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 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)


On the aforementioned The Collection set, released last year I think. It has the same title from the 1994 ost but has the original main titles music rather than the Spinner flight music (although Vangelis can't resist segueing into it).


But that set pre-dates the BSX, does it not?


BTW, you didn't answer my question?

Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 10:38 PM   
 By:   meegle   (Member)

Those voice bits kill me.

 
 Posted:   Sep 7, 2014 - 10:45 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

The BSX recording is a great album and well worth investing in, along with the 3-CD 30th anniversary set. I don't think it's any different than owning both the original STAR WARS recordings and the album recordings conducted by Charles Gerhardt. Same music, still awesome, just different recording.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 12:58 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)



BTW, you didn't answer my question?

Ford A. Thaxton


While we are on the subject of answering questions Ford, any comment on whether we might ever see an expanded bsx version of Blade Runner, with the complete score? I expect its a no but it'd be nice to get a reply.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)



BTW, you didn't answer my question?

Ford A. Thaxton


While we are on the subject of answering questions Ford, any comment on whether we might ever see an expanded bsx version of Blade Runner, with the complete score? I expect its a no but it'd be nice to get a reply.


Well, I suspect that won't happen until Vangelis leaves this mortal plane....

I think he's now about 71 years Old

This is a recent photo of him...




Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)



Well, I suspect that won't happen until Vangelis leaves this mortal plane....

Ford A. Thaxton


Could Vangelis veto a complete rerecording though? Most of the work has been done with the current bsx release, I'd like to see it expanded with the music still missing. From a simply commercial point of view, a complete rerecording would sell by the truckload, I'm sure.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

One of my absolute favourite film scores as well, and favourite films. I even analyzed it in my university thesis.

Still, I've always felt content with the original Atlantic release, even with the dialogue (which I normally shun). A perfect concept album from start to finish. I've never had any kind of desire to own the whole thing in its original format.

Personally, I adore Vangelis' approach to these things, sometimes recontextualizing the music in a listener-friendly format as possible. Knowing that he did the same with the 3CD-release, that is on my "to buy" list.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 4:58 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

BLADE RUNNER is one of my favorite films as well, and it has great film music. I do think the original soundtrack release by Vangelis with its dialog snippets makes indeed for a nice concept album, yet there is some great music there that is sadly absent from the album, like the Tyrell death scene, for example. I'd definitely appreciate a more rounded soundtrack release without the dialog.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I’d say if you have to have only ONE --- Um, well, no. Just don’t have only one. The BSX is terrific, but if there’s an existing Vangelis track, the original trumps BSX. But there’s so much great stuff on the BSX.

I just watched Blade Runner (the final cut?) last week. Is the whole ten minutes of Blade Runner Blues really in the movie? I thought it was so cut up over several scenes that I never really thought to myself “Hey! This is missing!” So I stick with the Vangelis version.

Now I have to go find the “official” main title. I keep meaning to dig my New American Orchestra CD out of storage, too. smile

Do you think when Vangelis passes away he’ll have the Blade Runner tapes destroyed along with the Nautilus and Vulcania?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   ghost of 82   (Member)

Do you think when Vangelis passes away he’ll have the Blade Runner tapes destroyed along with the Nautilus and Vulcania?

I bloody hope not!

Seriously, he should arrange with some label to release complete score albums for Blade Runner, Bitter Moon, Bounty etc with all profits going to charity. What in the world would be wrong with that? His old excuse of "flooding the market" hardly counts after all these years, and he hardly releases anything at all these days so its hardly going to impact his own current output.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Do you think when Vangelis passes away he’ll have the Blade Runner tapes destroyed along with the Nautilus and Vulcania?

Hold up, what's going on now? What are Nautilus and Vulcania? Are these albums Vangelis composed that he has arranged to have destroyed upon his death? Sounds rather senseless to me. Kind of like those emperors who would have some of their servants and warriors sacrificed or buried alive with them to serve them in the afterlife. Okay, not on the same scale at all. But still...

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 12:31 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Do you think when Vangelis passes away he’ll have the Blade Runner tapes destroyed along with the Nautilus and Vulcania?

Hold up, what's going on now? What are Nautilus and Vulcania? Are these albums Vangelis composed that he has arranged to have destroyed upon his death? Sounds rather senseless to me. Kind of like those emperors who would have some of their servants and warriors sacrificed or buried alive with them to serve them in the afterlife. Okay, not on the same scale at all. But still...


20,000 Leagues Under the Sea joke.

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

I listen to the BSX at least once a week. I prefer it to all the other releases. Although I do sometimes play the New American Orchestra version for old times sake.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:29 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Do you think when Vangelis passes away he’ll have the Blade Runner tapes destroyed along with the Nautilus and Vulcania?

Hold up, what's going on now? What are Nautilus and Vulcania? Are these albums Vangelis composed that he has arranged to have destroyed upon his death? Sounds rather senseless to me. Kind of like those emperors who would have some of their servants and warriors sacrificed or buried alive with them to serve them in the afterlife. Okay, not on the same scale at all. But still...


20,000 Leagues Under the Sea joke.


Gotcha. Haven't seen that one since I was a kid. You'll forgive me for believing Vangelis might be crazy enough to do that. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 8, 2014 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Gotcha. Haven't seen that one since I was a kid. You'll forgive me for believing Vangelis might be crazy enough to do that. wink


Wouldn't that sort of neurosis legally qualify someone to wrestle the tapes away from Vangelis's clutches?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 7:28 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

What is the music that plays under the dialogue on the Vangelis track "Blush Response"? It's not the score that plays in that scene is it?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2014 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

What is the music that plays under the dialogue on the Vangelis track "Blush Response"? It's not the score that plays in that scene is it?

As far as I can tell no part of "Blush Response" was featured in the film.

From wikipedia about the Atlantic Records release:

This release contained a twelve-page booklet consisting mainly of stills from the film. On page 3 there is a list of credits and the following by Vangelis:

Most of the music contained in this album originates from recordings I made in London in 1982, whilst working on the score for the film BLADE RUNNER. Finding myself unable to release these recordings at the time; it is with great pleasure that I am able to do so now. Some of the pieces contained will be known to you from the Original Soundtrack of the film, whilst others are appearing here for the first time. Looking back at RIDLEY SCOTT's powerful and evocative pictures left me as stimulated as before, and made the recompiling of this music, today, an enjoyable experience. (VANGELIS Athens, April 1994)

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2017 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

Not wishing to start a new thread, can anyone tell me what are the vocalisations sung in the latter part of Vangelis' score, high pitched and wailing, during the Batty/Deckard cat and mouse? I can't find this detailed in my old version of "Future Noir," although I have read that Demis Russos (pardon my spelling) contributed to one of the soundtrack releases. Are the lyrics Greek, or are they wordless tonalities? I vaguely recall reading that Vangelis himself provided some vocals, but I don't know if that's true. Does anyone know for sure?

After all these years, it still feels like a film with many mysteries!

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2017 - 11:38 AM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Not wishing to start a new thread, can anyone tell me what are the vocalisations sung in the latter part of Vangelis' score, high pitched and wailing, during the Batty/Deckard cat and mouse? I can't find this detailed in my old version of "Future Noir," although I have read that Demis Russos (pardon my spelling) contributed to one of the soundtrack releases. Are the lyrics Greek, or are they wordless tonalities? I vaguely recall reading that Vangelis himself provided some vocals, but I don't know if that's true. Does anyone know for sure?

After all these years, it still feels like a film with many mysteries!


The language is Japanese. That's a 1976 recording by Nippon Ensemble (Ensemble Nipponia) called “Ogi No Mato” (“The Folding Fan”).

 
 Posted:   Oct 7, 2017 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   dogplant   (Member)

The language is Japanese. That's a 1976 recording by Nippon Ensemble (Ensemble Nipponia) called “Ogi No Mato” (“The Folding Fan”).

Thanks, Josh. Found some interesting detail about that here:

On "Blade Runner": Four Essays
By Hope Anderson
https://books.google.com/books?id=4-5VDQAAQBAJ&pg=PT17&lpg=PT17&dq=ogi+no+mato+folding+fan+lyrics

Do you know if Vangelis supplied other vocalizations elsewhere to his score?

Edit 1: I just checked my 1994 CD and, while I know these are not exactly the cues as featured in the film, Demis Roussos is credited as performing 'Tales of the Future' and Mary Hopkin (the Welsh singer famous for her 1968 pop song 'Those Were the Days') is credited on 'Rachel's Song' (sic) which I believe made its debut on this album from unused elements recorded in 1982 (I may be wrong about that). I think it was Roussos I was reacting to in my earlier post, rather than the 'Ogi No Mato' song, and perhaps I misspoke when I stated the music plays during the Deckard/Batty chase.

Edit 2: Now that I am obsessing over this, I've discovered that someone on Reddit asked this question a year ago, and the verdict was that Demis Roussos is singing 'ethereal Arabic-inspired vocals,' but it's untranslatable:

https://www.reddit.com/r/bladerunner/comments/49zqd2/translation_for_lyrics_in_tales_from_the_future/

 
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