I can't quite catch what he says towards the very end of the video though.
Regarding the Uncharted 3 release, is it worth trying to seek out the other 2 or are most of the theme's & moments covered again in the 3rd?
I ask after failing to discern differences to Nate's Theme over the 3 releases
Well, I haven't heard Uncharted 3 yet, so I can't speak for that, but I can speak for the first two. While you can tell they are written by the same composer, and that they do belong to the same world/characters, Uncharted and Uncharted 2 are very different listening experiences. As the two games take place in different environments, the scores reflect that perfectly. Also, I've found the first score to be a bit more ambient, and the second one more melodic and enjoyable to listen to (not to say that the first one is bad).
Personally, I think they are all worth getting - Drake's Fortune is only available as a digital release, however.
Also, regarding the themes, there are definitely differences there....but I'll be damned if I can describe what they are, lol.
I originally saw 55 DAYS in Washington D.C. in June of 1963. I believe this was originally conceived as a roadshow. Though I have seen Intermission titles on later prints, both on video, and on TCM, the print I saw in 1963 was not a roadshow, though there was a souvenir program available at the candy counter, which I bought, and still have.
FOTRE I saw in its original roadshow presentation, which only lasted a week, at the Nixon Theatre in Pittsburgh, in May of 1964. I also still have the souvenir program to this film.
For those who are interested in such things. copies of the souvenir programs for both of these films turn up on e-bay all the time, and at fairly reasonable prices.
I originally saw 55 DAYS in Washington D.C. in June of 1963. I believe this was originally conceived as a roadshow. Though I have seen Intermission titles on later prints, both on video, and on TCM, the print I saw in 1963 was not a roadshow
Are you saying, John, that the print you saw in 1963 didn't have an Intermission? That seems odd because, unless things were different in America, in the UK when films were given a 35mm general release following their 70mm roadshow engagements, they always retained the Intermission, although the general release versions seldom included the Overture, Entr'acte or Exit music.
I originally saw 55 DAYS in Washington D.C. in June of 1963. I believe this was originally conceived as a roadshow. Though I have seen Intermission titles on later prints, both on video, and on TCM, the print I saw in 1963 was not a roadshow
Are you saying, John, that the print you saw in 1963 didn't have an Intermission? That seems odd because, unless things were different in America, in the UK when films were given a 35mm general release following their 70mm roadshow engagements, they always retained the Intermission, although the general release versions seldom included the Overture, Entr'acte or Exit music.
In the U.S. it was not uncommon to totally strip all roadshow elements from general release prints. When I saw first run 35mm prints of Doctor Zhivago, Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, Ryan's Daughter, and The Cowboys, they were all devoid of the intermission and all extra music. Other roadshow films that I later saw in re-issues also had lost everything (e.g., the early 1970s reissues of Lawrence of Arabia, It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World, 2001: A Space Odyssey, The Greatest Story Ever Told, Gone With the Wind, and Camelot).
Many of the archived 35mm prints that I've seen of roadshow films over the years at the American Film Institute have retained only the overture (e.g., Raintree County, Cleopatra, Is Paris Burning?), but not the intermission or other music. Many 35mm prints shown at the AFI were totally stripped of intermission and extra music, if any (Oklahoma!, Around the World In 80 Days, Far From the Madding Crowd, Battle of the Bulge, A Bridge Too Far), while a few others were complete (Oliver!).
Too right! Every now & again there comes a title that I wouldn't even list on our many wants lists, as what's the point, it's never going to happen, but some times it does. Last year for me it was One-Eyed Jacks & Tobruk, & now 55 Days At Peking, my first La-La Land purchase. Usually these things come in two's & three's for me, so it will be interesting to see what the rest of the year brings.
1. Overture (02:57) 2. Main Title (03:04) 3. “Peking, China, the summer of the year 1900...” * (00:46) 4. Order From A Prime Minister / In The Palace * (01:47) 5. Oriental * (01:21) 6. The Water Wheel Torture * (01:38) 7. A Dead Britis* Missionary * (00:40) 8. Welcome Marines (01:56) 9. Hotel Blanc (02:26) 10. Lewis And Natasha’s First Encounter * (02:21) 11. Prince Tuan * (02:05) 12. Dance At The Britis* Embassy (Mono)* (The Belfry Two-Step) (03:07) Conducted by Herb Taylor 13. The Boxers Entertain* (02:44) 14. Natasha’s Waltz (02:22) 15. Murder Of The German Minister (02:13) 16. Mass Execution * (00:30) 17. An Empress’ Warning * (01:11) 18. Rescued From An Angry Crowd * (01:10) 19. Preparing For Battle * (02:14) 20. Natasha Visits A Chinaman * (01:39) 21. Lewis And Natasha Disagree *+ (01:11) 22. Attack On The French Legation (03:18) 23. Britis* Soldier Wounded * (00:50) 24. On Top Of The Wall * (02:07) 25. All Quiet On The Eastern Front * (Mono) (00:35) 26. Here They Come (Peking First Battle) (02:46) 27. Hospital Scene * (01:05) 28. Moon Fire (05:44)
Disc/Cassette 2
1. Intermission: The Peking Theme (So Little Time) (02:29) D. Tiomkin / P.F. Webster 2. Children’s Corner (01:40) 3. At The Hospital * (01:06) 4. A Message From Admiral Sidney * (01:21) 5. Lewis And Natasha * (03:04) 6. Theresa In Danger * (01:56) 7. Religious Ceremony / Covert Operation * (04:15) 8. Spoiling The Empress’ Party: Explosion Of The Arsenal (02:39) 9. Old Soldiers Never Volunteer * (02:15) 10. Lewis Saves The Boy * (01:49) 11. Necklace For Drugs * (01:15) 12. The Truce Is Over * (01:08) 13. Theresa And Lewis * (01:01) 14. Death Of Natasha+ (02:52) 15. A New Kind Of Weapon * (02:28) 16. Peking Second Battle (00:45) 17. Bad News * (02:18) 18. Attack On The Compound * (01:51) 19. Help Arrives (02:52) 20. The Empress Alone * (01:37) 21. Auld Lang Syne* (Sir Arthur And Lewis Say Goodbye) (00:42) 22. End Title (01:37) 23. Exit Music: The Peking Theme (So Little Time) (02:50) D. Tiomkin / P.F. Webster Vocal: Andy Williams 24. So Little Time* (Mono) EP version (02:15) 25. March* (Mono) EP version (01:56) 26. Natasha* (Mono) EP version (01:57) 27. Theresa* (Mono) EP version (02:06) 28. So Little Time (Mono) Single version (02:16) 29. Moon Fire (Mono) Single version (02:02) * Previously unreleased + Unused in film
1. Overture (02:57) 2. Main Title (03:04) 3. “Peking, China, the summer of the year 1900...” * (00:46) 4. Order From A Prime Minister / In The Palace * (01:47) 5. Oriental * (01:21) 6. The Water Wheel Torture * (01:38) 7. A Dead Britis* Missionary * (00:40) 8. Welcome Marines (01:56) 9. Hotel Blanc (02:26) 10. Lewis And Natasha’s First Encounter * (02:21) 11. Prince Tuan * (02:05) 12. Dance At The Britis* Embassy (Mono)* (The Belfry Two-Step) (03:07) Conducted by Herb Taylor 13. The Boxers Entertain* (02:44) 14. Natasha’s Waltz (02:22) 15. Murder Of The German Minister (02:13) 16. Mass Execution * (00:30) 17. An Empress’ Warning * (01:11) 18. Rescued From An Angry Crowd * (01:10) 19. Preparing For Battle * (02:14) 20. Natasha Visits A Chinaman * (01:39) 21. Lewis And Natasha Disagree *+ (01:11) 22. Attack On The French Legation (03:18) 23. Britis* Soldier Wounded * (00:50) 24. On Top Of The Wall * (02:07) 25. All Quiet On The Eastern Front * (Mono) (00:35) 26. Here They Come (Peking First Battle) (02:46) 27. Hospital Scene * (01:05) 28. Moon Fire (05:44)
Disc/Cassette 2
1. Intermission: The Peking Theme (So Little Time) (02:29) D. Tiomkin / P.F. Webster 2. Children’s Corner (01:40) 3. At The Hospital * (01:06) 4. A Message From Admiral Sidney * (01:21) 5. Lewis And Natasha * (03:04) 6. Theresa In Danger * (01:56) 7. Religious Ceremony / Covert Operation * (04:15) 8. Spoiling The Empress’ Party: Explosion Of The Arsenal (02:39) 9. Old Soldiers Never Volunteer * (02:15) 10. Lewis Saves The Boy * (01:49) 11. Necklace For Drugs * (01:15) 12. The Truce Is Over * (01:08) 13. Theresa And Lewis * (01:01) 14. Death Of Natasha+ (02:52) 15. A New Kind Of Weapon * (02:28) 16. Peking Second Battle (00:45) 17. Bad News * (02:18) 18. Attack On The Compound * (01:51) 19. Help Arrives (02:52) 20. The Empress Alone * (01:37) 21. Auld Lang Syne* (Sir Arthur And Lewis Say Goodbye) (00:42) 22. End Title (01:37) 23. Exit Music: The Peking Theme (So Little Time) (02:50) D. Tiomkin / P.F. Webster Vocal: Andy Williams 24. So Little Time* (Mono) EP version (02:15) 25. March* (Mono) EP version (01:56) 26. Natasha* (Mono) EP version (01:57) 27. Theresa* (Mono) EP version (02:06) 28. So Little Time (Mono) Single version (02:16) 29. Moon Fire (Mono) Single version (02:02) * Previously unreleased + Unused in film
Total Duration: 01:54:09
Chris what a treat so far - perhaps some artwork as well ? Can't wait till tuesday !
I originally saw 55 DAYS in Washington D.C. in June of 1963. I believe this was originally conceived as a roadshow. Though I have seen Intermission titles on later prints, both on video, and on TCM, the print I saw in 1963 was not a roadshow
Are you saying, John, that the print you saw in 1963 didn't have an Intermission? That seems odd because, unless things were different in America, in the UK when films were given a 35mm general release following their 70mm roadshow engagements, they always retained the Intermission, although the general release versions seldom included the Overture, Entr'acte or Exit music.
55 DAYS was not a roadshow in its NYC premiere engagements. Only 2 downtown theaters presented 55 DAYS for many weeks, before "speading wide". However, as mentionwed above, programs were available and initially it may have been considered for roadshow presentation.
24. So Little Time* (Mono) EP version (02:15) 25. March* (Mono) EP version (01:56) 26. Natasha* (Mono) EP version (01:57) 27. Theresa* (Mono) EP version (02:06) 28. So Little Time (Mono) Single version (02:16) 29. Moon Fire (Mono) Single version (02:02)
Six bonus tracks conducted by Tiomkin!
And then there are the three cover versions (from Youtube) that I posted above... and I'll add one more by the Brothers Four:
This will be a most welcome release, to complement Tadlow's FOTRE.
In Seattle, none of the Bronston films (EL CID, 55 DAYS AT PEKING, FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE, CIRCUS WORLD) were exhibited as roadshows. There were no souvenir programs sold with them here, either.
55 DAYS... is indeed great news! WOW!!! All this Tiomkin coming out is timed just right with my increasing interest and admiration of his work! I've always liked DT, but my love of Alex North, Waxman and Goldsmith seemd to overshadow him. Now, it's like I've found something new. And old favorites are appearing, shiny and new, right before my eyes!
Great Work! I couldn't be more pleased!
[. . . but there is one little thing. . .
. . .not a huge thing. . .
. . .we've all talked about it. . .
. . .and wished, and desired, waited and wanted. . .
Where are the #%*$ *%#+ originals for FALL OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE? The new recording is astounding and I love it, I truly do! BUT IT'S NOT THE ORIGINAL.
(Sorry.
I've composed myself now.)
The surfacing of the 55 DAYS AT PEKING recordings ignites the flame of interest (at leaset for me) for FOTRE originals again, as it seems the search for those masters has all but been abandonded. (#%*&@ DuPont! - When they took ownership of the film, they probebly just dumped all of the elements they "owned" in the trash. If they hadn't interfeared, those precious bits and pieces would most likely be with Columbia along with 55 DAYS...) Sigh. . . What are you gonna do?]
Thanks again, though for 55 DAYS AT PEKING! ! ! ! Terrifically exciting ! ! ! ! I can't wait to order mine! ! !
I see the EP tracks are included at the end of Disc 2. The raw tapes for those include an entertaining vocal outburst from an impatient Tiomkin when he gives one of the engineers a hard time between takes. I doubt that will be included here though.
All this Tiomkin talk has me looking at doing a Tiomkin order with SAE. FOTRE is part of the order, which other disc...High Noon, The Champion, D.O.A., Cyrano, etc only room for 1 additional disc in the order with Fall. I hate tight budgets. I already have Tadlow's Guns of Navaroone and all of FSM's Tiomkin releases as well as The Alamo.
High Noon, The Last Train From Gun Hill, The War Wagon, The Unforgiven are all must have.
I originally saw 55 DAYS in Washington D.C. in June of 1963. I believe this was originally conceived as a roadshow. Though I have seen Intermission titles on later prints, both on video, and on TCM, the print I saw in 1963 was not a roadshow
Are you saying, John, that the print you saw in 1963 didn't have an Intermission? That seems odd because, unless things were different in America, in the UK when films were given a 35mm general release following their 70mm roadshow engagements, they always retained the Intermission, although the general release versions seldom included the Overture, Entr'acte or Exit music.
55 DAYS was not a roadshow in its NYC premiere engagements. Only 2 downtown theaters presented 55 DAYS for many weeks, before "speading wide". However, as mentionwed above, programs were available and initially it may have been considered for roadshow presentation.
No, there was no intermission when I first saw it, in what I think was June of 1963, in Washington D.C.
As I pointed out, the souvenir programs for all the Bronston epics have been routinely available on e-bay. Check "Movie Memorabilia," then go to "Programs." You'll have to scroll through hundreds of them. Or, you can simply search for them by title.
Sometimes, they're available as a "Buy It Now" item; sometimes they're for auction. But I've seen all of them there pretty frequently.
I already have Tadlow's Guns of Navaroone and all of FSM's Tiomkin releases as well as The Alamo.
