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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2017 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Here,in the UK, the original Soundtrack LP of “Oliver!” was released on the RCA label.

Are they not the reason why an expanded score cannot be issued?

(See also “South Pacific” and Mario Lanza’s “The Student Prince”.)




The UK LP looked to be quite lavish compared to the US.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2017 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I remember that gatefold album. The interior open spread was a very detailed color photo looking down the Dickensian street market scene with so much going on it made your head spin.

I think this might have been it:



That number (Consider Yourself) was brilliantly brought to life.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2017 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   Michael Condon   (Member)

After reading all of the posts in this thread, I was encouraged to seek out a copy of the Twilight Time bluray. I've never seen this movie, and am only familiar withone or two of the songs. But I'm really looking forward to watching it soon.

One of the many good things about this board is discovering new music and films based on the thoughts, reviews and enthusiasm of its members.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2017 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Hugh Griffiths' boozy judge was hilarious. He can only see Oliver's cap just beyond the front edge of his desk, and with the wee lad standing there the judge says, "well, stand up, boy." He's perpetually inebriated and periodically lifts up the lid of his desk to surreptitiously take a few sips of the beverage he's got tucked away there.



The whole setup just worked a dream.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2017 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

I particularly love the way that he starts “As Long as He Needs Me” so quietly and builds to that stunning climax. Just beautiful!..... and WHY didn’t we hear more from Shani Wallis???

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=29812&forumID=1&archive=1

And from a reply elsewhere--

Oliver!, for "As Long As He Needs Me." The Johnny Green arrangement is breathtaking, particularly the lower string counterpoint in what I believe would be called the 2nd chorus. I listen to it especially just for that.

And now let's add this--



Not to mention this in honor of Maestro Green and the aforementioned lower string counterpoint (mark 1:55)--

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2017 - 4:56 AM   
 By:   roadshowfan   (Member)

I absolutely love and adore this musical. Try watching it without humming, whistling or singing these tunes afterward. To my eyes and ears, each viewing just gets better.

Given the surviving materials we have, the score and effects track unfortunately is likely the best we have. An expanded reissue of Scrooge is also welcome.


I heartily agree with you! I think Oliver! just grows in stature as the years roll by. The "Consider yourself" number alone is just staggering in its execution. Green's scintillating scoring, wonderful set design, nimble editing and Onna White's brilliant choreography all combine to make this one of cinema's most exhilarating musical moments in my 'umble opinion.

 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2017 - 9:40 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

The UK LP looked to be quite lavish compared to the US?


The original 1968 UK LP had a gatefold cover with pages of colour plates and some B/W line drawings of some of the characters (Presumably by Howard Terpning(?) who did the poster artwork.

These images aren’t very good but,you get the idea.....







I was in Leicester Square on the night of the Premiere and watched the starry audience leaving. Most of the cast were there,along with quite a few other Stars.
I remember Lionel Bart came out,in his BIG Fedora, beaming from ear to ear.
What a night for him?


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 14, 2017 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

Mildly off-topic, but did you know that THEE GREAT STEVE MARRIOTT - pre-Small Faces - played the Artful Dodger in the London production of Oliver?

Here he is:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2017 - 1:57 PM   
 By:   mercutio843   (Member)

Has anyone seen this clip on youtube? Someone in US (i think) acquired what looks like a homemade CD of score but it's on in the background and sounds beautiful. Track listing also huge. I wonder where he would get it from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z136zOlqYzA

 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2017 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   CH-CD   (Member)

Has anyone seen this clip on youtube? Someone in US (i think) acquired what looks like a homemade CD of score but it's on in the background and sounds beautiful. Track listing also huge. I wonder where he would get it from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z136zOlqYzA


WOW! Where DID he get this from???

Sounds like a music and effects track? I think of Oliver’s arrival in London?

I WANT ONE! eek

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 16, 2017 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

Has anyone seen this clip on youtube? Someone in US (i think) acquired what looks like a homemade CD of score but it's on in the background and sounds beautiful. Track listing also huge. I wonder where he would get it from?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z136zOlqYzA


WOW! Where DID he get this from???

Sounds like a music and effects track? I think of Oliver’s arrival in London?

I WANT ONE! eek


Get the Twilight Time Blu-ray, its the same

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2017 - 1:44 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

It certainly is a shame and a historical loss that the masters for the OLIVER! soundtrack are gone. John Green did brilliant work on this movie and it was perhaps his best work. The "Overture" in particular is wonderful. IMO it is the best main title of any movie musical I've seen. I recall reading or hearing that Columbia execs did not like the main title music and wanted it changed to focus on the song "As Long As He Needs Me", but someone intervened (Mike Frankovich?) to keep it the way Green wanted it. Has anyone heard the same story? I also recall that Gene Kelly thought that OLIVER! was the best movie musical ever (or words to that effect).

First, thanks to CH-CD for the pics of the gatefold LP, of which I can remember carefully handling the one in the family collection. A recent showing of the movie on one of the TV channels indicates how much intervening stuff in the movie was taken out of the 'Consider Yourself' number alone. From now on I'm going to think of all the alleged excised sections on a potential master tape as 'perforation alley'. That's your doing, manderley. wink

That comment about Gene Kelly's view of the Brittixh dramatic musical actually got caught up in my imagination and I wonder how he assimilated it all on first viewing - what did his professional, roving eye behold, I wonder (if they can do that, they can do . . . anything)?

As for the Main Title, I can't think of it as being other than what it actually is. All the main themes of the songs are given consideration, and it does all that within a cleverly woven framework.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 16, 2021 - 12:27 PM   
 By:   Super8mm   (Member)

As I am sure this topic has been brought up before, it's been awhile since I've seen or read any recent news regarding the status of this Oscar winning movie and it's soundtrack CD getting an upgrade to an expanded re-mastered edition. It's truly a shame that such an award winning film with a spectacular soundtrack has not been given the attention it deserves to have an expanded edition featuring the entire score, not unlike the fantastic job done for "Goodbye, Mr. Chips" that was done a few years ago. What is currently available is a severely edited, poorly mastered CD that does not do justice to this famous and well loved movie. The source tapes are probably in sad shape given that this score has only been available in it's current state, but I would love to hear anything in regards to any attention being given to this soundtrack or if it's truly a lost cause. Given it's Oscar award status and history I would assume someone with archival interests would want to pursue this. Any hope out there?


All of John Green's music was donated to Harvard University when he died. They are the ones that hold his music.

 
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