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 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 4:38 PM   
 By:   Erik Woods   (Member)

Shameless plug time.

You might want to start here with Jason Drury's three-part radio documentary on the man.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/the-life-and-music-of-james-horner-radio-documentary-part-i/

I've also produced a boatload of Horner programming over the past couple of years.

A TRIBUTE TO JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/a-tribute-to-james-horner-1953-2015/

MORE MUSIC OF JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/ep-16-more-music-of-james-horner-part-1/

RE-RECORDING JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/ep-48-re-recording-james-horner/

I hope you find something you like!

Enjoy!

-Erik-

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 4:58 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Just now...?


Really? Being a composer and all and just now?


I've been listening to mostly Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and 20th century serial composition (with a good dose of Rock and Metal) for most of my life.

Film music composers I didn't really know too much about (outside of the obvious Goldsmith and Williams early stuff) until a year and a half ago (my whole fascination began with Man of Steel, believe it or not). Culminating in discovering wonderful composers like Herrmann, Rozsa, Alfred Newman, Waxman.

As far as "discover" threads go; well, gee that's kind of what forums are for? Unless something about me is just sticking in the craw of certain members I can't personally see anything wrong with something like that at all.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 5:01 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Well, at least you found a composer who wasn't very prolific. wink

The Wrath of Khan is a great start. If you feel like wallowing around in that early Horner adventure sound then I highly recommend following up with (surprise!) Star Trek III! It's like Horner got to finish his thought. Enough repetition that they feel of a whole, but really a wonderful amount of new material and a much more emotional score.

Krull is a spiritual (and temporal) cousin to his Star Trek scores.

The Rocketeer is a personal fave of mine. Glory is more than worth your time. I played Searching for Bobby Fischer a lot the week that he died. Sneakers still gets a lot of play from me as does Field of Dreams.

And let's face it: Titanic is probably the score that (metaphorically) sits on his headstone.

Good luck!


I'm ready to wallow lol! Krull is really interesting me now, and I can probably pick that one up without mortgaging this place.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Some reasons why I love Horner's work:

"The Journey of Natty Gann"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ-41YG4Q2U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azTcL9f_jvM


"Willow"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnfFTj85L8E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9H6yUZLQfes


"Something Wicked This Way Comes"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-KuCR1GR4c


"Star Trek III: The Search for Spock"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wxCzcjMk9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ezQKHcnTc8


"Titanic"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra-zp1BwtJ8

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 5:07 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)



As far as "discover" threads go; well, gee that's kind of what forums are for? Unless something about me is just sticking in the craw of certain members I can't personally see anything wrong with something like that at all.




Wagner ... there's someone over on the other non-film music side who's thrown down a gauntlet. Thence the root of bitterness.

I must say, I once knew a well-informed concert pianist and violinist who'd never heard of Miklos Rozsa, Bernard Herrmann, or Korngold. The internet allows people to circle aimlessly in the vortex of their own algorithms, and assume their bubble is all reality. Film music is still a minority interest.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)



As far as "discover" threads go; well, gee that's kind of what forums are for? Unless something about me is just sticking in the craw of certain members I can't personally see anything wrong with something like that at all.


Forums also provide records of previous threads that contain a wealth of information that is related to your postings. Others seem to be able use the old threads to re-start a discussion / debate. You on the other hand just seem to start threads everyday on some new discovery - like a diary entry.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 5:19 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Krull was luckily reissued (a second time) by LLL so it won't cost you a bundle like it used to...

http://lalalandrecords.com/Site/KrullRedux.html

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 6:16 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

This is a very slippery slope....I'll just say this.
Horner is polarizing. He's a favorite of mine, his passing hit me hard. Lots of controversy, so keep an open mind.
Your starting in an interesting phase of his career, which will morph across many styles, if you trace, say, KRULL to COCOON to BRAVEHEART to AVATAR, to toss out some random points of note. He traversed quite a path of ideas over his career. This thread will stir up a lot of....you can guess.
I'd suggest...pick a couple films and go watch 'em. Any of them, he really nailed the language of film IMO. Besides, the records will make more sense lol.
And another vote for KRULL, which is THE definitive benchmark of his early work. I played it Sunday in fact and those 90mins flew by, unlike other marathon score cds of late.
Happy hunting WA!
Sean

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

One of his final scores and one of his finest: WOLF TOTEM

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 6:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Just now...?


Really? Being a composer and all and just now?


I've been listening to mostly Baroque, Classical, Romantic, and 20th century serial composition (with a good dose of Rock and Metal) for most of my life.

Film music composers I didn't really know too much about (outside of the obvious Goldsmith and Williams early stuff) until a year and a half ago (my whole fascination began with Man of Steel, believe it or not). Culminating in discovering wonderful composers like Herrmann, Rozsa, Alfred Newman, Waxman.

As far as "discover" threads go; well, gee that's kind of what forums are for? Unless something about me is just sticking in the craw of certain members I can't personally see anything wrong with something like that at all.



My sis has a MA in music. She studied with Corigliano.
She "never notices" music in films!
Doh!
Brm

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 6:50 PM   
 By:   Illustrator   (Member)

I'm ready to wallow lol! Krull is really interesting me now, and I can probably pick that one up without mortgaging this place.

Given your appreciation for Wagner you will love Krull as it is so wonderfully influenced by W.

It looks like you are about to relive my 1982/83 period when suddenly, in addition to the great scores of Goldsmith with First Blood & Under Fire or Williams with ET, Monsignor & Jedi, we had new blood with Horner, Poledouris and Trevor Jones. The extra beauty for you in many cases is the ability to hear these scores in their expanded or full presentation. Krull was a glorious LP at the time but the complete presentation is even more of a good thing. Between Battle Beyond The Stars/Star Trek, Brainstorm, Gorky Park and Krull there seemed nothing this guy could not do.

Enjoy your voyage of discovery.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

I have a soft spot for 'Glory'; some themes are derivative hommages but it works powerfully as a score.

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 11:18 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Wow. Really. Another day, another film composer to collect.
You shoulda started A to Z dude.


Lol!

 
 Posted:   Jan 23, 2018 - 11:36 PM   
 By:   Adm Naismith   (Member)

Sneakers is sooo seductive.

Man, where's that expansion?

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 3:32 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)



As far as "discover" threads go; well, gee that's kind of what forums are for? Unless something about me is just sticking in the craw of certain members I can't personally see anything wrong with something like that at all.


Forums also provide records of previous threads that contain a wealth of information that is related to your postings. Others seem to be able use the old threads to re-start a discussion / debate. You on the other hand just seem to start threads everyday on some new discovery - like a diary entry.


I think I'll just keep doing what I'm doing, and if there is a legitimate concern (as in a warning from a moderator), I'll take it under serious advisement.

Otherwise I'm going to keep enjoying my discoveries in music, and sometimes sharing them. If someone doesn't like it, that someone might be happier with a new hobby...or forum.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 3:43 AM   
 By:   Brianmcb   (Member)



Otherwise I'm going to keep enjoying my discoveries in music, and sometimes sharing them. If someone doesn't like it, that someone might be happier with a new hobby...or forum.


I'm perfectly happy with this hobby and forum. I will not be silenced in such a manner by those who disagree with my valid points.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 3:59 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

You go girl - one day at a time you'll find interesting discoveries, gems!
Have you checked out Basil Poledouris yet? Just sayin'.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)


Forums also provide records of previous threads that contain a wealth of information that is related to your postings. Others seem to be able use the old threads to re-start a discussion / debate. You on the other hand just seem to start threads everyday on some new discovery - like a diary entry.




This is very churlish.

WA on this board and others reveals knowledge about music and its construction that is worth reading.

The posts are both technically informative, yet enthusiastic and refreshing. That appeals to both the neophyte and the veteran.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Hey Wagner, now I can understand your miopic post in the best of 2017 film scores when you basically say film music is derivative and blah, blah, blah-today's composers suck. If you don't know James Horner and your posting about film music- that is just silly. How old are you? 24?
Remember , there are other countries in the world where film music is rich and wonderful as well. As I said before: give some Spanish, Scandinavian and Asian composers a listen.
And no, now no one "trusts" you, just because you are a music graduate and a composer. There's lot's of miopics and boneheads who are musicians and call themselves "musicians" who don't know shit about music-and I mean all music.

Like the one quote by Lennon- in a previous post- "who the fuck is Shostakovich?"

Here's one as well from Yoko Ono in 1966, "Who the fuck is John Lennon?"

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Hey Wagner, now I can understand your miopic post in the best of 2017 film scores when you basically say film music is derivative and blah, blah, blah-today's composers suck. If you don't know James Horner and your posting about film music- that is just silly. How old are you? 24?
Remember , there are other countries in the world where film music is rich and wonderful as well. As I said before: give some Spanish, Scandinavian and Asian composers a listen.
And no, now no one "trusts" you, just because you are a music graduate and a composer. There's lot's of miopics and boneheads who are musicians and call themselves "musicians" who don't know shit about music-and I mean all music.

Like the one quote by Lennon- in a previous post- "who the fuck is Shostakovich?"

Here's one as well from Yoko Ono in 1966, "Who the fuck is John Lennon?"


This post goes from point to another without really saying anything, at least not anything worth reading. Take the time to think before you write, please.

And it's "myopic".

 
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