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As the last 3 tracks on the CD consist of the ROGUE ONE End Titles (including some JW snippets) in separate cue format, can anyone tell me why they didn't just include the whole SW End Credit thing from the film, including the Finale/Credits swipe/transition and the other JW bits that are there?
Probably saving it as a selling point for the expanded edition.
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Probably one of these options:
? They had to pay additional fees to use the theme, and didn't want to (money)
? It's a different recording, with a different orchestra and couldn't include it (rights)
? Giacchino (or someone else) didn't want the themes to be presented that way (artistic)
I'd be disappointed if it turned out to be simply a money issue. This is a franchise that literally prints money.
The finale as heard in the movie is freaking awesome. I hope it sees the light of day at some point.
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Dec 30, 2016 - 10:56 AM
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As the last 3 tracks on the CD consist of the ROGUE ONE End Titles (including some JW snippets) in separate cue format, can anyone tell me why they didn't just include the whole SW End Credit thing from the film, including the Finale/Credits swipe/transition and the other JW bits that are there?
Actually, I have seen the film twice and enjoyed it both times.
I have found this discussion very enlightening and thank you all for it. One thing that does perplex me though is track 18, Hope, specifically the use of the tenor of the choir. As I have read others say, the presence of Vader at the end was stupendous but misleading because of the music IMO. When he is letting loose the Force we have a Soprano? choir rather than, as in TROTJ, Baritone voices when fighting Luke?
One view is that the music almost had a 'heroic' quality to it where Vader was concerned?
I have alternative views of course, so perhaps others can set me straight....
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I saw Rogue One for the third time today. The first time was sensory overload, the second time was to catch stuff I missed the first time, and this time was to just sit back and let it wash over me. I give it an easy A+. It adds so much depth and gravitas to the overall saga---I can hardly believe how they pulled this off. The characters are fleshed out as fully as they need to be, and the performances are spot-on. What a smarmy villain Krennic is, craving the emperor's approval above all else. So hiss-worthy. As I've said earlier, and I believe it even more now, I think Rogue One needs a "promotion" to full-fledged saga-member status with its own opening fanfare and crawl. It's bound for 'classic' status.
And the music. Like a lot of you, I was prepared for generic wallpaper from Michael Giacchino, whose music I simply haven't been able to connect with enough to make many of his scores "must-haves." But Rogue One has grown on me to the point where I consider it on par with Williams' music (acknowledging, of course, that Williams blazed the trail and will always be on the higher pedestal).
The music is well-spotted and orchestrated in the film. It supports the action capably, propelling the battle scenes and heightening the emotional scenes. I got teary-eyed more the third time around, and for that I can thank Jyn's theme, the hope theme, and the whills theme. They are simply beautiful. Oh, and that "Rogue One" fugue---that does NOT sound like it came from someone on a super-tight deadline. Really complex.
And those two imperial themes are so militaristic and evil. Perfect additions to the villains' canon. I LOVE bum-bum-ba-da-bumping that Imperial suite to myself. So much fun. But even the non-showpiece incidental music is memorable and more intricate than I expected.
This is a full-blooded, full-throated, full-bore Star Wars score of surprising complexity and it's been really enjoyable absorbing it the way I have Williams' scores. Giacchino had a seemingly impossible task, and boy did he deliver.
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I'm catching more and more references to the Original Trilogy scores the more I see the movie & listen to the score.
For instance, anyone catch a couple blatant quotes of Williams' theme from ANH, and I'm not sure what exactly you'd call it, but it's a quote of basically a D D D - D F F D F F (Eb F trill) D in "Krennic's Aspirations" (the Krennic Vader scene).
Also the beginning of Star-Dust sounds eerily like a callback to The Hologram from ANH.
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What disappointed me the most with this release is it didn't have the full End Credits. Since when does the soundtrack of a lice-action Star Wars movie NOT have the full credits???
The end credits of The Force Awakens was a different edit than what appeared in theaters. So I guess that would count, kind of.
It is very possible given the post-production crunch on this film that the final configuration of the end credits (which were achieved editorially) was not finalized by the time that the album needed to be pressed.
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would be able to recreate the edits of the old JW sections and the new MG bits into the unified whole that it is.
