decency to allow Klingons to be shown in the old TOS footage as they were and give us at least a throw away line from Worf when asked about it (by O'Brien, I think): "We do not speak about it with outsiders."
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But only if all phasers are replaced with hand communicators.
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