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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30      General Discussion: Varese: DRACULA:The Deluxe Edition (John Williams)    FIRST   PRIOR   23 24 25 26 27    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Dec 9, 2018 - 1:15 PM     By:   Johnny W   (Member) The sound of the expanded first disc is very good. Whew! Thank god we now have a good sounding version of the score. However, the sound of the original album presentation on disc 2 is as bad in its way as the original Varese release. Like Mike's mastering of Jane Eyre, the new version reveals more about the tapes than one would like to know/hear. The original release was murky yes, but the clarity of the new version reveals a horribly pitched brightness on almost every track. The "Love Scene" is now the "Squint Scene". I'm keeping both.    Posted:   Dec 9, 2018 - 2:29 PM     By:   Mike Matessino   (Member) The original recording and surviving elements have inherent issues, to be sure, and they were worked with extensively. I didn't master Jane Eyre but it was done at the same studio and by the same engineer originally as Dracula.    Posted:   Dec 9, 2018 - 3:42 PM     By:   Marcato   (Member) The original recording and surviving elements have inherent issues, to be sure, and they were worked with extensively. I didn't master Jane Eyre but it was done at the same studio and by the same engineer originally as Dracula. Could the OST not be re-created from the film score ?    Posted:   Dec 9, 2018 - 5:34 PM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) For whatever its worth, I prefer the new mix of the album to the old CD. Is it everything I could have wanted? Nope, but that's just how things work when you're dealing with old tapes. There is a trade-off, yes, but the muddiness of the old release completely deadened the music to me.    Posted:   Dec 10, 2018 - 12:19 PM     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member) There's no doubt to me that the sound quality on both discs here is MUCH improved over the old Varese CD. I can't believe people hear otherwise. I posted my recent thoughts about this release in the other Dracula thread, but I didn't mention how much I love the extended/unused Love Scene track at the end of disc one. It's just amazingly brilliant.    Posted:   Dec 10, 2018 - 12:31 PM     By:   Mike Matessino   (Member) The original recording and surviving elements have inherent issues, to be sure, and they were worked with extensively. I didn't master Jane Eyre but it was done at the same studio and by the same engineer originally as Dracula. Could the OST not be re-created from the film score ? Not with the same performances, as there were some differences between the two, as is explained in the booklet. No choir for "Night Journeys," for example, on any element other than the album master. Since all copies of the original album master seem to have disappeared, except for the one in the UK, and since it has been out of print for a very long time, it felt important to preserve it and include it as-is.    Posted:   Dec 10, 2018 - 1:25 PM     By:   .   (Member) The sound of the expanded first disc is very good. Whew! Thank god we now have a good sounding version of the score. However, the sound of the original album presentation on disc 2 is as bad in its way as the original Varese release. I find disc 2 a very worthwhile improvement over the old. Only annoyance in the set is the rather intrusive "BEEP!" in both channels at 3:32 of Disc 1, and also (in the right channel only) at the same place in the music on Disc 2. Strange that the same noise should be heard in both channels in one version and just one channel in the other, at the same point.    Posted:   Dec 10, 2018 - 2:41 PM     By:   Martin B.   (Member) The original recording and surviving elements have inherent issues, to be sure, and they were worked with extensively. I didn't master Jane Eyre but it was done at the same studio and by the same engineer originally as Dracula. Could the OST not be re-created from the film score ? Not with the same performances, as there were some differences between the two, as is explained in the booklet. No choir for "Night Journeys," for example, on any element other than the album master. Since all copies of the original album master seem to have disappeared, except for the one in the UK, and since it has been out of print for a very long time, it felt important to preserve it and include it as-is. I for one am glad the OST is also included. Loving this set so much right now - still can’t believe the complete score has been released, even though ive listened to it umpteen times since getting it.    Posted:   Dec 24, 2018 - 11:25 AM     By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member) Very fine pair of booklets in this set. Thanks Bob Townson and Mike Matessino!    Posted:   Dec 24, 2018 - 6:55 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) "It's beautiful...!"    Posted:   Jan 16, 2019 - 10:48 AM     By:   .   (Member) I find disc 2 a very worthwhile improvement over the old. Only annoyance in the set is the rather intrusive "BEEP!" in both channels at 3:32 of Disc 1, and also (in the right channel only) at the same place in the music on Disc 2. Strange that the same noise should be heard in both channels in one version and just one channel in the other, at the same point. Anyone have any ideas what that sound is?    Posted:   Jan 16, 2019 - 11:53 AM     By:   Sirusjr   (Member) Sounds like trumpets to me. I wouldn't call it a beep.    Posted:   Jan 16, 2019 - 12:04 PM     By:   .   (Member) Sounds like trumpets to me. I wouldn't call it a beep. No, I think you must have listened to the wrong bit. Have another listen between 3:31 and 3:32 of disc one. I can't think of a better descriptive word for it than a "beep". Sounds like a beep my microwave makes when my dinner is ready!    Posted:   Jan 16, 2019 - 12:07 PM     By:   Sirusjr   (Member) Thats exactly where I listened. I listened three times and stand by my description of it as trumpets. It is also far too short in length to be like a microwave beep. It barely lasts a fraction of a second.    Posted:   Jan 16, 2019 - 10:54 PM     By:   EdG   (Member) That's a percussion instrument strike - a chime by the sound of it. It happens right at the downbeat.    Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 12:59 AM     By:   Tango Urilla   (Member) Goldsmith had his mixing bowls, Williams had his microwave beeps. The men were pioneers, what's more to be said?    Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 10:35 AM     By:   John Schuermann   (Member) Just played it back on a professional monitoring system. It's clearly an anvil strike.    Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 10:40 AM     By:   SchiffyM   (Member) Just played it back on a professional monitoring system. It's clearly an anvil strike. I just listened on my non-professional monitoring system, and that's what I hear, too.    Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 10:44 AM     By:   John Schuermann   (Member) Just played it back on a professional monitoring system. It's clearly an anvil strike. I just listened on my non-professional monitoring system, and that's what I hear, too. Just proves we have good ears and good speakers. And what a well composed anvil strike it is as well! Williams is a genius.    Posted:   Jan 17, 2019 - 10:49 AM     By:   .   (Member) Just played it back on a professional monitoring system. It's clearly an anvil strike. Then isn't it some kind of mis-strike? If, say, Tadlow re-recorded the piece, would they want to replicate and include that exact "beep" sound? I don't think so. Where's James Fitz when he's needed!     General Discussion: Varese: DRACULA:The Deluxe Edition (John Williams)    << < 23 24 25 26 27  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30

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