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 Posted:   Nov 12, 2004 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   cinemel1   (Member)

How can one forget Scarlett O'hara's defiant
statement "I'll never be hungry again!" at
the end of Act I of Gone with the Wind. Max Steiner's magnificent Tara's Theme plays as
the camera pulls back on the silhouette of Scarlett against the flaming sunset.

The first time I saw GWTW I was 12 years old.
My friend and I thought the movie was over since there was no intermission card as I recall. The ticket taker told us that the second half of the film would begin in a few
minutes. If he hadn't said anything we would have gone home. This was not a reserved seat attraction. It was at a neighborhood theater and only about 15 years after GWTW's first release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2004 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   GMP   (Member)

How about the car crash at the end of the first part of "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang". As the car races after the zepplin it drives right off a cliff, and looks to be crashing into the rocks below, just as it is about to hit bottom the words intermssion splatter on the screen. Pretty clever also.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2004 - 8:38 PM   
 By:   Lester Sullivan   (Member)

"2001" ran road show style in my town through the magnificence that was Cinerama. What overpowering sights the movie presented as mammoth spaceships (in actuality, models, of course) trekked across the gigantic and deeply curved Cinerama screen! For a great cliffhanger, how about the scene just before the intermission? The two astronauts have finally figured out that there is something terribly, terribly wrong with HAL, the computer on their ship. Fearful that HAL will overhear, they retire to a smaller vessel within the vast ship, where HAL can’t hear them, to plan what to do. They may have to turn off most of the computer's higher functions. As the conversation proceeds, there is a sudden cut to alternating close-ups in vignette of each man’s mouth moving in speech, but in silence, first one, then the other, then the first, back to the other, and so on; HAL is reading their lips. Lights up! No popcorn or candy for me, frozen in place in dread of what was to happen next.

 
 Posted:   Nov 12, 2004 - 11:20 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)


I guess my favorite three have already been mentioned....... "Doctor Zhivago", "Gone With the Wind" and "Mad,Mad,World" - with Zhivago being (perhaps) the most strikingly effective.

Of course, the score had a lot to do with making the Intermission/End of Act:1 so memorable.

On this level, (apart from the above), other favorites would be:

"Around the World in 80 Days" .... as Fogg finally leaves British waters, and heads for America, to the thunderous, combined strains of Rule Britannia and Yankee Doodle.


"How the West Was Won" ..... as Greg and Debbie are re-united , while Alfred Newman's glorious score swells and reaches it's magnificent (Act:1) conclusion.


"The Fall of the Roman Empire" ..... after Commodus parades through ancient Rome (probably the most awesome set ever seen in an Epic!),he enters the temple of Jupiter to make his (sly) offering, whilst Dimitri Tiomkin's beautiful horns and timpani take us into the break.

And let's not forget the musicals .... how about:

A zillion extras marching through old New York whilst Babs belts out "Before the Parade Passes By", in "Hello Dolly!". We really need a break after that scene !

Maria running out on the Captain, whilst Irwin Kostal whips up the orchestra to produce a glorious first half conclusion. (My favorite part of the whole score - so,why wasn't it on the expanded CD ?)

There are many more...you name them.

Another important point about the Intermissions in these Epic movies is that they nearly always conveyed an important time lapse in the story, and were planned to do so.

From say, a few hours in "Mad, Mad, World", or,"West Side Story", to many years, as in "El Cid", or "How the West Was Won".

Having a 10 to 15mt. break between the salient scenes makes a great difference to the effectiveness of many of these great movies.

NP. "The Alamo" - Dimitri Tiomkin




 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2004 - 1:27 AM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

Though not planned as the original intermission lead in...SPARTACUS defeating the cohorts of the garrison of Rome and stating that the slave army will smash any Roman army sent against them ..all to the triumphant music of Alex North.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2004 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Paul, you're right about that scene in Spartacus not planned as the lead in. There is alternate scoring that simply comes to a build up but then leads into the next scene.
The original longer roadshow version in New York had the intermission when Spartacus army finally arrives at the sea.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 13, 2004 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)

The original longer roadshow version in New York had the intermission when Spartacus army finally arrives at the sea.

Joe, The intermission as it now stands is the one in the 'original' roadshow version which I did see way back in late 1960. However, the
original intermission break as you describe was shown in June 1960 during the preview stage. The film as now on the DVD and the Rober Harris restoration is exactly the same as
the 196minute (including all music)as shown in its original run. There was a 202 minute version that was previewed and is lost forever as Harris and his crew could not locate any footage. Universal had trashed
every trim, outtake etc back in the 70's. We would have had a much better film if Harris had those scenes..but what can you do. I have one the 'final' revised scripts and its quite interesting. Many of the Charles Laughton scenes whether with John Gavin or Peter Ustinov are gone. Too bad for it clearly shows why Caesar 'betrays' Gracchus and goes to Crassus' side. Two of the scenes depicted in the set of roadshow 11 by 14 photos were cut that were part of the preview 202 minute version but never publically shown. Batiatus and Gracchus dining with Gracchus' women and Caesar and Gracchus walking in the Roman slum.
Many, many scenes were cut and besides the film being shown in flashback, has a short battle map sequence.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2004 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

I knew you guys could be relied upon to come up with some fascinating intermission stories.

I agree on the effectiveness of all, especially HELLO DOLLY, surely one of the most stupendously spectacular scenes in any musical.

And ZHIVAGO was great too. Wonderful introduction to part two with train sounds thundering around the darkened theatre for quite a while then a spot of light which grows bigger and finally hurtling out of the tunnel into a mountain vista.

Here's an obscure one for you.
FINNIAN'S RAINBOW at the end of the 'Great Come And Get It Day' song sequence. Lovely title materialises on the screen and the music continues to a great first half finale.

I do appreciate that a number of films which originally played with an intermission in the UK didn't in the USA. THE WILD BUNCH springs to mind.

With the passing of Howard Keel, can anyone throw any light on THE BIG FISHERMAN a film I seem to remember seeing as a child and finding rather tedious?

I seem to remember reading once that this was Disney's entry into the biblical epic genre but it must have been a pick-up as there aren't any references to it in studio histories. It seems to be a 'lost' film.

What was the score like?

Kind regards to all.

Frank.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 14, 2004 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

Finians Rainbow did have that great rainbow pater lettering that said intermission over the end of the number. That lettering was missing from the pan and scan prints.
The Big fisherman was a pickup film, but it si still owned by Disney. It exists only in a cut version. there was talk a few year ago of restoring it to full length, but I think it would cost too much to do so.
the film is very dull and the score isn't interesting.

One of my favorite Act One endings in a musical is the end of camelot, with all of the knights gathering at the round table, while A.fred Newmans wonderful adaptation of the score is thindering throuth the theater.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2004 - 10:42 PM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

The 1970 remake of JULIUS CAESAR has always been a guilty pleasure of mine.
There ARE some very dodgy performances with Jason Robarts phoning his in during the early part of the film.
The Intermission was very dramatically placed though coming immediately after Heston's brilliantly delivered 'dogs of war' speech.
The frame freezes, the title appears and Michael J Lewis brings the first half to a powerful climax with his Oscar nominated score.
One another point. I understand a DVD release of THE COWBOYS is imminent. Apparently it contains the full Overture and Entract music.
When this great western was generally released in the UK there was no Intermission. Could anyone tell me where it originally occured?

Kind regards,

Frank.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2004 - 11:33 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

The 1970 remake of JULIUS CAESAR has always been a guilty pleasure of mine.
There ARE some very dodgy performances with Jason Robarts phoning his in during the early part of the film.
The Intermission was very dramatically placed though coming immediately after Heston's brilliantly delivered 'dogs of war' speech.
The frame freezes, the title appears and Michael J Lewis brings the first half to a powerful climax with his Oscar nominated score.
One another point. I understand a DVD release of THE COWBOYS is imminent. Apparently it contains the full Overture and Entract music.
When this great western was generally released in the UK there was no Intermission. Could anyone tell me where it originally occured?

Kind regards,

Frank.


Julius Caesar (1970) had no intermission in the USA. I do not believe the running time was much more than 2 hours. Also it was given a genreal release. I recall the movie being quite thread bare in appearance.

The COWBOYS was issued on widescreen laser disc complete with overture and intermission some years ago. Although it was initially considered for roadshow release, a general release was given instead. Prior to the laser release, the only viewers who were treated to the Overture and intermission music were preview audiences. They were removed for the general release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2004 - 11:39 PM   
 By:   paul rossen   (Member)




The COWBOYS was issued on widescreen laser disc complete with overture and intermission some years ago. Although it was initially considered for roadshow release, a general release was given instead. Prior to the laser release, the only viewers who were treated to the Overture and intermission music were preview audiences. They were removed for the general release.



Though I haven't seen it..I believe that The Cowboy's DVD also has the overture and intermission music.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2004 - 12:21 AM   
 By:   ceb   (Member)

Miklos Rozsa takes over.

Or, same actor and composer, The Cid ride to the head of his army and marches off leaving Sophia at the convent, slow fade-out, Intermission.
You get the idea? I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it.

After seeing El Cid I talked a friend and his date into seeing it the next afternoon- seeing him again I ask how he liked it-"loved it!" I said "me too great, very sad at the end", and he said, "yeah leaving his wife at the convent and riding away, guess they never saw each other again!"

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2004 - 1:02 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

"2001" ran road show style in my town through the magnificence that was Cinerama. What overpowering sights the movie presented as mammoth spaceships (in actuality, models, of course) trekked across the gigantic and deeply curved Cinerama screen! For a great cliffhanger, how about the scene just before the intermission? The two astronauts have finally figured out that there is something terribly, terribly wrong with HAL, the computer on their ship. Fearful that HAL will overhear, they retire to a smaller vessel within the vast ship, where HAL can’t hear them, to plan what to do. They may have to turn off most of the computer's higher functions. As the conversation proceeds, there is a sudden cut to alternating close-ups in vignette of each man’s mouth moving in speech, but in silence, first one, then the other, then the first, back to the other, and so on; HAL is reading their lips. Lights up! No popcorn or candy for me, frozen in place in dread of what was to happen next.

Oh man was that creepy!
I remember it as if it was yesterday!
Happily, they kept the intermission when it was revived at the Castro in SF a couple of years back.

Bruce Marshall

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2004 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

Re Julius Casaer,


It WAS a fairly economically budgeted production although the stars must have cost a buck or two. I saw a 35mm 4track magnetic stereo print at a good cinema in Birmingham (UK). As is so often the case, Micheal Lewis score gave it a scale it perhaps didn't have visually. The place was full of school parties during my visit but the movie played quite well.

 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2015 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I am currently reading a delightful book ROADSHOW MUSICALS which focuses on the SOUND OF MUSIC era of bloated,
money losing (in most cases) 60's musicals.
This was the true era of the "studio blockbuster" as everyone was trying to recapture the magic (and huge grosses) of SOM.
bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2015 - 4:29 PM   
 By:   Joe Caps   (Member)

I also have that book. What a great read !!!!
Apparently, all anyone had to say to the studio heads to get these into production was, "I think we have another Sound of Music !!!" It worked.

Two films that used to be roadshow were Quo Vadis and Diary of Anne frank.

Quo vadis had an intermission and Intermission tag, intermission music.
Now the intermission is gone. The current dvds have an Overture that is really the cut out Intermission music

Diary of Anne Frank had Overture, exit music for Act One, Intermission music, and exit music for Act Two.
Fox on all dvd version have cut out Intermission music and exit music for Act One.

George stevens Jr. said his father never wanted them - so to make George Jr. happy Fox cut them so he would do a commentary track for them. Bummer.
They do include the Overture, incorrectly placed. It plays as part of the menu. Then the film starts. But originally the Overture runs into the film and the final measures play over the Fox scope logo.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2015 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I also have that book. What a great read !!!!

So's this thread. Brother!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 22, 2015 - 8:37 PM   
 By:   darklordsauron   (Member)

I really wish they'd show Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut with the roadshow opening and entr'acte. I think it's a modern classic now.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2015 - 3:17 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I also have that book. What a great read !!!!
Apparently, all anyone had to say to the studio heads to get these into production was, "I think we have another Sound of Music !!!" It worked.


One of the best things in the book are the inter-studio memos.
Whenever a film was in big trouble -production wise or artistically-
some hack executive could always be counted on to write the director/studio boss/producer of the latest fiasco that they "have produced a musical masterpiece" that "wlll outperform SOUND OF MUSIC."
YOU HAFTA READ 'EM TO BELIEVE the backscratching bullshit!
lol

 
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