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 Posted:   May 5, 2011 - 10:57 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Yeah, she´s not so big in the states. She was in the charts but she never was a success. She was - and is - however successfull in her home country England and in other parts of Europe. I believe that she also enjoys popularity in Japan but I don´t know. One thing is for certain: she has devoted long term fans smile


Not so big in the States... you ain't kiddin'. I swear to God the only KB track that was ever played on North American radio was "Running Up That Hill". Exasperating. Radio programmers are twits. I think if I ever heard "Moving" or "Wow" on the radio I would plotz... no lie. I've never heard her played on any college stations, either, but at least with them there's always the possibility.

I agree that she's pretty beloved in Japan. It seemed to me that in the early 80's every other J-Pop girl-singer appropriated her vocal style. Maybe because sometimes KB herself seemed a bit reminiscent of some of Yoko Ono's more mainstream bits. That might be just me reading too much into it, though. Now Sandii (& The Sunsetz), she's a dead ringer. I wish they had made more albums. "Bongazuna", "Drip Dry Eyes"... great stuff.

Not to mention that every singer that uses a headset mic owes KB a big thank you. If not her, directly, then certainly her 1979 Tour Of Life sound-guy!

 
 
 Posted:   May 5, 2011 - 11:44 PM   
 By:   razorback64   (Member)

I always found it odd that 'Hammer Horror' wasn't a bigger hit in her home country of England. It went nationally to #17 here in Australia.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

Kate through the years...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/7523462.stm

Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 12:48 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Whenever I talk about Kate Bush with anyone I'm always pretty careful not to even address her looks. First of all, it makes me seem like just some (old) horny fanboy and, secondly, once you do that, then it only perpetuates the ridiculous notion that she got where she is because of it. I suppose for some people that may actually be true, that they really do listen to her music just because she's a pretty woman. If that's the case then they really do her and themselves a disservice.

It would be retarded* to deny she's a beautiful woman. Clearly, she is. But it would also be such a damn shame to think that her credibility as an artist was diminished because of it. One would be hard-pressed to find a more unique performer, who also did things her own way... with little or no compromises.

I could talk about her music for hours (but I confess, I'd rather talk to her for hours! LOL)

(* That's right. I said "retarded". I'm reclaiming the word. big grin )

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

I wrote a novel, or the startings of a novel "In Search Of Cathy" about an obsessive Kate Bush fan who invents a childhood growing up with Kate. She uses information she's scoured from articles and biographies, and Jay Carder Bush's book of photographs of Kate as a child, to construct a make-believe past where she and Kate were best friends.

Lyrical themes of Kate's songs are also woven in as though these imaginary incidents were the source of the songs. She never mentions 'Kate Bush' but always refers to her as Cathy.

I remember doing the research and having piles of A4 pages on the layout of Kate's childhood garden, dates, people, key incidents... I look back and it seems somewhat obsessive. Whether this was art imitating life or life imitating art I don't know.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 5:48 AM   
 By:   Marlene   (Member)

Whenever I talk about Kate Bush with anyone I'm always pretty careful not to even address her looks. First of all, it makes me seem like just some (old) horny fanboy and, secondly, once you do that, then it only perpetuates the ridiculous notion that she got where she is because of it. I suppose for some people that may actually be true, that they really do listen to her music just because she's a pretty woman. If that's the case then they really do her and themselves a disservice.

Oh, but why hesitate? Even I can admire that she´s a beautiful woman. I think that she even looks better with age. On every picture that is made of her nowadays (and there aren´t much) she looks very happy. She has wrinkles coming from a lot of laugh in her life. She is proof that an artist doesn´t need to make an album every 2 years, can be happy, have a family, children and then have a comeback.

I wrote a novel, or the startings of a novel "In Search Of Cathy" about an obsessive Kate Bush fan who invents a childhood growing up with Kate.

(...)

I remember doing the research and having piles of A4 pages on the layout of Kate's childhood garden, dates, people, key incidents... I look back and it seems somewhat obsessive. Whether this was art imitating life or life imitating art I don't know.


Have you tried contacting her? I imagine it to be difficult but I assume she would think that it´s funny.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

She has wrinkles coming from a lot of laugh in her life.


I always notice that too. Unmistakable. I love laugh lines. Laugh lines are attractive.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   Jehannum   (Member)

Have you tried contacting her? I imagine it to be difficult but I assume she would think that it´s funny.

Ha! That would only underline the obsessiveness! No, knowing her as I do smile I don't think she'd find it funny.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 9:47 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Funny enough, I had never heard of a "Kate Bush" until I joined the FSM Board?

A small irony being that Michael Kamen did the arrangements for one of my favorite songs by Kate Bush - "Moments Of Pleasure". I think he also did a couple of things on her last full album as well?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 9:55 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

She's had a hell of an influence that's probably hard to appreciate in retrospect. When she first unleashed 'Wuthering Heights' people actually found it very avante-garde in the stale pop scene then. She's never really atonal or anything, or even deliberately dissonant like Wilcox or Ferry etc. were at the time, but she has a gift for free-flow sounding melody that is actually very crafted. I've not really followed her since 'Kick Inside' which was good, not because of any dissatisfaction, just because, well, I haven't.

I used to have a dentist who looked like her.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Have you tried contacting her? I imagine it to be difficult but I assume she would think that it´s funny.

Ha! That would only underline the obsessiveness! No, knowing her as I do smile I don't think she'd find it funny.


I think she'd be scared, very very scared wink

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Funny enough, I had never heard of a "Kate Bush" until I joined the FSM Board?

A small irony being that Michael Kamen did the arrangements for one of my favorite songs by Kate Bush - "Moments Of Pleasure". I think he also did a couple of things on her last full album as well?


Yes, he did work on her last album, Aerial.

Michael Nyman has also arranged for Kate Bush.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Holly   (Member)

After reading this thread, I had some friends pass along some information about Kate Bush (she sounds like a very lovely and humble, down-to-earth lady), and one shared this interview with me, which I listened to this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b010vxyv

I'm looking forward to exploring her music. I'm fairly picky when it comes to female vocalists, but Kate's tone and range is undeniably unique, not to mention engaging.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 1:10 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Her lyrics are always excellent. That was a good interview, thanks.

Actually, I forgot the 'Hounds of Love' album, which was my last real trip into her stuff.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

After reading this thread, I had some friends pass along some information about Kate Bush (she sounds like a very lovely and humble, down-to-earth lady), and one shared this interview with me, which I listened to this morning:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/console/b010vxyv

I'm looking forward to exploring her music. I'm fairly picky when it comes to female vocalists, but Kate's tone and range is undeniably unique, not to mention engaging.


I'd like to hear what you think Holly, as I've mentioned before, I think Kate has unique vocals, originality and a true pioneer, the woman is genius.

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 2:06 PM   
 By:   Timmer   (Member)

Her lyrics are always excellent. That was a good interview, thanks.

Actually, I forgot the 'Hounds of Love' album, which was my last real trip into her stuff.


I'd recommend AERIAL, I really wasn't sure about it at first but it's one of those albums that really grows on you, it's superb IMO.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 2:22 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I've always really liked Joannie from Aerial. Slow, deliberate and with a fair bit of underlying psychology going on. For instance, that subtle scream she makes in the lower registers. Is that a battle cry or something else?

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 2:41 PM   
 By:   Holly   (Member)

I really enjoyed watching the video clip at the end of this article:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7530752.stm

...she talks about the whole movement/music dynamic. As I love to dance and sing, I can only imagine how challenging it is to do both in a seamless fashion. I still dance (I have not been 'actively' involved with music since college), but I do find myself breathless at times. Perhaps it would've been more plausible when I was younger and practicing both. Anyway, great article and clip...I'm going to do some more research tonight. (Can't concentrate with Barney the Purple Dinosaur on the telly.)

Any suggestions on which album I should check out first? I do tend to prefer earlier 'works' when it comes to female vocalists. Just me though. I love the innocence and virginity...its like watching a flower blossom for the first time.

 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Holly, here's a whole YouTube documentary on one of her albums, 'Hounds of Love' but all of the ones mentioned above will be good. The later ones are more intimate I think, but even that's a subjective thing, the early ones are iconic and individual:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1hgijoSi4o&feature=fvst


Blimey, another one about her whole career:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOdBTF4NXvU&feature=fvwrel

They're 90 minutes each!

 
 
 Posted:   May 6, 2011 - 4:56 PM   
 By:   Marlene   (Member)

(Can't concentrate with Barney the Purple Dinosaur on the telly.)

Gosh, this really exists?? I thought they did a made-up in joke in Jurassic Park III. Oh, you poor dear.

Any suggestions on which album I should check out first? I do tend to prefer earlier 'works' when it comes to female vocalists. Just me though. I love the innocence and virginity...its like watching a flower blossom for the first time.

Phew, that´s difficult. If you like your music a bit older, '70s like, then "The Kick Inside" is nice. Or "Never For Ever" which is a lovely tight and concentrated album. If you like '80s stuff more then "Hounds of Love" are for you. The latter actually consisted off two thematic separate albums of sort when vinyl still existed: the first album or side was mainstream, the second one more experimental and revolves around a woman facing her death (drowning) in cold water. As a German it´s always a surprise when she comes up with a german spoken sentence at the end of the album.

If you like something calming from a woman totally happy and relaxed, something that may sound naive on the first listen then "Aerial" is perfect. Here she repeats the concept of "Hounds of Love" only this time it´s two seperate CDs.

And if you are daring and want to explore strange forests, different planets etc. then "The Dreaming" shall be yours. That album is so far removed from mainstream as pop music can be - and it´s wonderful at that. One of my favourites.

As a fan I naturally say "Get them all" but that would be a bit too much.

Oh and BTW, it´s nice to see that she´s got so many fans around here. Fills my heart with warm feelings.

EDIT: And I forgot, she´s the only singer where I listen to the lyrics. Normally I really hate lyrics (filmscores are therefore perfect for me big grin) but Kate makes me listen all the times somehow.

 
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