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 Posted:   Apr 10, 2014 - 7:38 PM   
 By:   McMillan & Husband   (Member)

Can someone tell me why Sugarland Express has not appeared on CD? I believe that's a Williams' score.

Supposedly it's John Williams himself who doesn't want it released. Strictly speaking, he may not have the legal right to prevent a release, but I doubt any label wants to piss off one of the most successful film composers of all time by ignoring his wishes.


Has he ever said why he doesn't want it released? Is it just something as simple as he doesn't think it's any good or what?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 1:35 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

No, I can't remember reading why he doesn't want it out. In fact, I can't remember seeing any quotes where he doesn't want it released it either. I'm beginning to wonder if it's an urban legend.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:48 AM   
 By:   Dr Lenera   (Member)

A.I.
Dracula
Jaws 2

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   barryfan1   (Member)

Count me in for a fully expanded and complete A.I. over and above everything else too!

Of course I wouldn't be averse to Dracula, Earthquake, or Jaws 2 either.

Mike

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Kev McGann   (Member)

If Fiddler On The Roof has much more of that fantastic music that was added to the Anniversary Edition (talk about teasing us) I would welcome a complete edition of that one.
I've never seen the film all the way through, so I don't know how much score there is.
If it's akin to Goodbye Mr Chips and Tom Sawyer, I'm all for it. Give it to me NOW!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

No, I can't remember reading why he doesn't want it out. In fact, I can't remember seeing any quotes where he doesn't want it released it either. I'm beginning to wonder if it's an urban legend.

it is not Thor, as stated by Roger Feigelson of Intrada here :

http://www.underscores.fr/index.php/2009/04/interviews-roger-feigelson-vo/

 
 Posted:   Apr 11, 2014 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Sorry but I couldn't limit myself to 5 for the Goldsmith thread so I certainly can't limit myself to 1 here. In chronological order here are the released scores that I want expanded to complete length:
1. Diamond Head
2. The Reivers
3. Jane Eyre (prob. My favorite Williams score. Original tapes are lost so would have to be re-recorded unless they're found somehow.)
4. The Cowboys
5. Jaws 2 (I really want a definitive box set with all four scores and unique album recordings complete and remastered!)
6. Dracula (sadly may be in the same boat as Jane Eyre)
7. Monsignor (same thing?)
8. The Witches of Eastwick
9. Empire of the Sun
10. Born on the Fourth of July
11. The Lost World
12. Angela's Ashes
13. A.I.
14. Minority Report
15. Tin Tin

Oh yeah, and Star Wars, Indiana Jones, and Harry Potter 1-3 done right!

Of course, for scores where the original tracks haven't been released, they can't be "expanded" but I thought they deserved to be mentioned here anyway:
1. The Rare Breed
2. The Plainsman
3. Story of a Woman
4. Screaming Woman
5. Sugarland Express

Most of those are Universal so Intrada would be our best hope.
If original tracks don't survive for any of those, if certainly be up for re-recordings...

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 2:36 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I’m a bit like Thor when it comes to this ‘expanded/C&C’ mantra that so prevails on this board, and I don’t deny you guys your wishlists, but isn’t Williams fairly well represented on disc as it is? Most of his scores already have pretty acceptable releases, sure they may not be complete but they are fine albums to listen to. What’s wrong with the existing ‘AI’ or ‘The Lost World’ or ‘Angela’s Ashes’’ for example? They are all lengthy enough releases, with I imagine the majority of the main themes and cues on there. I may well be in the minority, but I can’t be alone thinking there’s a lot of Williams out there already.

In saying all that, I DID buy the expanded ‘1941’wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 2:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

No, I can't remember reading why he doesn't want it out. In fact, I can't remember seeing any quotes where he doesn't want it released it either. I'm beginning to wonder if it's an urban legend.

it is not Thor, as stated by Roger Feigelson of Intrada here :

http://www.underscores.fr/index.php/2009/04/interviews-roger-feigelson-vo/


I know about that, but it's an indirect quote. No reason not to trust Roger, of course, but I'd like to read a direct quote by Williams at some point, with the exact wording of why. Otherwise, I count it as unconfirmed.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I’m a bit like Thor when it comes to this ‘expanded/C&C’ mantra that so prevails on this board, and I don’t deny you guys your wishlists, but isn’t Williams fairly well represented on disc as it is? Most of his scores already have pretty acceptable releases, sure they may not be complete but they are fine albums to listen to. What’s wrong with the existing ‘AI’ or ‘The Lost World’ or ‘Angela’s Ashes’’ for example? They are all lengthy enough releases, with I imagine the majority of the main themes and cues on there. I may well be in the minority, but I can’t be alone thinking there’s a lot of Williams out there already.

Yes, there is a lot out there, and he's certainly better represented than many other composers who've been at it for more than 60 years. However, there is still a LOT left completely unreleased. Click the thread I linked to above for a list (especially the TV stuff, with hundreds of unreleased episodes).

Glad to see an agreeing minority voice on the C&C issue! smile

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Would really like to see a C&C of JFK someday.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 7:23 PM   
 By:   jediking12   (Member)

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone
Star Wars Episode II Attack of the Clones
Star Wars Episode III Revenge of the Sith

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 7:40 PM   
 By:   captain_avis   (Member)

Born on the Fourth of July

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 8:18 PM   
 By:   Ryan24   (Member)

Please Re-release Indiana Jones Trilogy expanded edition, Star Wars Episode II & III, and
Jurassic Park & The Lost World Jurassic Park Expanded Edition!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   chromaparadise   (Member)

1. JFK (if there's anything missing)
2. EARTHQUAKE
3. SW III: REVENGE OF THE SITH
4. RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK (whole and complete)
5. JAWS (complete from the original sessions)

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 9:41 PM   
 By:   Loren   (Member)

I'll be conventional in this poll: EIGER SANCTION, JAWS 2 & DRACULA

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 10:25 PM   
 By:   Great Escape   (Member)

The Cowboys. It's a personal favorite.

Oh yeah. Definitely.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2014 - 11:43 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

The Patriot

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 4:53 AM   
 By:   Jim Doherty   (Member)

To Ron and whoever else said "AI," I'm right with you: That was a score in which Williams really went far beyond himself. He really seemed to make a turn and deliver something new and different. By that I mean to say that he really delivered something that was far more than what Williams followers would expect. I don't quite know what it was that inspired him to write such a heartfelt and soul-touching score (I don't particularly like this film, but I DO think Williams' score is easily one of his best), but I wish everyone could have a complete version of it. I was lucky enough to find, many years ago, a "For Your Consideration" 2-CD set for a mere $5.99 in a used record store. It has given me endless enjoyment. I hope that, one day, everyone can experience that same joy of this landmark (and I will say, almost a COMEBACK) score through some new complete CD release.

A.I. is a truly standout score in Williams' body of works; it should rank right up there with his well-known classics, if not above some of them, but it will probably fall short because of the film's rather negative reception. I'm particularly sorry about that in this case.

I'm sure we have all reached a point with one of our favorite composers where we say, "Oh my, there he goes again, using that same chord structure once, or that particular melodic line, or... (you fill in the blank). Quite a few scores before A.I., I had reached that point with Mr. Williams, but A.I. made me stand up and take notice once again.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2014 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   djintrepid   (Member)

I'll be conventional in this poll: EIGER SANCTION, JAWS 2 & DRACULA

I like your conventionality.

 
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