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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Tobias   (Member)

I was just listening on The Sum of All Fears and realized that the song he wrote to that movie was (probably) the very last song he ever wrote. So that got me thinking and wondering. Which song (to which movie or TV-show/series) was his very first song? And do anyone know how many songs he have written (to movies or TV-shows/series)?

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000025/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1#soundtrack

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:29 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't know what his first song was (the IMDB link above credits a track called "Three Stars Will Shine Tonight" first, from DR. KILDARE in 1961, but it could very well be an instrumental and not a song -- it doesn't say), but I'm sure there are enough JG songs to create a meaty playlist. I've done the same with Williams.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:31 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Interesting that the Sum Of All Fears song is produced by pop producer Trevor Horn and not Goldsmith himself.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Nicholas_DW   (Member)

Interesting that the Sum Of All Fears song is produced by pop producer Trevor Horn and not Goldsmith himself.

He never seemed to trust himself that much with songs, hiring outside producers and arrangers.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

I don't know what his first song was (the IMDB link above credits a track called "Three Stars Will Shine Tonight" first, from DR. KILDARE in 1961, but it could very well be an instrumental and not a song -- it doesn't say), but I'm sure there are enough JG songs to create a meaty playlist. I've done the same with Williams.

The song appears on disc 3 of the FSM Dr. Kildare release:

https://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/425/Dr.-Kildare/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

Interesting that the Sum Of All Fears song is produced by pop producer Trevor Horn and not Goldsmith himself.

He never seemed to trust himself that much with songs, hiring outside producers and arrangers.



FYI, you might not be aware but BSX recorded an entire album of his songs a couple of years of ago
It has great notes by Jon Burlingame


https://tinyurl.com/y4luwymq

It's available on ITUNES and SPOTIFY


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 12:29 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Goldsmith wasn't exactly Richard Rodgers or Jerome Kern in the song department, was he?

And that's OK. Composers are useful for certain things. Goldsmith was useful for writing nervous/angular/longhair music.

The closest thing to a Goldsmith "song" I know is "Your Zowie Face."

The list of songs of that collection pictured above reads almost like a parody.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 2:20 PM   
 By:   roy phillippe   (Member)

I don't know what his first song was (the IMDB link above credits a track called "Three Stars Will Shine Tonight" first, from DR. KILDARE in 1961, but it could very well be an instrumental and not a song -- it doesn't say), but I'm sure there are enough JG songs to create a meaty playlist. I've done the same with Williams.

The song appears on disc 3 of the FSM Dr. Kildare release:

https://filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/425/Dr.-Kildare/


This was co-composed with Pete Rugolo, his name is on the sheet music. Do they give Pete credit
on the CD? Oops I just saw that they did. Never mind.

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

"Co-composed" seems a bit of an exaggeration. Rugolo made the arrangement of Jerry's thematic material for the song version. But the melodic content of the song is 100% Jerry.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

No lyrics to it but I'm sure The Revelairs would still consider this a "song" of theirs... I think it's totally badass:



Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   lacoq   (Member)

Goldsmith's beautiful theme for Dr. Kildare perfectly illustrates how far we've fallen when it comes to television themes. Time moves on and tastes change, but it’s sad to realize that a lovely melody like that probably wouldn’t be given a chance to be heard in today's TV wasteland.......

 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I think most of Jerry's songs sound like he was writing entries for the Eurovision Song Contest.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 23, 2020 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   EricHG30   (Member)

Goldsmith wasn't exactly Richard Rodgers or Jerome Kern in the song department, was he?

And that's OK. Composers are useful for certain things. Goldsmith was useful for writing nervous/angular/longhair music.

The closest thing to a Goldsmith "song" I know is "Your Zowie Face."

The list of songs of that collection pictured above reads almost like a parody.


I dunno. Flying Wings from The Secret of NIMH (lyrics, and one version sung, by Paul Williams) is absolutely gorgeous, I think--even if I'm not completely sold on Williams' vocals.



 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 9:46 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

No lyrics to it but I'm sure The Revelairs would still consider this a "song" of theirs... I think it's totally badass:



Yavar


Wow! Never heard this, thanks Yavar and hope you had a good birthday!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Zaq Walkman   (Member)

The Omen

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   Zaq Walkman   (Member)

Goldsmith wasn't exactly Richard Rodgers or Jerome Kern in the song department, was he?

And that's OK. Composers are useful for certain things. Goldsmith was useful for writing nervous/angular/longhair music.

The closest thing to a Goldsmith "song" I know is "Your Zowie Face."

The list of songs of that collection pictured above reads almost like a parody.


I dunno. Flying Wings from The Secret of NIMH (lyrics, and one version sung, by Paul Williams) is absolutely gorgeous, I think--even if I'm not completely sold on Williams' vocals.





I love that song and I love that score and I love the James Horner American Tail song. I suppose Horner couldn't write a song either? Also a Don Bluth movie

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

Your friendly reminder that in 1983 Goldsmith was planning a JUNGLE BOOK Broadway musical with lyrics by Paul Williams. It's always seemed logical to me that whatever melodies he composed for this aborted project ended up in his film scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2020 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   HAL 2000   (Member)

Your friendly reminder that in 1983 Goldsmith was planning a JUNGLE BOOK Broadway musical with lyrics by Paul Williams. It's always seemed logical to me that whatever melodies he composed for this aborted project ended up in his film scores.

Off topic a bit but the one aborted Goldsmith project I wish had come to light was the supposed opera of Moby Dick he was to do with Ray Bradbury.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2020 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Wow! Never heard this, thanks Yavar and hope you had a good birthday!

Thanks Henry, and you’re welcome. Yeah I discovered that a couple years ago and we played it at the end of our Fifties Roundup (Episode 8 of the podcast) to lead us from the 50s (when Jerry wrote the theme) to the 60s (this cover is from 1964).

And guess what? It’s still goin’ strong. It really was Jerry’s first hit theme, before Dr. Kildare...and dare I say it, the longer-lasting of the two. Here’s another band that took up their own rendition in 2012 (and there are several live versions of them doing it which you can find too):



About half a year ago I discovered just how deep the rabbit hole went, with covers of Jerry’s Black Saddle theme. And it’s crazy. There are multiple school band performances/arrangements too, for example. In fact we are planning an overview for this theme through the years, for our Gold Nugget 8 episode later this year.

Yavar

 
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