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 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 5:00 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

This is truly bizarre.

The underground network has decided on a new victim.

Envy.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 5:51 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

This is truly bizarre.

The underground network has decided on a new victim.

Envy.


lol! No biggie, the trolls and losers here aren't anywhere near as crass and bilious as on other forums.

Being told I'm not trusted is really humorous to me. Accusing someone of dishonesty on the internet is like trying to hand out speeding tickets durinig the Indy 500.

Anyhoo, yeah I just discovered Horner's music (as an entity separate from the music...of course I've seen the firs two Star Treks, Titanic, Wolfen, etc. mostly when they first came out, so now you have a better idea of my age). His music has been heard by me, but only whilst watching the movies.

I imagine I'll get even more backlash, but thanks so much William for helping to put things even better into perspective, and most of all:

THANKS TO THE ENTIRE FSM BOARD! I've learned SO much, and am very, very grateful. This board has given me both fellowship and the means toward terrific inspiration toward my symphonies (I've already finished the one I started here, am now editing it and making inroads on the sketch for the "new" one). Both of these symphonies will be ready for concert performance by early next year.

William and Yavar's recs have been the most helpful, but to be perfectly frank the vast majority of people on this board have done a wonderful job of turning me onto film music in general as a source of enriching appreciation. I look forward to sharing future discoveries on this board, or at least until the trolls badger the moderators to do "something" about my incessantly expressed joy at discovering the different composers and recordings, and the attempt at sharing such.

I wish EVERYONE here a super happy 2018.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Oh yeah, and I also forgot -- I did this Horner interview/special back in 2013, if you're interested:

http://celluloidtunes.no/celluloid-tunes-08-james-horner-in-vienna-2nd-international-edition/

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Oh yeah, and I also forgot -- I did this Horner interview/special back in 2013, if you're interested:

http://celluloidtunes.no/celluloid-tunes-08-james-horner-in-vienna-2nd-international-edition/


Hey, this is great! Taking a break and listening.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 7:06 AM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

You go girl - one day at a time you'll find interesting discoveries, gems!
Have you checked out Basil Poledouris yet? Just sayin'.


Oh my gosh you must be a master of intuition! I JUST discovered Robocop (the music of course, people, have a heart!). And I know music like that and the Conans are just the tip of the iceberg for maestro Basil, can't wait to get started with serious (read: joyous) investigations, he's incredible!

Really enjoying the podcast that Thor sent me. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   jlj93byu   (Member)

Welcome to the world of James Horner! Your journey will be filled with some of the most emotional, moving, and powerful music ever set to film. I may be biased, but if I am, it's only because I am easily persuaded by beautiful music, and I have enjoyed many of Horner's works for 25 years.

Star Trek II was my first exposure to Horner as well. The next film I remember is "Field of Dreams," where his music really gave that movie so much heart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hmyJzIsiaS8&list=PLH9C08qrQ7S4et9vFPY3UbR-Qr31nEjIG&index=12

"Glory" has already been mentioned, and that one is an absolute jewel. That is one of the first Horner albums I rushed out and bought after seeing the movie.

Since then, I have accumulated about 80 Horner albums. If only you were my neighbor, I could introduce you to them all while saving your wallet! I love sharing my collection with others (legally, of course) so they can at least hear the music, and then decide what albums they want to purchase themselves.

As I think of other albums and tracks to recommend, it really is hard to narrow it down! But I must echo some already said, "Legends of the Fall" is so lush and full, "Braveheart" has been one of my go to albums for 20 years whenever I'm really down and need an emotional lift. Other have mentioned "Searching For Bobby Fischer," and the track "Early Victories" from that is quintessential Horner and one you must listen to ASAP.

Horner's death hit me pretty hard, though it was also a wake up call to how wonderful his music is. Prior to his death, I hadn't heard more than half of his albums. Now, I've heard almost all of them and own many that I wasn't aware of prior to his death. Some of his later work was also amazing, such as "Wolf Totem," "The 33," and the final music he likely wrote, the themes for "The Magnificent Seven" which I recall from an interview he penned just days before his death. I like to think of the following track as his swan song, as it was one of the last themes he developed, and seeing this movie presented me with the last time to see his name on the big screen for new, original score. I will be honest, I shed a few tears when I saw his name up there, and realized it would be the last time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y0J0uYLH9s

Anyway, I'm sure I'll chime in more on this thread! I am so excited for you, and I must admit, even a little jealous! I remember my first time discovering many of these scores and themes, especially as many have been within the last two years, and others have been over the last three decades. Welcome to the amazing, beautiful, wonderful world of James Horner!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:22 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Hey Wagner, now I can understand your miopic post in the best of 2017 film scores when you basically say film music is derivative and blah, blah, blah-today's composers suck. If you don't know James Horner and your posting about film music- that is just silly. How old are you? 24?
Remember , there are other countries in the world where film music is rich and wonderful as well. As I said before: give some Spanish, Scandinavian and Asian composers a listen.
And no, now no one "trusts" you, just because you are a music graduate and a composer. There's lot's of miopics and boneheads who are musicians and call themselves "musicians" who don't know shit about music-and I mean all music.

Like the one quote by Lennon- in a previous post- "who the fuck is Shostakovich?"

Here's one as well from Yoko Ono in 1966, "Who the fuck is John Lennon?"


This post goes from point to another without really saying anything, at least not anything worth reading. Take the time to think before you write, please.

And it's "myopic".


No its MY opic!
wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)



">.... the trolls and losers here aren't anywhere near as crass and bilious as on other forums....."

"Oh Sarge, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about us [weeps]!"

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:26 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

WA 's post aren't any 'worse' that Boggan's interminable "...Odyssesy....Complete Miami Vice ...etc"
threads!
brm

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

'>.... the trolls and losers here aren't anywhere near as crass and bilious as on other forums....."

"Oh Sarge, that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said about us [weeps]!"


Cracking up! Well, I didn't mean it in a mean way of course. As everybody knows, there are trolls on every forum, sometimes undercover.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 12:59 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Actually WA, you are just like Speedy Gonzales. Andale, andale, arriba, arriba . . . ZOOM!!!!!

You seem to be devouring the scores it took me years to pick up in mere . . . seconds. Time to be burped! wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Actually WA, you are just like Speedy Gonzales. Andale, andale, arriba, arriba . . . ZOOM!!!!!

You seem to be devouring the scores it took me years to pick up in mere . . . seconds. Time to be burped! wink


I'm really lucky to have the time. And believe me, the best scores get played over and over. I still haven't stopped with the Ben Hur Complete and I got that in November I think. Same with Vertigo (shoot, I haven't really stopped playing that in the past year), Greatest Story Ever Told, Fall of the Roman Empire, and many others by the above composers. Most recently Goldsmith's Red Pony (devastatingly wonderful score imo).

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm so glad you love The Red Pony as much as I do (despite it being a western, hoho!) A lot of people seem to have overlooked it or Varese wouldn't be selling it for only $11 new. Perhaps because it wasn't released in theaters in the U.S...in any case it's a shame.

Since you love it so much you really must get the Tadlow complete recording of Hour of the Gun, because of the generous bonus suite of The Red Pony. It sounds just amazing in modern sound.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

The Red Pony sounds more and more interesting. Thanks for the thumbs up. smile

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

...the trolls and losers here aren't anywhere near as crass and bilious as on other forums.


I'm curious to know what other forums you frequent then. Because compared to the other forums I frequent this one is decidedly the worst by far for trolling and game-playing.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

I'm so glad you love The Red Pony as much as I do (despite it being a western, hoho!) A lot of people seem to have overlooked it or Varese wouldn't be selling it for only $11 new. Perhaps because it wasn't released in theaters in the U.S...in any case it's a shame.

Since you love it so much you really must get the Tadlow complete recording of Hour of the Gun, because of the generous bonus suite of The Red Pony. It sounds just amazing in modern sound.

Yavar


I forgot about the RP suite on that one! Plus it's Tadlow, I probably already SHOULD have it, right? wink


...the trolls and losers here aren't anywhere near as crass and bilious as on other forums.


I'm curious to know what other forums you frequent then. Because compared to the other forums I frequent this one is decidedly the worst by far for trolling and game-playing.


I think my naming other forums is a bad idea. However, please take my word that there are forums (not necessarily film score oriented though I can think of at least one that qualifies) that are regular with trolls.


The Red Pony sounds more and more interesting. Thanks for the thumbs up. smile

If you like magical, happy-in-a-really-well-composed-and-orchestrated way (Peyton Place, A Certain Smile...but completely with Goldsmith's style), then Red Pony's your horse.

I can't believe I just wrote that. Apologies, sometimes the corn just flows....

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Oh, I'll chime in that I love these threads.

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

Oh, I'll chime in that I love these threads.

I feel as though we all have the opportunity to spread some of the euphoria that comes with the film score journey. By making new topics, newer members (who missed it the 50th time) can chime in all they want. It can be infectious...except perhaps to people who are having a bad time, or pedants.

Finding great music can be a huge rush, let's make it infectious!

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 2:14 PM   
 By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

Shameless plug time.

You might want to start here with Jason Drury's three-part radio documentary on the man.
http://www.cinematicsound.net/the-life-and-music-of-james-horner-radio-documentary-part-i/

I've also produced a boatload of Horner programming over the past couple of years.

A TRIBUTE TO JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/a-tribute-to-james-horner-1953-2015/

MORE MUSIC OF JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/ep-16-more-music-of-james-horner-part-1/

RE-RECORDING JAMES HORNER
http://www.cinematicsound.net/ep-48-re-recording-james-horner/

I hope you find something you like!

Enjoy!

-Erik-


Bumping to confirm that these programs are indispensible if you're looking for a cross-hatch of Horner's career. Very well produced and curated (as always with Erik's radio programs).

 
 Posted:   Jan 24, 2018 - 2:16 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

I think my naming other forums is a bad idea. However, please take my word that there are forums (not necessarily film score oriented though I can think of at least one that qualifies) that are regular with trolls.


If you don't want to name other forums, that's fine, but I wonder what the focus of those forums might be. I frequent other forms on film and on music (but no others on film music) and the contributors at those sites are almost always well-behaved and on-point, even allowing for the sparks of occasional personality conflict. And game-playing is simply not tolerated. I have friends who participate in forums on specific genres of popular music who have visited FSM after hearing me speak of the atmosphere here and they were appalled.

 
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