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 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

No plans to revisit LIMITS in the foreseeable future. With Mr. Frontiere's passing it makes it quite difficult to deal with now. He controlled the vertical and horizontal, so to speak. smile

As for Season 2 stuff, I honestly gave up years ago.


Alas on both accounts. I was lucky enough to get a signed copy of your set and wouldn't trade it for all the tea in China.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

No plans to revisit LIMITS in the foreseeable future. With Mr. Frontiere's passing it makes it quite difficult to deal with now. He controlled the vertical and horizontal, so to speak. smile

As for Season 2 stuff, I honestly gave up years ago.

MV


For Stoney or OL, are there music-only stems? Or "music and effects reels" (Ford Thaxton's words for OL Seas.1)?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Doubtful. I mean we can't even get the music of a certain other (and far better) anthology show reissued on cd and it's been on Blu for close to ten years!

Far better???? Highly unlikely. smile


Show me a legitimate list of greatest television where The Outer Limits appears and is higher than The Twilight Zone then.

Oh wait...you can't.


I believe the United Nations voted and compiled a list putting The Outer Limits at number one. Can't argue with that.


Highly unlikely. A hard line neocon and deep state disciple would never promote a series that has an episode like "Obit". As disappointing as the series generally is, there are some great episodes, and Obit, although typically overly artistically woolly, it is more current than it was back then, and that is very very horrifically bad news. It's also something that neocons would never want you to know. They can't sell unjust wars and other creepy "utopian" projects to people who are critical of the current digital exhibitionism and organisations that are waay to interested in all that.

D.S.

 
 Posted:   Feb 5, 2018 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

No plans to revisit LIMITS in the foreseeable future. With Mr. Frontiere's passing it makes it quite difficult to deal with now. He controlled the vertical and horizontal, so to speak. smile

As for Season 2 stuff, I honestly gave up years ago.

MV


For Stoney or OL, are there music-only stems? Or "music and effects reels" (Ford Thaxton's words for OL Seas.1)?


I seem to recall hearing the old GNP Crescendo set was mastered from the 35mm mag DMEs so yes they exist.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 12:46 AM   
 By:   Rollin Hand   (Member)

No plans to revisit LIMITS in the foreseeable future. With Mr. Frontiere's passing it makes it quite difficult to deal with now. He controlled the vertical and horizontal, so to speak. smile

MV



So to conclude, any new releases by Frontiere is closed. No Stoney Burke release is possible right now.

 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   LordDalek   (Member)

No plans to revisit LIMITS in the foreseeable future. With Mr. Frontiere's passing it makes it quite difficult to deal with now. He controlled the vertical and horizontal, so to speak. smile

MV



So to conclude, any new releases by Frontiere is closed. No Stoney Burke release is possible right now.


Not until the lawyers divi up the estate at the very least. Still doesn't explain how LaLaLand managed to leave off one whole track from the GNP though.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

There are rumours that the Blu-ray set will not have Dominic Frontiere's isolated music tracks which would be such a shame and a wasted opportunity. If true, then let's hope that Season Two will have isolated tracks of Harry Lubins music.

It's not a rumor, and doubtful season two will have any. KINO seems to think commentaries are the big selling point with fans. Cant say it will add much value for old fans, so the biggest bonus feature are optional subtitles. And an episode guide lifted from David Schow's book.


I'm hearing there will be more bonus content on season 2, as it's a much shorter season at 17 episodes.

I'm actually excited by the commentaries from Tim Lucas and David Schow.

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 4:59 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

Show me a legitimate list of greatest television where The Outer Limits appears and is higher than The Twilight Zone then.

Oh wait...you can't.


I can show LordDalek my list.

The Outer Limits has always been my favorite TV series since I first saw it in 1980.

1. The Outer Limits
2. Danger Man
3. Doctor Who
4. Star Trek
5. Thriller
6. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea

See that? The Twilight Zone ranks below The Outer Limits - and it didn't even appear within my favorite half-dozen shows. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

As disappointing as the series generally is, there are some great episodes, and Obit, although typically overly artistically woolly, it is more current than it was back then, and that is very very horrifically bad news.Disco Stu appears to post in threads about The Outer Limits only to chat about how much he doesn't like it.

One of the reasons why The Outer Limits is my favorite seems to be the very trait that Disco Stu criticizes: the 'arty' aspect.

I love Ingmar Bergman films, too. smile

Take that, genre-lovin' & art-hatin' Disco Stu.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 6, 2018 - 6:17 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm actually excited by the commentaries from Tim Lucas and David Schow.
I'm hearing there will be more bonus content on season 2, as it's a much shorter season at 17 episodes.
Greg Espinoza


I might check out commentaries by Reba Wissner who wrote a book about the music, and Gary Gerani author of "Fantastic Television" (and friend of Billy Goldenberg).

KINO announced ONE bonus disc for season two. At minimum it should contain the unused pilot versions of the first episode "Galaxy Being" and "Forms of Things Unknown." Maybe some documentary fluff. I doubt they'll decide to add isolated music to the episodes. If you ask them now, they'll probably let you add a commentary track. They had everyone and their grandmother doing one for season one.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 7, 2018 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   BBoulle   (Member)

Show me a legitimate list of greatest television where The Outer Limits appears and is higher than The Twilight Zone then.

Oh wait...you can't.


I can show LordDalek my list.

The Outer Limits has always been my favorite TV series since I first saw it in 1980.

1. The Outer Limits
2. Danger Man
3. Doctor Who
4. Star Trek
5. Thriller
6. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea

See that? The Twilight Zone ranks below The Outer Limits - and it didn't even appear within my favorite half-dozen shows. smile


The Outer Limits was my 2nd favorite 60's series. Combat was #1. Wish there was a recording of Leonard Rosenman's work in Combat. Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea and Lost in Space were similar in that Irwin Allen started them out as serious science fiction but then concluded with Lost's Tybo the giant carrot played by Stanley Adams.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 1:22 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

If you ask them now, they'll probably let you add a commentary track. They had everyone and their grandmother doing one for season one.

With my luck, I'd get stuck with The Duplicate Man, or Behold, Eck. wink

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 1:25 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

The Outer Limits was my 2nd favorite 60's series. Combat was #1. Wish there was a recording of Leonard Rosenman's work in Combat.

There is. Have you seen this?

http://www4.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/23262/ALEXANDER-THE-GREAT-AND-OTHER-RARE-ROSENMAN/

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I'm not sure that anybody will be interested in this, though Frontiere's cues for "Stoney Burke" are lost, the original sketches that he composed are in storage at the University Of Wyoming.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 4:44 PM   
 By:   BBoulle   (Member)

The Outer Limits was my 2nd favorite 60's series. Combat was #1. Wish there was a recording of Leonard Rosenman's work in Combat.

There is. Have you seen this?

http://www4.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/23262/ALEXANDER-THE-GREAT-AND-OTHER-RARE-ROSENMAN/

Greg Espinoza


Thanks for that link. I'm hoping there is more than 19 minutes of great music from the Combat series. Hey LLL or Intrada. How about a 2-cd set. I'll settle for one. One of the great main title tracks from 60's TV.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 4:46 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm not sure that anybody will be interested in this, though Frontiere's cues for "Stoney Burke" are lost, the original sketches that he composed are in storage at the University Of Wyoming.

I think that means written scores. Regardless, I know they dont have any sessions audio recordings by Frontiere.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 4:49 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

The Outer Limits was my 2nd favorite 60's series. Combat was #1. Wish there was a recording of Leonard Rosenman's work in Combat.

There is. Have you seen this?

http://www4.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/23262/ALEXANDER-THE-GREAT-AND-OTHER-RARE-ROSENMAN/


This has been discussed elsewhere, and this was all available. I'd settle for music stems if they exist. Having first seen the Twilight Zone episode with his COMBAT-like score ("And when the sky opened up"), I always get creeped out watching COMBAT.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 5:09 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

I'm not sure that anybody will be interested in this, though Frontiere's cues for "Stoney Burke" are lost, the original sketches that he composed are in storage at the University Of Wyoming.

I think that means written scores. Regardless, I know they dont have any sessions audio recordings by Frontiere.


Though the existence of the written scores would make an ideal recording by Tadlow.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2018 - 5:30 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm not sure that anybody will be interested in this, though Frontiere's cues for "Stoney Burke" are lost, the original sketches that he composed are in storage at the University Of Wyoming.

I think that means written scores. Regardless, I know they dont have any sessions audio recordings by Frontiere.


Though the existence of the written scores would make an ideal recording by Tadlow.


Hmmm....

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2018 - 4:03 PM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

One piece of music that was NOT heard in "Stoney Burke" was the music heard in the episode "The Hundred Days Of The Dragon" in the climatic party where William Lyons Selby was exposed by his vice president Ted Pearson. That music was previously heard in the feature film "Seven Thieves", scored by Frontiere, though I assume he owned the rights to that music too.

 
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