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 Posted:   Mar 12, 2010 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Just watched this movie. A fantastic score by Alan Silvestri, and he's growing to become among my favorite composers. I picked up the Varese CD for cheap several months ago, and I ought to pull it out and give it a spin now.

Is there any score material that's not on the Varese disc? If so, perhaps La-La Land could do an Expanded Archival Collection release... although between Dutch and Eraser expanded, I think I'll have my fill of Silvestri for a while.


There is A LOT of music not on that Varese CD. Those were the days when we were lucky to get 30 mins of score.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2010 - 5:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Just watched this movie. A fantastic score by Alan Silvestri, and he's growing to become among my favorite composers. I picked up the Varese CD for cheap several months ago, and I ought to pull it out and give it a spin now.

Is there any score material that's not on the Varese disc? If so, perhaps La-La Land could do an Expanded Archival Collection release... although between Dutch and Eraser expanded, I think I'll have my fill of Silvestri for a while.


There is A LOT of music not on that Varese CD. Those were the days when we were lucky to get 30 mins of score.

James


Ah....good days!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I just watched this "potboiler" from 1991, and it's not without its values. Both Washington and Lithgow deliver solid peformances, although Lithgow is always a little over-the-top in his bad guy roles. Ice-T is pretty funny as a "benign" drug lord too. smile

I always get a kick out of these "come-back" movies where the protagonist's life is taken away from him bit by bit, but where he ultimately pulls his shit together and justice is served in the end.

Silvestri's score is - as previously mentioned - pure Herrmann pastiche. The opening titles, in particular, sounds like it was culled from NORTH BY NORTHWEST or something.

I couldn't hear the "Nazi bookstore" music in the actual scene, however. Was it cut from the movie?


That was probably source music. Probably something that was playing in the background on a radio during that Nazi bookstore scene in the film. Where Denzel was beating up the rascist bookstore owner to get answers about Lithgow's character. I'm not sure though. Plus Silvestri wrote music for that actual scene, which was pretty loud as most of the score. So it's probably hard to hear the "Nazi Bookstore" playing. But I don't know. I haven't seen it in a few months.

Well it proves that he can write a Nazi theme for the upcoming Captain America movie.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

You can buy this score from Screen Archives for five dollars!

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/1905/RICOCHET/

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

WORTH IT.

That Main Title is a mean sumbitch.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 6:10 PM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

*points up to two separate posts I made*

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 7:22 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I have always loved Silvestri's music, and I still find immense value of the scores he's composed in the past few years, but part of me feels like "he just doesn't write music like Ricochet anymore," said with more than a hint of nostalgia and longing.

Listening to "Blake Gets the Point" right now...I just don't hear anything like this from him anymore...I'm not lamenting composers changing, because it's inevitable and welcome. I'm really not lamenting anything here, I guess I'm just saying I wish he'd score Richochet 2!

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

I have always loved Silvestri's music, and I still find immense value of the scores he's composed in the past few years, but part of me feels like "he just doesn't write music like Ricochet anymore," said with more than a hint of nostalgia and longing.

Listening to "Blake Gets the Point" right now...I just don't hear anything like this from him anymore...I'm not lamenting composers changing, because it's inevitable and welcome. I'm really not lamenting anything here, I guess I'm just saying I wish he'd score Richochet 2!


Absolutely. I wonder what happened to him and James B. Campbell? I don't think he orchestrated Ricochet, but anyway-- I have thoughts like yours about Silvestri's music these days as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   Redokt64   (Member)

RICOCHET ranks as one of my most played scores of all time. I literally drove people crazy with it. Constantly playing. Car. Home. You name it.

Though I still think Alan Silvestri provides good scores even today. Let's face it, his music is 100 % better than most of the junk heard currently heard with film now.

The last Silvestri score that really knocked my socks off... THE MUMMY RETURNS. Awesome score.

My favorite period... the 80's/early 90's. His music at that point was more energetic. Complex. Fresh sounding. Every time I knew he was scoring something, I just drooled (scary thought) at the fact... "is there going to be a score release?"

Anyhow, back to RICOCHET... great, classic action score by Alan Silvestri. Guess what I am going to listen to now... Thanks. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2011 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

You can buy this score from Screen Archives for five dollars!

http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/1905/RICOCHET/


Or you can buy it from ME for the same price! It's currently on my sales list.

 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2011 - 10:47 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I couldn't hear the "Nazi bookstore" music in the actual scene, however. Was it cut from the movie?

While "Nazi Bookstore" is a good piece of music, it has absolutely no place in this score or film. It's completely against the tone of the score and film, both of which are dark, bleak, aggressive, and violent experiences in my view. If it was cut from the movie, I'm glad it was...I can't imagine that music, full of pomp and positive energy, finding a place anywhere in this film. I always thought it was a strangely out-of-place cue even way back when I first started listening to this album in the early 90's. At least "Drunken Nick," which is also very much against the tone of the film, is subdued enough to work within the context of the movie.

Of course, it's been a long time since I've seen the film, so maybe there are elements to it (or parts of the score not on the Varese album) that would make a cue like "Nazi Bookstore" more consistent with the project.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 13, 2011 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I have always loved Silvestri's music, and I still find immense value of the scores he's composed in the past few years, but part of me feels like "he just doesn't write music like Ricochet anymore," said with more than a hint of nostalgia and longing.

Listening to "Blake Gets the Point" right now...I just don't hear anything like this from him anymore...I'm not lamenting composers changing, because it's inevitable and welcome. I'm really not lamenting anything here, I guess I'm just saying I wish he'd score Richochet 2!

I couldn't hear the "Nazi bookstore" music in the actual scene, however. Was it cut from the movie?

While "Nazi Bookstore" is a good piece of music, it has absolutely no place in this score or film. It's completely against the tone of the score and film, both of which are dark, bleak, aggressive, and violent experiences in my view. If it was cut from the movie, I'm glad it was...I can't imagine that music, full of pomp and positive energy, finding a place anywhere in this film. I always thought it was a strangely out-of-place cue even way back when I first started listening to this album in the early 90's. At least "Drunken Nick," which is also very much against the tone of the film, is subdued enough to work within the context of the movie.

Of course, it's been a long time since I've seen the film, so maybe there are elements to it (or parts of the score not on the Varese album) that would make a cue like "Nazi Bookstore" more consistent with the project.


I agree with exactly every word you said. I listened to this Sunday and thought the same thing. What happened to this side of Silvestri that we don't hear often or anymore. Probably b/c of the way Hollywood treats film music today. They limit and micromanage their composers to write to the least of their talents and abilities.

I also agree with that "Nazi Bookstore" cue being out of place from the rest of score. I remember thinking confused when I first heard it. I think that probably could be a source cue.

I would definitely like an expanded C&C release for this score. B/c some cues sound different from the music in the actual film like "Nick Styles Show" and "Blake Gets The Point". But it's been a few months since I last saw the movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 21, 2011 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Jon Lewis   (Member)

What a knockout this score is! I just heard it for the first time.

I'd file this with ON DANGEROUS GROUND and CALL OF DUTY (Giacchino) and very few others under "irresistible, overwhelming symphonic fury". ("with anvils")

Wow.

 
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