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 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

Don't listen to the naysayers, Mr. Bond. This is the only way for it to be done because it's the best.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   Lee S   (Member)

Indeed, Mr. Bond. Your diligence and desire for completeness has yielded what promises to be the most important Star Trek release since The Cage was rediscovered. Thank you for your efforts to make sure this project is done the right way.

(I still want to see the cue sheets, though.)

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

There was a statement made earlier too that someone wished we'd have left off all the unused music from the set. Okayyyyy...so you don't want more music from "Amok Time"? You don't want to hear what happened when someone said to a composer, "write some music for this new series we're making, Star Trek. We don't how we're gonna use it yet, but just come up with something." If you're offended by that idea, I guess I can understand not wanting to hear it...in some insane bizarro universe maybe. The fact is leaving all that music off would not have reduced the cost of the set or the number of CDs. What's incredible about this set is I don't think any other TV series has had ALL its music catalogued in one release like this. This is an unprecedented look into the process of how television music was done in the 1960s, and for one of the most influential television programs ever made. So sue us if we wanted to include everything... smile

I just like to relive the show. Listening to music that I've never heard will be jarring, and hearing the scoring in the clear isn't the way I remember it. What I would like is if, instead of music-only tracks, this set had video of the show itself, with the music playing at the appropriate moments, with dialogue and sound effects laid over it as they were used on the show. That would be a great way to enjoy this music as I have loved it all these years. If only!

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   Josh Mitchell   (Member)

Because it's an interesting extra and since this will be the definitive release for TOS, what other opportunities would there ever be to release the main title rerecording?

Jeff, I think you misread Other Tallguy's post.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

What I would like is if, instead of music-only tracks, this set had video of the show itself, with the music playing at the appropriate moments, with dialogue and sound effects laid over it as they were used on the show.


(Assuming that isn't sarcasm), if you've already got the old GNP Star Trek sound effects CD, you will now have all the resources you need to create your own such music & effects tracks yourself.

The idea of a Trekkie/Trekker who isn't also a C&C completist is kind of hard for me to swallow, although "it takes all kinds," and we're all entitled to our opinions and all that.

It was supposed to be Star Wars devotees like Thor who prefer CDs that make "a pleasant listening experience," wasn't it? wink

I'm as glad to have every note recorded for even potential use in Star Trek as I am to have every track recorded for "Ben Hur" and "Mutiny on the Bounty."

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 6:40 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)


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I just like to relive the show. Listening to music that I've never heard will be jarring, and hearing the scoring in the clear isn't the way I remember it. What I would like is if, instead of music-only tracks, this set had video of the show itself, with the music playing at the appropriate moments, with dialogue and sound effects laid over it as they were used on the show. That would be a great way to enjoy this music as I have loved it all these years. If only!
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I wish there was a way where instead of that, we could somehow relive the images that we associate with the music so that the sound effects are in context. Maybe we could store it on some kind of medium, maybe the size of a CD. It would be digital. But it would also be video, all on that disc. Maybe we'll call it "DVD".

wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 6:57 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 7:09 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Maybe we could store it on some kind of medium, maybe the size of a CD. It would be digital. But it would also be video, all on that disc. Maybe we'll call it "DVD".wink




We have something like that in the future.



We call them . . . "tapes."

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Is it just me, or is he wearing a salted pretzelon his chest?

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 8:06 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

(Assuming that isn't sarcasm), if you've already got the old GNP Star Trek sound effects CD, you will now have all the resources you need to create your own such music & effects tracks yourself.

As we all know, the best jokes are the jokes you have to explain. And I was joking. It seems that those who only want the music as used in the show are trying to recreate the show in their brains, so I was taking that to the next logical step. I was describing the miracle of DVDs.

 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2012 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Is it just me, or is he wearing a salted pretzelon his chest?


I thought it came out of the Royal Dansk Starfleet Insignia Butter Cookie gift tin . . .

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Is it just me, or is he wearing a salted pretzelon his chest?

I thought it came out of the Royal Dansk Starfleet Insignia Butter Cookie gift tin . . .


the edible insignia was part of an intentional plan to distinguish people within society; a dry cookie is for "squares" while more laid back folk have an organic garnish such as an egg (nature's perfect food). In this case, what might be a "deviled" egg has an added meaning:



Is there a list of the episodes that will be represented in their entirety?
I hope the music will be as heard in the episode, unlike some Crescendo cd cues which were different or not edited correctly, such as "Where No Man" and "Doomsday Machine".

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I'd assume the "composer's intentions" would be preserved, or that an attempt would be made to present cues as they were heard when first recorded, instead of how they wound up sounding on-air after editing.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'd assume the "composer's intentions" would be preserved, or that an attempt would be made to present cues as they were heard when first recorded, instead of how they wound up sounding on-air after editing.

I thought Jeff, etc. had commented about it somewhere. I wouldnt assume anything at this point.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

I'm really just going by what our favorite labels have been doing with other important historical releases which have been restored from the original recording sessions. The helicopter rescue cue in the Superman box, for example, is much longer on CD than what was heard in the edited film, right? It's because that's how the composer recorded it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Everything is presented as recorded; I think there's one example of a combination of cues where we hear the same piece of music twice in the episode and that is duplicated on the CD, because in one case you hear the entire piece of music and in the other it is effectively crossfaded with another cue in something very specific to that episode (and it's the episode the cue was written for). We're not doing a comprehensive list of all the episodes since more than half of the TOS episodes are tracked (and there are innumerable sources for a complete list of TOS episodes), but we do address some specific instances of tracking throughout the notes, particularly the most memorable uses of a number of library cues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Everything is presented as recorded... We're not doing a comprehensive list of all the episodes since more than half of the TOS episodes are tracked (and there are innumerable sources for a complete list of TOS episodes)

Looking back, it was the original announcement that gave me the notion about the music being as heard in the episode-
"a limited edition 15-CD box set, showcasing all episode scores as heard in all three original seasons"

A member mentioned there were 34 composed episodes. If the CD cues are organized by episode, I'm curious which 34 titles these are. Were.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Balcan   (Member)

@Last Child, hello. I would need to contact you. Can you give me an e-mail please?

Thanks

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Balcan, I added an email addy to the bottom of my profile page. If this is in regards to an episode list, you could probably post it here.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2012 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Sigerson Holmes   (Member)

Here's my own post in this very thread, from about a month ago.


Posted: Aug 12, 2012 - 5:20 AM
By: Sigerson Holmes (Member)

. . . I mean according to wiki (yes, it's not very reliable source) only 31 episode from 79 had original score and other music was tracked from other episodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Original_Series#Music). Is it true, or we need correct this page?


Thirty-one complete scores is actually about right, if one acknowledges that an additional four episodes which also had original underscoring were "partial" scores -- in other words, mostly tracked from other episodes with only a little original music newly recorded for them. In his "Music of Star Trek" book, however, Jeff notes that even episodes with "complete" scores often had a tracked cue or two in them as well. I've indicated which could be considered partial scores below:

Pilots
The Cage (Courage)
Where No Man Has Gone Before (Courage)

First Season
The Man Trap (Courage)
Charlie X (Steiner)
The Naked Time (Courage)
Mudd’s Women (Steiner)
The Enemy Within (Kaplan)
The Corbomite Maneuver (Steiner)
Balance Of Terror (Steiner)
What Are Little Girls Made Of? (Steiner)
The Conscience Of The King (Mullendore)
Shore Leave (Fried)
The City On The Edge Of Forever (Steiner) [partial]

Second Season
Catspaw (Fried)
Metamorphosis (Duning)
Friday’s Child (Fried)
Who Mourns For Adonais? (Steiner)
Amok Time (Fried)
The Doomsday Machine (Kaplan)
Mirror, Mirror (Steiner)
I, Mudd (Matlovsky)
The Trouble With Tribbles (Fielding)
By Any Other Name (Steiner)
Omega Glory (Steiner) [partial]
Return To Tomorrow (Duning) [partial]
Patterns Of Force (Duning) [partial]

Third Season
Spectre Of The Gun (Fielding)
Elaan Of Troyius (Steiner)
The Paradise Syndrome (Fried)
The Enterprise Incident (Courage)
And The Children Shall Lead (Duning)
Spock’s Brain (Steiner)
Is There In Truth No Beauty (Duning)
The Empath (Duning)
Plato’s Stepchildren (Courage)

 
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