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Recording it tomorrow night! Afraid we had to bump it to have this Matinee extravaganza ready in time.
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...I look forward to listening to this enlightening show with Chris Malone.
Here you go, (member)!
Clark writes: Trapped in a life that doesn't fulfill you? Struggling with the feeling that too many years have been wasted? Uncomfortable with being forced to confront your own mortality? If so, why not trade in your increasingly fragile body for a gloriously youthful one? With your vitality restored, you'll be able to participate in a host of high-energy activities, like painting, socializing, grape-stomping, and - best of all - listening to The Goldsmith Odyssey! This time around, your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark place the Soundtrack Spotlight on Quartet's new release of Jerry's Goldsmith's haunting score for John Frankenheimer's Seconds! They're joined by returning guests Chris Malone, who restored and produced this new album, and John Takis, who wrote the liner notes. You'll hear about Goldsmith's assorted thematic ideas, the challenges of removing dialogue from certain cues, the key differences between this release and the previous one, the different ways the film strikes certain viewers, and more! Lots of good stuff here, so contact The Company at your earliest convenience, settle into your thrilling new life, and press play!
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10848209-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-seconds-1966
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Jun 24, 2022 - 1:31 PM
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...I look forward to listening to this enlightening show with Chris Malone.
Here you go, (member)!
Clark writes: Trapped in a life that doesn't fulfill you? Struggling with the feeling that too many years have been wasted? Uncomfortable with being forced to confront your own mortality? If so, why not trade in your increasingly fragile body for a gloriously youthful one? With your vitality restored, you'll be able to participate in a host of high-energy activities, like painting, socializing, grape-stomping, and - best of all - listening to The Goldsmith Odyssey! This time around, your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark place the Soundtrack Spotlight on Quartet's new release of Jerry's Goldsmith's haunting score for John Frankenheimer's Seconds! They're joined by returning guests Chris Malone, who restored and produced this new album, and John Takis, who wrote the liner notes. You'll hear about Goldsmith's assorted thematic ideas, the challenges of removing dialogue from certain cues, the key differences between this release and the previous one, the different ways the film strikes certain viewers, and more! Lots of good stuff here, so contact The Company at your earliest convenience, settle into your thrilling new life, and press play!
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10848209-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-seconds-1966
Thank you very much. I'm excited.
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... Jerry Goldsmith's moody, suspenseful score for the occult-themed Thriller episode "Dark Legacy."
Only just today did I listen to this odyssey podcast from October 2021 on "Dark Legacy".
Apologies that I haven't been listening to these during the past 2 years or I would've responded sooner.
If you don't mind my input on this segment 9 months after you posted it, then please accept my feedback below.
First, watching reruns of STAR TREK & THE OUTER LIMITS since age 12 in 1980 I'm familiar with Harry Townes from "The Return of the Archons" and "O.B.I.T." - so (not to brag, but ...) I recognized him as the elderly occultist in the pre-credits teaser when I first saw THRILLER episodes on DVD in 2010. Regarding his wardrobe, I think the THRILLER production crew intentionally amplified the 'halloween costume' aspects to telegraph the black magic rituals which were infrequently depicted onscreen 60 years ago.
We know that THRILLER started out as a crime jazz series and was reconfigured (based upon Boris Karloff's hosting) to cash-in on the monster craze and hook young audiences.
One of the reasons that "Pigeons from Hell" is a most-remembered classic is no doubt due to its axe mudrer/gore scenes - topics amongst children (for days after its broadcast) across the nation's schoolyards.
I think the superimposed eyes floating around in the smoke to depict a demon from hell in "Dark Legacy" might have freaked out some youngsters in 1961 - much like ST's "The Lights of Zetar" nauseated me the first time I saw it.
As adults we see these things as low budget effects, but - as a child - notions of disembodied heads or eyes can be upsetting/sickening.
Also, I wish to mention that in addition to the regular television censorship standards in place during those times, the overall climate was further thickened by the Catholic Legion of Decency. Pagan rituals, the supernatural, plus much else were considered tabu and rarely portrayed. I think it's very possible that John Tomerlin's script for "Dark Legacy" might have initially contained more 'tabu' scenes or aspects of black magic that may have been hampered or suppressed by the (then-) broadcasting practices ... or fell victim to budgetary constraints.
THRILLER's "La Strega" scenes of a coven's orgy was interpreted as a beatnik ballet! Mustn't show a real witches' coven, ya know?
[as an aside footnote, I find it fascinating that horror film production was forbidden in Italy until around 1956 with items like I Vampiri]
Which brings me to the most important subject: Goldsmith + occult + dodecaphony.
I, too, think that "Dark Legacy" is probably Jerry G.'s first musical depiction of occult subject matter.
Owning about 150 Goldsmith soundtracks, I state with sincerity my favorite 3 are occult-related (The Illustrated Man, The Mephisto Waltz & The Reincarnation of Peter Proud) ... plus we all know the Oscar-win for The Omen. Goldsmith's scores for the supernatural, I feel, are his most significant contributions to cinema.
If I was a filmmaker doing an occult movie during the early '70s, then I would want Goldsmith on its production!
What this podcast didn't mention, though, was that Goldsmith's ascending 'fate' motif sounds 12-tone.
We know that Goldsmith was one of the initial practioners applying/adapting 12-tone techniques in Hollywood - following Leonard Rosenman. Whilst post-WWII modernity from Goldsmith can be heard early on with City of Fear, "Dark Legacy" might well be the first time that a 12-tone musical vocabulary is afixed to pentagrams, spells, etc. just as Rosenman's "And When the Sky Was Opened" for TZ was likely the first time 12-tone music got associated to science-fiction.
I hope "Dark Legacy"'s NovaChord is not the reason why it has not yet been recorded anew.
If there ever is a volume 3 of Goldsmith THRILLER, then "Dark Legacy" along with "Guillotine" will make for a very Horn-y album. 
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Jun 25, 2022 - 2:26 AM
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Rollin Hand
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...I look forward to listening to this enlightening show with Chris Malone.
Here you go, (member)!
Clark writes: Trapped in a life that doesn't fulfill you? Struggling with the feeling that too many years have been wasted? Uncomfortable with being forced to confront your own mortality? If so, why not trade in your increasingly fragile body for a gloriously youthful one? With your vitality restored, you'll be able to participate in a host of high-energy activities, like painting, socializing, grape-stomping, and - best of all - listening to The Goldsmith Odyssey! This time around, your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark place the Soundtrack Spotlight on Quartet's new release of Jerry's Goldsmith's haunting score for John Frankenheimer's Seconds! They're joined by returning guests Chris Malone, who restored and produced this new album, and John Takis, who wrote the liner notes. You'll hear about Goldsmith's assorted thematic ideas, the challenges of removing dialogue from certain cues, the key differences between this release and the previous one, the different ways the film strikes certain viewers, and more! Lots of good stuff here, so contact The Company at your earliest convenience, settle into your thrilling new life, and press play!
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10848209-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-seconds-1966
Excellent show! Thanks again. Amongst my favorite ones.
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https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10884607-gold-shavings-shop-talk-with-chris-malone
Hey, it's an Odyssey bonus feature! If you look at the average runtime of our episodes, you may have concluded that we like to talk. It's true. In fact, we like to talk so much that sometimes we even talk outside the sprawling boundaries of the program itself. Sometimes, that bonus conversation gets recorded. And this time, we've cobbled some bits and pieces of that bonus conversation together for your eavesdropping pleasure. Before and after recording the Caboblanco Soundtrack Spotlight, your humble hosts Clark and David spent some time casually chatting with guest Chris Malone about... well, about soundtrack stuff. If you like soundtrack stuff (and we have a feeling that you do), you might enjoy the conversation.
Note: If you are planning to use this show as accompaniment to this year's holiday fireworks display, we recommend starting your grand finale near the end when Chris says, "It's an interesting time at the moment," as the grand display of colorful explosions will help subtly accentuate just how interesting the moment is.
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In anticipation, with music:
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/10957890-production-report-the-bar-mitzvah-of-major-orlovsky-sarah-s-laughter-2022-leigh-phillips-recording
New Goldsmith music is just around the corner, and we have a new production report to fill you in on all the details! With the aid of his Kickstarter backers, Leigh Phillips has created two new recordings of previously unreleased Goldsmith scores written for The General Electric Theatre: “The Bar Mitzvah of Major Orlovsky” (which foreshadows such Jewish-themed Goldsmith works as QBVII and Masada) and “Sarah’s Laughter” (a tender, yet surprisingly complex, score marked by striking harmonica passages). Leigh joins your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark to talk about the origins of the project, the fundraising process, the challenges of reconstructing “Major Orlovsky”, recording the music with members of the City of Prague Philharmonic, mixing the music, and much more! Naturally, you’ll be treated to some choice excerpts of the new music along the way. Whether you’re a Kickstarter backer who’s eager for more details on the project or simply a casually curious listener, we think there’s much to enjoy here. So give the show a listen, and get ready for the arrival of two wonderful television scores!
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https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/11302249-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-5-music-for-television-1968-1975
La-La Land's Goldsmith at 20th series continues with the most exciting volume yet, and we have a new Soundtrack Spotlight to commemorate the occasion! Film music restoration experts Mike Matessino and Chris Malone join your humble hosts Yavar and David to discuss the varied challenges of working on seven different Goldsmith television projects composed between 1968 and 1975: Anna and the King, A Girl Named Sooner, Nick Quarry, Only in America, Prudence and the Chief, Room 222, and A Tree Grows in Brooklyn. You'll hear excerpts from all of these scores, along with discussion of where certain elements were found, which projects required the greatest degree of restoration work, how Goldsmith's work fits within the musical conventions of the era, and much more! This is one of the most exciting Goldsmith releases in some time (boasting two premieres and two significant expansions), so tune in and get a taste while waiting for your copy to arrive!
We have another talk with Mike Matessino coming down the road a bit. It's quite a deep dive on the Director's Edition of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, so hopefully it will be worth the wait. Special thanks go to Wes Deckers, who stepped up and put this show together!
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https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/11577733-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-hollow-man-2000
This was a fun chat, the whole Odyssey team with recording engineer Bruce Botnick, Goldsmith's frequent synth programmer Nick Vidar, Doug Fake, Roger Feigelson and Jeff Bond. It's loaded with music, too. I hope you like it.
Our Spotlight - Hollow Man Track List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1g59odRvHxfKHJ2BnQriy1Oz6W80bcZ95WGmyRRyi1v0/edit?usp=sharing
This episode contains clips from a radio program produced and hosted by Michael Moricz in January of 1988, The Audio Works Studio WDUQ. It's one of the ones where Jerry really was forthcoming!
Put this into the Hollow Man thread, too: any Goldsmith fan, no matter how casual, will want to listen to this episode. To say its excellent is to say water is wet. Nick Vidar is particularly illuminating/technical about Jerry's use of synths in his 90s/2000s scores. This group is generally having a blast. And them lavishing praise on an oft-maligned (unfairly) score is just a cherry on top.
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I really appreciated hearing Nick Vidar's recollections of the synths Jerry used on Hollow Man. This was a rare opportunity to get into the nuts and bolts of the score, especially for a composer looking to learn more about scoring practices from the masters.
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Oct 29, 2022 - 12:39 PM
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... Jerry Goldsmith's moody, suspenseful score for the occult-themed Thriller episode "Dark Legacy."
Only just today did I listen to this odyssey podcast from October 2021 on "Dark Legacy".
Apologies that I haven't been listening to these during the past 2 years or I would've responded sooner.
If you don't mind my input on this segment 9 months after you posted it, then please accept my feedback below.
First, watching reruns of STAR TREK & THE OUTER LIMITS since age 12 in 1980 I'm familiar with Harry Townes from "The Return of the Archons" and "O.B.I.T." - so (not to brag, but ...) I recognized him as the elderly occultist in the pre-credits teaser when I first saw THRILLER episodes on DVD in 2010. Regarding his wardrobe, I think the THRILLER production crew intentionally amplified the 'halloween costume' aspects to telegraph the black magic rituals which were infrequently depicted onscreen 60 years ago.
We know that THRILLER started out as a crime jazz series and was reconfigured (based upon Boris Karloff's hosting) to cash-in on the monster craze and hook young audiences.
One of the reasons that "Pigeons from Hell" is a most-remembered classic is no doubt due to its axe mudrer/gore scenes - topics amongst children (for days after its broadcast) across the nation's schoolyards.
I think the superimposed eyes floating around in the smoke to depict a demon from hell in "Dark Legacy" might have freaked out some youngsters in 1961 - much like ST's "The Lights of Zetar" nauseated me the first time I saw it.
As adults we see these things as low budget effects, but - as a child - notions of disembodied heads or eyes can be upsetting/sickening.
Also, I wish to mention that in addition to the regular television censorship standards in place during those times, the overall climate was further thickened by the Catholic Legion of Decency. Pagan rituals, the supernatural, plus much else were considered tabu and rarely portrayed. I think it's very possible that John Tomerlin's script for "Dark Legacy" might have initially contained more 'tabu' scenes or aspects of black magic that may have been hampered or suppressed by the (then-) broadcasting practices ... or fell victim to budgetary constraints.
THRILLER's "La Strega" scenes of a coven's orgy was interpreted as a beatnik ballet! Mustn't show a real witches' coven, ya know?
[as an aside footnote, I find it fascinating that horror film production was forbidden in Italy until around 1956 with items like I Vampiri]
Which brings me to the most important subject: Goldsmith + occult + dodecaphony.
I, too, think that "Dark Legacy" is probably Jerry G.'s first musical depiction of occult subject matter.
Owning about 150 Goldsmith soundtracks, I state with sincerity my favorite 3 are occult-related (The Illustrated Man, The Mephisto Waltz & The Reincarnation of Peter Proud) ... plus we all know the Oscar-win for The Omen. Goldsmith's scores for the supernatural, I feel, are his most significant contributions to cinema.
If I was a filmmaker doing an occult movie during the early '70s, then I would want Goldsmith on its production!
What this podcast didn't mention, though, was that Goldsmith's ascending 'fate' motif sounds 12-tone.
We know that Goldsmith was one of the initial practioners applying/adapting 12-tone techniques in Hollywood - following Leonard Rosenman. Whilst post-WWII modernity from Goldsmith can be heard early on with City of Fear, "Dark Legacy" might well be the first time that a 12-tone musical vocabulary is afixed to pentagrams, spells, etc. just as Rosenman's "And When the Sky Was Opened" for TZ was likely the first time 12-tone music got associated to science-fiction.
I hope "Dark Legacy"'s NovaChord is not the reason why it has not yet been recorded anew.
If there ever is a volume 3 of Goldsmith THRILLER, then "Dark Legacy" along with "Guillotine" will make for a very Horn-y album.
"Dark Legacy" still remains my all time favorite Goldsmith score from "Thriller" , alongside Morton Stevens' "Pigeons From Hell".
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I was surprised that the discussion seemed to indicate that all of the electronics were synthesizer. I'd always assumed that one of the score's signature sounds was an electric violin. Not that I really know what they sound like, but it seems like it's being played like a physical instrument.
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I ran into Carol Goldsmith at a screening of the new Charles Fox doc called "Killing Me Softly With His Songs". Wonderful doc. The subject of The Goldsmith Odyssey was brought up and I mentioned you folks REALLY know your Goldsmith. She did not know about it, but asked this, "Is it respectful?" I said oh yes very respectful and I said you'd be pleased. Thought you may want to know
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I've said the same to Yavar and also here previously...
Carol Goldsmith will be a dream come true to make an interview for the Odyssey!
No one else in this world could possibly share some experiences of a lifetime with him than her. Just imagine...
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I've said the same to Yavar and also here previously...
Carol Goldsmith will be a dream come true to make an interview for the Odyssey!
No one else in this world could possibly share some experiences of a lifetime with him than her. Just imagine...
Oh for sure. That would be amazing!
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