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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7      General Discussion: 58 Dean Street Memories    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3 4 5    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 2:19 AM     By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member) This thing about the composers going in - we had this come up on previous Dean Street/Derek I remember on one thread, someone said that they were in the shop when John Barry was present. Barry happily signed a copy of the boot 'Walkabout' LP    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 6:36 AM     By:   JamesFitz   (Member) Everyone thinks of them as "58 Dean Street Records" but I assume they were really just "Dean Street Records" and happened to make the 58 on the left of their banner a bit too large. Anyone recall if they were they listed in directories as 58 Dean Street Records, or just Dean Street Records? They definitely advertised themselves as "58 Dean Street Records". Most definitely 58 Dean Street Records as I was manager there for 3 years...before Martin and Philip took over after the death of that most outrageous of characters Derek Braeger. I think I ran the shop from 1977 to 1980 ...ish. My memories of working there could fill a small book ... and maybe one day I might commit something to paper about my fabulous time in the record business. But utter-most in my mind are the number of occasions that Derek would throw someone out of the shop just because he didn't like them ... but they would always come back for more abuse or sneak back in when they knew that I was the only one in the shop! And, as we bought many old vinyl collections the many hours I would spend cleaning the LPs with lighter fluid as that was the best way to make each disc look as new (and remove static) and unplayed as possible!! I had to be a wee bit careful though as at the time I smokes cigarettes so was in danger of not only setting the disc and myself alight ... but the whole shop! Oh happy days. And it was thanks to the shop that I got to meet people like Maurice Jarre, Charles Gerhardt, Georges Delerue, Trevor Jones, Anthony Quinn, Martin Scorese etc.....    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 7:15 AM     By:   Timmer   (Member) James, did Delerue actually come into the shop? I was told on one visit that I had just missed him, maybe it was even you who told me?    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 7:21 AM     By:   Timmer   (Member) Where is/was that Flashbacks shop? It doesn't look like the one I used to visit, in Silver Place. Can't really remember - think it was down the street from the current Dress Circle shop. Hope that helps? Alistair It was originally in Covent Garden. You had to go up a red iron spiral staircase as I recall. That was the very first soundtrack shop I discovered, it was called That's Entertainment when I first visited in 1980 ( coinciding with the Filmharmonic concert at the RAH ), I'd done business throughout the late 70's with them by mail-order, they were also very expensive, possibly more so than 58 Dean St?    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 10:40 AM     By:   JamesFitz   (Member) James, did Delerue actually come into the shop? I was told on one visit that I had just missed him, maybe it was even you who told me? He came in the shop a few times Nicest regular customer ever was Brian Blessed ....a real sweety, with whom I got to work on some commercials years later    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 11:29 AM     By:   CinemaScope   (Member) Ahh, the days when lots of interesting shops were around. I used to work around the corner from 58 Dean Street so I used to pop in there a lot, but I must say I miss the big soundtrack department in Tower Records Piccadilly Circus even more. I also loved mooching around the science fiction shop in St Annes Court, Dark They Were & Golden Eyed, it's now, Forbidden Planet, Shaftesbury Avenue, & still a great shop.    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 11:49 AM     By:   Illustrator   (Member) Great to see pictures 58 Dean Street again. Thanks for including Flashbacks, a frequent haunt in the eighties, I bought a number of posters and stills there and vividly remember pausing outside on a walk back from Dean Street Records to read Douglas Trumball's notes on the Brainstorm album cover-odd the things that stick in one's mind.    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 1:07 PM     By:   Timmer   (Member) James, did Delerue actually come into the shop? I was told on one visit that I had just missed him, maybe it was even you who told me? He came in the shop a few times Nicest regular customer ever was Brian Blessed ....a real sweety, with whom I got to work on some commercials years later The man is a national treasure! Did he pick up a copy of THE LAST VALLEY? I'm presuming then that Brian Blessed is a film music fan? Any other famous film score fans pop in James?    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 2:09 PM     By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member) remember James F in the shop - playing his Maurice Jarre when Derek was out!! I knew James from Film Fairs prior to that when he was working for another shop - cant remember which shop/outlet. James who was it, or were you selling your own LPs then? I was in Dean street the day the first copies of Zulu Dawn arrived in a package from the US - I bought the first-UK-played copy of the LP that came out of the box! Still have it to this day. I have to say there was nothing funnier than flicking through the racks while Derek performed, ranting in a loud voice so the rest of the shop could hear and abusing someone with his withering one-liners!! He reminded me of Larry Grayson! Genuinely funny man - as long as you werent on the end of it! After work and lunchtimes I regularly visited there and Thats entertainment at Drury Lane (before they name-changed and moved to covent garden) for a tea or coffee, which was nice touch that Johnny Yap and Patrick did for customers. Mind you, we were paying a lot for LPs there so a free coffee was more than fair!! I was only a teenager then but bumped into Christopher Frayling in there on more than one occasion back then.    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 7:25 PM     By:   Timmer   (Member) thanks for sparking my memory there Miguel, I remember ( finally ) doing business with them at the Drury Lane address, they must have moved to Covent Garden 79/80?    Posted:   May 22, 2011 - 11:59 PM     By:   JamesFitz   (Member) remember James F in the shop - playing his Maurice Jarre when Derek was out!! I knew James from Film Fairs prior to that when he was working for another shop - cant remember which shop/outlet. James who was it, or were you selling your own LPs then? I was in Dean street the day the first copies of Zulu Dawn arrived in a package from the US - I bought the first-UK-played copy of the LP that came out of the box! Still have it to this day. I have to say there was nothing funnier than flicking through the racks while Derek performed, ranting in a loud voice so the rest of the shop could hear and abusing someone with his withering one-liners!! He reminded me of Larry Grayson! Genuinely funny man - as long as you werent on the end of it! After work and lunchtimes I regularly visited there and Thats entertainment at Drury Lane (before they name-changed and moved to covent garden) for a tea or coffee, which was nice touch that Johnny Yap and Patrick did for customers. Mind you, we were paying a lot for LPs there so a free coffee was more than fair!! I was only a teenager then but bumped into Christopher Frayling in there on more than one occasion back then. Before moving down to London I used to work for a shop in Manchester....Rare Records Ltd on John Dalton Street ...so I think I did some film fairs with stock I bought for them. Derek was certainly among London's most outrageous queens. One moment he could be the most thoughtful and kind hearted of men, the next a totally selfish tyrant. I soon became of nervous wreck! In my years at 58 he was sure that I was not really "straight" and made it his mission in life to bring out the "gay" in me. This led to many embarassing moments with some of Derek's gay friends whenever Derek said to them "he's not really straight you know", especially when they were a well known stars who hadn't even come out themselves..... How I remained boringly straight with all those offer of "dates" I will never know! But managing 58 did lead me to working with people like Ed Mason, Michael Jones and of course my great friend David Wishart ....which then led me to team up with Reynold Da Silva to form a record label and the rest is history.....    Posted:   May 23, 2011 - 12:34 AM     By:   dogplant   (Member) Wow, what a blast from the past. I still have a tan and brown 58 Dean Street plastic bag in a cupboard somewhere full of trims from my old Super 8 films. Had no idea of your connection there, James. I'm even more proud now to be a Tadlow customer. This and Forbidden Planet, in its St. Giles + Denmark Street incarnation, were focal points for me in formative years in London.    Posted:   May 23, 2011 - 10:55 AM     By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member) thanks for sparking my memory there Miguel, I remember ( finally ) doing business with them at the Drury Lane address, they must have moved to Covent Garden 79/80? You're welcome Timmer. Had some good times looking through the racks there. Spent a lot on rare LPs back then- would think nothing of paying 30 or 40 pounds for a really choice LP that just wasnt available anywhere else. Budd's Stone Killer springs to mind, which I think was 25. I paid something like that for a Wild Bunch too, long before the aussie re-release came out. A lot of money in 1979-80. Thats Entertainment used to - like Derek - buy up collections - and that was the only way people like me could get really ultra rare stuff- if someone older decided to part with theirs!! Collectors in these days of readily-available CD scores, dont realise how lucky they are and how frustrating it was back then spending years - years - hunting for something you'd heard in a film and simply not having access to it except from your cassette off the telly because the LP was rarer than rocking horse crap, and if was widely-liked, no one ever sold one and every one was after the same LPs. Sabata and Guns For San Sebastian were like that. Took me years to get copies. It was also funny that Derek's business in Dean Street and Thats Entertainment were like the (pardon the pun) the Rojos and the Baxters in Fistful of Dollars - two rivals at each end of town!! I remember being in Dean Street shopping and Derek saying out loud: "You don't go to that other place do you, whatisname, in Drury lane?" (Of course he knew Johnny Yap's name, I think they even did business together even though they gave the impression they were fierce rivals and hated each other - James F would know for sure). And then when I was at Thats Entertainment, Johnny would say: "We do good price for that Morricone, better than Derek!" James, yeah, that was it - rare records. Bought some soundtracks off you either at Ed Mason's film fair (westminster nowadays but back then may have been elsewhere) or the once-a-month one at the ecclestone hotel. Cant recall. Happy days.    Posted:   May 23, 2011 - 11:19 AM     By:   Geoffers   (Member) I bought quite a few LPs there starting in the late 70s. I remember Derek because he refused to accept my Access (later MasterCard) card for the purchase of a £15 LP. "Haven't you got any cash?" he asked. One being told I didn't have enough he requested that I should go and find a machine and draw some cash using my card! However, when I did so and returned he was extremely contrite. The only other time my card was refused was in Miami Beach when the electrical retailer said "it's Sunday!" On another occasion I Saw and heard Derek on the phone telling a customer he had no time for a chat because ? hadn't turned up for work and he had another customer behind the counter, helping out. He was not happy .....    Posted:   May 23, 2011 - 1:24 PM     By:   Timmer   (Member) I visited 58 Dean Street about four times a year over the course of 15+ years and then at the following premises. Face to face I never had a problem with Derek though on the phone was different and he'd been rude to me numerous times, such good memories    Posted:   May 23, 2011 - 1:49 PM     By:   Mike_J   (Member) Collectors in these days of readily-available CD scores, dont realise how lucky they are and how frustrating it was back then spending years - years - hunting for something you'd heard in a film and simply not having access to it except from your cassette off the telly because the LP was rarer than rocking horse crap, and if was widely-liked, no one ever sold one and every one was after the same LPs. Sabata and Guns For San Sebastian were like that. Took me years to get copies. . Actually, I have to say I don't think collecting soundtracks is anywhere near as fun as it used to be back then. Nowadays it is so easy to get hold of a soundtrack album (from either end of the spectrum - official release or bootleg ripped from a dvd) that the challenge is no longer there. I still recall the huge rush of adrenalin I got every time I entered Dean Street in the 80s, the thrill of anticipation flicking through the new releases. There was no internet back then of course and very very few specialist magazines so I rarely if ever knew what to expect. It just isnt the same these days. Just read of of that back to myself and god it makes me sound like an old fart. Heck, I may as well have started the post "You youngsters don't know how easy you have it. Back in my day, sonny......".    Posted:   May 24, 2011 - 3:12 AM     By:   philip*eric   (Member) Everyone thinks of them as "58 Dean Street Records" but I assume they were really just "Dean Street Records" and happened to make the 58 on the left of their banner a bit too large. Anyone recall if they were they listed in directories as 58 Dean Street Records, or just Dean Street Records? They definitely advertised themselves as "58 Dean Street Records". Most definitely 58 Dean Street Records as I was manager there for 3 years...before Martin and Philip took over after the death of that most outrageous of characters Derek Braeger. I think I ran the shop from 1977 to 1980 ...ish. My memories of working there could fill a small book ... and maybe one day I might commit something to paper about my fabulous time in the record business. But utter-most in my mind are the number of occasions that Derek would throw someone out of the shop just because he didn't like them ... but they would always come back for more abuse or sneak back in when they knew that I was the only one in the shop! And, as we bought many old vinyl collections the many hours I would spend cleaning the LPs with lighter fluid as that was the best way to make each disc look as new (and remove static) and unplayed as possible!! I had to be a wee bit careful though as at the time I smokes cigarettes so was in danger of not only setting the disc and myself alight ... but the whole shop! Oh happy days. And it was thanks to the shop that I got to meet people like Maurice Jarre, Charles Gerhardt, Georges Delerue, Trevor Jones, Anthony Quinn, Martin Scorese etc..... James In 1978 was the store called 58 Dean Street ? I ask because I found a journal I kept the 1st time I visited in 1978 and I called it Harlequin Shows and Soundtracks - I am almost sure this was the place I visited again in 1984 as 58 Dean Street. Maybe I just called it by the wrong name . In my journal I wrote - "Go to Harlequin Shows and Soundtracks --- learn of their AMAZING out of print stock- if only I had known before - ask for DR. FAUSTUS and SHOUT AT THE DEVIL - so many others I would like! Afternoon visit to the London Dungeon- worth seeing..." lol    Posted:   May 24, 2011 - 9:49 AM     By:   siriami   (Member) I think that there was a Harlequin in Berwick Street (downstairs if I remember rightly?) There was certainly a record shop there that specialised in import soundtracks. Maybe James can put me right re this? Alistair    Posted:   May 24, 2011 - 10:21 AM     By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member) Philip, I dont think youre wrong. I think they were a Harlequin at one time. I recall plastic bags with that on - the LP shaped ones that we all crammed records into on big buying sprees!! This wouldve been either up to mid-seventies or some such. Im not 100 per cent of this and I could be wrong, its all a bit hazy but it rings a bell. They may have called themselves 58 Dean Street but were known initially among collectors as Dean Street Records - Im sure the 58 thing became a later label as the brand changed/logo changed. whatever. Im sure I recall two older collectors I knew back then, who were working teenagers in early 70s when I was at school - referring to them as Harlequin. Equally I think there may have been another Harlequin elsewhere, like Alistair says, I guess it was some kind of franchise. And I think they were still Harlequin when Derek's shop became Dean Street. I hope somebody remembers more clearly than me. Shops changed names regularly back then, so 3 years under one name/owner/manager was a long time!    Posted:   May 24, 2011 - 10:28 AM     By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member) I definitely remember a Harlequin with an excellent soundtrack selection in the very early 70s. I remember buying Deadfall there, but I can't remember where it was.     General Discussion: 58 Dean Street Memories    << < 1 2 3 4 5  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7

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