I know I'm in the minority here. But why does EVERYTHING need to be expanded and complete. Honestly.
Indeed. I would prefer releases of scores that have never been before available over 'expanded/complete' releases that the majority already have of a favourite composer.
All right then, why not participate by telling us what *unreleased* Poledouris scores you'd like to see released? Return to the Blue Lagoon? The War at Home? Celtic Pride? Ned Blessing? Harley Davidson and the Marlboro Man? Does scores with only a few cues released like Summer Lovers count? Does his fantastic Serial Mom score count since it's obscured by dialogue on the official release?
I don't see the point of coming into this thread unless you're actually going to participate *somehow*. Otherwise you're just raining on our parade.
I'm surely in the minority, but I strongly prefer Conan the Destroyer to Barbarian. I can't wait for the former's expansion.
I can *sort of* understand this based on the re-recordings (though I don't know how you get past all the reused music from Barbarian in Destroyer) but when Intrada puts out the original score recording I'll be flabbergasted if you prefer the Destroyer in a significantly more disappointing performance than the original one for Barbarian...
I know I'm in the minority here. But why does EVERYTHING need to be expanded and complete. Honestly.
Indeed. I would prefer releases of scores that have never been before available over 'expanded/complete' releases that the majority already have of a favourite composer.
On WIND, if memory serves the main title music from the film wasn't on the album. Which is a shame since it's a fantastic piece of music featuring that propulsive main theme.
There might be a few incidental cues left off, but otherwise the album is a very good representation of the score. Still, I would absolutely buy an expanded release with that main title cue.
I can *sort of* understand this based on the re-recordings (though I don't know how you get past all the reused music from Barbarian in Destroyer) but when Intrada puts out the original score recording I'll be flabbergasted if you prefer the Destroyer in a significantly more disappointing performance than the original one for Barbarian...
Yavar
Oh, I don't get past the reused music. I just enjoy it, combined with the new material, to a greater degree than Barbarian. I look forward to making comparisons of the originals.
On WIND, if memory serves the main title music from the film wasn't on the album. Which is a shame since it's a fantastic piece of music featuring that propulsive main theme.
There might be a few incidental cues left off, but otherwise the album is a very good representation of the score. Still, I would absolutely buy an expanded release with that main title cue.
Intesting! I thought the album contained the main title. I wonder why BSX didn't expand this one to complete length when they reissued it. I was pretty sure their release of Whale for the Killing *was* complete though so I didn't put it on the list.
And yes, Shock-Wave, I guess Red October *should* be the No. 1 priority in terms of group wants, I just put Les Miserables ahead of it because it's my favorite Poledouris score.
Intesting! I thought the album contained the main title. I wonder why BSX didn't expand this one to complete length when they reissued it.
The BSX/For Life albums start with the Prologue (Modine under the water) and then skip past the main titles to the early love scene between Modine and Grey. It's certainly possible that the music heard over the titles was tracked from elsewhere in the score, but I don't think so. I wish I could find the sequence on Youtube, but alas.
On WIND, if memory serves the main title music from the film wasn't on the album. Which is a shame since it's a fantastic piece of music featuring that propulsive main theme.
There might be a few incidental cues left off, but otherwise the album is a very good representation of the score. Still, I would absolutely buy an expanded release with that main title cue.
Intesting! I thought the album contained the main title. I wonder why BSX didn't expand this one to complete length when they reissued it. I was pretty sure their release of Whale for the Killing *was* complete though so I didn't put it on the list.
And yes, Shock-Wave, I guess Red October *should* be the No. 1 priority in terms of group wants, I just put Les Miserables ahead of it because it's my favorite Poledouris score.
Yavar
I know I am acting like a spoiled kid LOL. Time to take some castor oil.....
If LaLa was able to secure the rights to Newman's THE PHANTOM from Milan perhaps THE JUNGLE BOOK can be secured as well. I see no one has mentioned TINTORERRA, THE TIGER SHARK. It is an admittedly weak score with little of the Poledouris sound we would came to know. The movie itself is a bit of a mess. Ethically confusing, dramatically confusing, sexually confusing, morally confusing. Almost as if someone had home movies of sharks being killed and tried to write a movie around that. The sharks dont play any role in the plot. All the shark stuff could be removed and the plot would be unaffected, weaving and lurching forward like a drunken sailor as it were. ...Unless the two boys are the metaphorical sharks.....I never thought of that. Sexually feeding on women and then each other.
I'd be curious to hear Tintorrera. I neglected to include any Poledouris pre-Big Wednesday because I'd heard that was his first orchestral score. Perhaps he had a small orchestra on some earlier ones? I'd certainly be interested to hear them, so thanks for the info on Tintorrera.
As to The Jungle Book, if indeed there are no rights complications with Disney, I'd love to see LLL give us both that complete as well as the sequel score by John Scott!
Tintorrea is a low-key, mostly electronic score with this annoying nee-nor-nee-nor ... nee-nee-nor electronic sound for the shark. It's more than just a different take of "Jaws", it's terrible.
You could probably skim a couple decent cues from it for a compilation.
I am up for ANY Poledouris and am so happy to see this thread ! I hope these releases (and expansions) happen ! I would also love to see the Poledouris scored WIND get a blu ray release. I love the movie.
Summer Lovers -- a couple cues released on the Warner Bros. Records album...I wonder if LLL might release the complete score to this MGM-owned film?
Sure would be nice. Unless there is a chunk of material written for the film, which didn't make the final cut, there isn't going to be a lot for a full album, but it would fit well in conjunction with another MGM property.
The ideal pairing with Summer Lovers would be Paradise, a similar (and much worse) film scored by Canadian composer Paul Hoffert.
Meh...I'm familiar with PARADISE and Hoffert's score. I don't see much similarity in musical styles or the films themselves--beyond ample nudity and some scenic backgrounds.
PARADISE was, of course, the subject of a lawsuit by Columbia Pictures due to its thematic and narrative similarities to THE BLUE LAGOON, scored by Poledouris and released by Columbia.
Hypothetically, if were able to ignore the ownership / distribution issue for a moment, I would assume that if there is something else in Poledouris' oeuvre that is largely synth-based like SUMMER LOVERS is, that would be a good pairing. Not being intimately familiar with all of Poledouris' work, as many others here are, I don't know what that score (or those scores) would be, off the top of my head.
Seeing as SUMMER LOVERS has something of a New Age feel, unless there's something else that Basil did in that vein (I would love to hear it, if there is), I wouldn't balk at a pairing with a Vangelis, Jean-Michel Jarre, or Tangerine Dream work, if any fit in terms of ownership.
I edited the entry for The Touch above in light of the recent BSX reissue: "The Touch -- Basil's last theatrical film score (and one of his best, IMO). It did get both a CD and more complete DVD release, both with audio problems. I'd love a definitive complete version but as it's a foreign film from a strange production company I question whether any of our beloved specialty labels could revisit it... EDIT: I was wrong! BSX was in fact able to license this wonderful score so we're getting a version with decent liner notes (in English!) as well as improved sound quality (hopefully from original tapes!) Their version has the three brief "bonus tracks" available on the old DVD edition; can anyone confirm that this was in fact the complete score and there is no more music to make this more definitive? If so I'll remove it from this list."
I found the complete film on YouTube but being married I'm not really possessed of the time to watch it. Is anyone else willing to suffer the movie and tell us if there's any remaining score?
Even if there was no more score available to release I'm very grateful for this reissue, especially so that Poledouris fans can actually be able to *afford* his last theatrical score!
I got so used to updating my similar Goldsmith thread but I have to say I'm particularly pleased to finally be able to update this one! Thanks Intrada for The Hunt for Red October complete!
Here's what I'd written last year in the original post: "The Hunt for Red October -- one of Basil's most popular scores and possibly my top want after a complete Les Miserables. The original MCA album had rather poor sound, only half an hour of score, and several cues which differed from the film versions. I suspect from comments Doug has made that this will come out on Intrada, but I guess LLL has an outside chance of doing it (film is Paramount, if anyone was wondering...which as of several years ago no longer means it's impossible)."
Glad to see it finally come out, though it seemed only a matter of time after Intrada put out Clear and Present Danger and LLL put out Patriot Games...I wonder if this franchise was split up like the Trek scores were which would mean that with Intrada tackling the Poledouris score, expanding Goldsmith's Sum of All Fears might be left for LLL in the not too distant future?
