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Jun 22, 2019 - 6:49 AM
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Nono
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When a crescendo is no longer a crescendo, because everything else is just about as loud, it just doesn't have the impact it should.
There is such a crescendo in the first part of the Leaving Home cue, which is absolutely stunning. The sheer intensity John Williams obtains here make your heart fully opened for the introduction of his americana theme, which is then played with great delicacy and subtle dynamic nuances before the final crescendo, which is not as high as the first one since John Williams had already captured our attention, bringing the listener exactly where he wanted.
The softest parts are now much louder, the crescendos fall flat, as well as the intensity and delicacy of the cue. The final crescendo is also as loud as the first one, while the turning point (when Clark Kent decides to go to his destiny) is in the first one.
This is the same with the Rhino and the Blue Box editions, though.
I take a higher dynamic range over the thin loudness re-mastering any day.
Me too.
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The NONO Nonsensical
I'm really sorry for you if you can't hear all the dynamic nuances which make music :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynamics_(music)
Ignorance is bliss.
Chill.
I probably have the best ears here.
I explained the ' problem' with extreme levels.
Bruce
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Compression was used on Lps because extreme loudness could cause the needle to mistrack; e.g the cymbal crash on " Siegrfrieds Funeral".
That doesn't happen on CDs obviously so we can get better dynamics than in the old days.
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My strong preference is for the dynamic range to NOT be too big. I HATE having to turn up the soft parts and turn down the loud parts.
In the car, a big range means not being able to hear the soft parts at all. And with earbuds, it means the loud parts are going to suddenly hurt my ears.
So, if anything, this complaint about "compression" is one more reason for me to like the new LLL set.
There is obviously a market for releases that are flat and with little dynamics that can be listened to in a car and that will sound ok on lower end ear buds etc. Many pop albums seem to demonstrate the need; fair enough. However, there is also a market, maybe a much smaller one but at least in classical music a still relevant one, that cares about high fidelity. I don't need releases mastered for my car ( which is capable of adjusting volume on its own) but for an actual stereo sound system, and there I dislike the excessive loudness reductions. I don't think I have ever encountered a recording whose dynamic range was too large, but quite a few that were gratingly too flat. But in VHS days, lots of people preferred Pan & Scan to letterbox, which was puzzling to me too, so what do I know?
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No.
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Why is this thread still active?
It's 2019 dammitt!
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Mr. Marshall,
There was no smiley-face emoji in your message, so, I'm assuming that your serious about this.
The film's 40th Anniversary celebration is between December 15th (the date when the film was released 40 years ago), 2018 through December 14th 2019. So, there's over 4 months left in the anniversary. The film's success from the December '78 release had continued into '79.
If you stopped celebrating, that's your thing.
Hey man,
I worked at a theatre that showed it. I've seen it more times than anybody here!.
Since when do anniversaries last a whole year?
" ..its over Johnny... It's over!"
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Posted: |
Dec 1, 2019 - 7:44 AM
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alexp
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"SyncMan" at JWFan said
As you may recall, in the final-film’s end credits, portions of the ‘Love Theme from Superman’ cue were cut out. So, to restore the piece to its unedited form, the following can be featured at the end of the end-credits sequence
• a new dedication clip can be made featuring all the names of the people involved in the production that we’ve lost since 1978.
• The Warner Bros. studio logo clip
Considering that most of the audience will stay to the very end of the concert and that some printed-programs may ask them to remain seated “out of respect for the musicians and your fellow audience members”, having those said clips at the end of the program will get some use. Besides, having the audience hear the end of the love theme piece—a soft flute statement of the love theme followed by a somber French horn--over this dedication clip may be moving for them.
I think Richard Donner may sign-off, easily, on having the dedication switched to the end of the movie if he understands that this alteration would only be for the L2P concert. Convincing the studio to have their logo be seen at the end of the movie, may need work."
This "SyncMan" at JWFan did just that, made a video of the end credits where the 'love theme' is restored. To extended the length of the end credits, he made a 'dedication' clip displaying cast/crew members that past away since the film ended production.
It can be found here:
https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/29114-superman-the-movie-40th-anniversary/&tab=comments#comment-1614885
I hope that the producers of the upcoming "Superman-Film-with-live-orchestra" concert are watching.
Oh!
Happy Thanksgiving, Mr. Marshall
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It's a nice idea, but it isn't going to be done this way. The "Love Theme" won't be played.
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