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 Posted:   Dec 19, 2020 - 10:10 PM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

It is impressive how unremarkable and bland the score for this series is.
The only times it makes an impression is when uses the ludicrous Mandalorian theme (from Creed) and when finaly recicles Williams' material in the last episode.
What a missed oportunity!


Obviously you're not paying attention to the music because the last episode is not the first time Goransson quoted a Williams theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 2:25 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

It is impressive how unremarkable and bland the score for this series is.
The only times it makes an impression is when uses the ludicrous Mandalorian theme (from Creed) and when finaly recicles Williams' material in the last episode.
What a missed oportunity!


Again with the Creed thing? Your hearing is apparently in need of a doctor.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Fine for those that enjoy the score, I think its literately one of the worst things Ive ever heard in my life.
And not because it doesn't sound like Star Wars. I'm not being hyperbolic either.

,

I'll agree. I tried to give it time, listened to the music apart from the series ( only the first two episodes, by then why pay for music I'm not enjoying? ), and in context with the series, and damn, it ranges from mediocre to (usually ) awful.

After the 2nd season premier, that was enough for me to just cancel the Disney + subscription. The massive love for the show just befuddles me. I guess it feeds into the whole Boba Fett Fetish thing which also just passes me by razz

Aside from wasting Timothy Olyphant , that scene with Space Raylan & Mando flying across the desert on their speeder bikes - with roaring wind - and the roar of the engines - and Mando-dude still wearing his helmet -while they have a relaxed conversation without raising their voices - is a good example of how clumsy the whole thing is and why I just couldn't faceplam hard enough each epsiode razz

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 5:42 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

It is impressive how unremarkable and bland the score for this series is.
The only times it makes an impression is when uses the ludicrous Mandalorian theme (from Creed) and when finaly recicles Williams' material in the last episode.
What a missed oportunity!


Obviously you're not paying attention to the music because the last episode is not the first time Goransson quoted a Williams theme.


This just reinforce how bland the music is even when he used Williams's themes... Thanks.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

It is impressive how unremarkable and bland the score for this series is.
The only times it makes an impression is when uses the ludicrous Mandalorian theme (from Creed) and when finaly recicles Williams' material in the last episode.
What a missed oportunity!


Again with the Creed thing? Your hearing is apparently in need of a doctor.


Well, I could say the same to you, but I am a polite human being.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Fine for those that enjoy the score, I think its literately one of the worst things Ive ever heard in my life.
And not because it doesn't sound like Star Wars. I'm not being hyperbolic either.


Yes, it is really that bad. You are right.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Fine for those that enjoy the score, I think its literately one of the worst things Ive ever heard in my life.
And not because it doesn't sound like Star Wars. I'm not being hyperbolic either.


Who knew that we'd find common ground on anything, but here's a rare moment where I get to share in your negative evaluation of something.

I try to block out the music when I watch it, because I absolutely LOVE the series itself.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 6:49 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

To read some of the hysterical comments here, you'd think LG's scores to this series were on a par with Dave Brubeck's replacement score to ORDEAL BY INNOCENCE, in its ill-fitting incompetence.
Worst thing ever heard?
Having to tune it out so it doesn't ruin the viewing experience...REALLY?
Get a grip people!
It almost reads like a personal vendetta against the composer.
I'm of the opinion that it works really well in the series, but not so much as a stand alone listening experience, although even then there are sporadic high points and the End Titles are fantastic.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

To read some of the hysterical comments here, you'd think LG's scores to this series were on a par with Dave Brubeck's replacement score to ORDEAL BY INNOCENCE, in its ill-fitting incompetence.
Worst thing ever heard?
Having to tune it out so it doesn't ruin the viewing experience...REALLY?
Get a grip people!
It almost reads like a personal vendetta against the composer.
I'm of the opinion that it works really well in the series, but not so much as a stand alone listening experience, although even then there are sporadic high points and the End Titles are fantastic.


I guess I'll throw my two cents into the debate.

I have nothing against Goransson as a composer. In fact, I haven't listened to any of his scores other than The Mandalorian. I saw Creed once and was honestly too involved into the performances to even listen for the score. Also, I have nothing against non-Williams music in the franchise. Personally, I think Giacchino's score for Rogue One is far better than most of Williams' music for the sequel trilogy.

That being said...

While the main theme eventually grew on me, I find the music for The Mandalorian to be boring and bland as well. Even in most action sequences, I feel it lacks life and urgency, and it's actually diminished the on-screen action for me. In this season, there are only 2-3 pieces that caught my attention in a good way, and both contained variations on Din Djarin's theme and Moff Gideon's theme--the escape from the mess hall in "The Believer", the infiltration on Gideon's cruiser and the duel between Djarin and Gideon from "The Rescue".

When I've listened to the episodic soundtracks, on more than one occasion I've found myself thinking "I guess his movie scores must be radically different because I can't imagine this kind of music winning an Academy Award".

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

To read some of the hysterical comments here, you'd think LG's scores to this series were on a par with Dave Brubeck's replacement score to ORDEAL BY INNOCENCE, in its ill-fitting incompetence.
Worst thing ever heard?
Having to tune it out so it doesn't ruin the viewing experience...REALLY?
Get a grip people!
It almost reads like a personal vendetta against the composer.
I'm of the opinion that it works really well in the series, but not so much as a stand alone listening experience, although even then there are sporadic high points and the End Titles are fantastic.


Calm down, mate.

You are too hysterical.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Fine for those that enjoy the score, I think its literately one of the worst things Ive ever heard in my life.
And not because it doesn't sound like Star Wars. I'm not being hyperbolic either.

,

I'll agree. I tried to give it time, listened to the music apart from the series ( only the first two episodes, by then why pay for music I'm not enjoying? ), and in context with the series, and damn, it ranges from mediocre to (usually ) awful.

After the 2nd season premier, that was enough for me to just cancel the Disney + subscription. The massive love for the show just befuddles me. I guess it feeds into the whole Boba Fett Fetish thing which also just passes me by razz

Aside from wasting Timothy Olyphant , that scene with Space Raylan & Mando flying across the desert on their speeder bikes - with roaring wind - and the roar of the engines - and Mando-dude still wearing his helmet -while they have a relaxed conversation without raising their voices - is a good example of how clumsy the whole thing is and why I just couldn't faceplam hard enough each epsiode razz


It never feels likel Mando is in any jeopardy. The characters are very bland. They tell the same stories over and over again without any development. Season 2 opener was the same story as the season one episode where Mando had to kill a beast and take its egg to make a trade. I find the series a bit mean spirited too. I read a character killed off in season one, who was shot in the chest at point blank range is coming back, I guess girl power and all. Mando took out a whole group of assassin's in a first season episode and apparently they were just knocked out. At least Mando really killed someone in the season 2 opener. The acting is atrocious too, like the lady operating the service bay with the little droids. It feels like fan fiction. It's amazingly mediocre.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

It never feels likel Mando is in any jeopardy. The characters are very bland. They tell the same stories over and over again without any development. Season 2 opener was the same story as the season one episode where Mando had to kill a beast and take its egg to make a trade. I find the series a bit mean spirited too. I read a character killed off in season one, who was shot in the chest at point blank range is coming back, I guess girl power and all. Mando took out a whole group of assassin's in a first season episode and apparently they were just knocked out. At least Mando really killed someone in the season 2 opener. The acting is atrocious too, like the lady operating the service bay with the little droids. It feels like fan fiction. It's amazingly mediocre.

Indeed, I agree with you 100%.
Every episode is the same, with Mando forced to do a side quest in order to move the plot foward.
Plus, they never decide if the protagonist is a bad ass cold blood bounty hunter or a soft heart flawed warrior.
And I always cringed every time he alwaked around with baby Yoda in daylight even knowing he is the most wanted creature in the universe! It is just plain stupid!

Only the last 4 episodes of the second season transmited some real emotion and danger but mainly because the series connects with the Star Wars universe besides obvious easter eggs and dumb quotes from it.

And the score is just atrocious, especially the main theme. And I like other Goranson's score, like "Creed" and "Black Panther".

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It never feels likel Mando is in any jeopardy. The characters are very bland. They tell the same stories over and over again without any development. Season 2 opener was the same story as the season one episode where Mando had to kill a beast and take its egg to make a trade. I find the series a bit mean spirited too. I read a character killed off in season one, who was shot in the chest at point blank range is coming back, I guess girl power and all. Mando took out a whole group of assassin's in a first season episode and apparently they were just knocked out. At least Mando really killed someone in the season 2 opener. The acting is atrocious too, like the lady operating the service bay with the little droids. It feels like fan fiction. It's amazingly mediocre.

Indeed, I agree with you 100%.
Every episode is the same, with Mando forced to do a side quest in order to move the plot foward.
Plus, they never decide if the protagonist is a bad ass cold blood bounty hunter or a soft heart flawed warrior.
And I always cringed every time he alwaked around with baby Yoda in daylight even knowing he is the most wanted creature in the universe! It is just plain stupid!

Only the last 4 episodes of the second season transmited some real emotion and danger but mainly because the series connects with the Star Wars universe besides obvious easter eggs and dumb quotes from it.

And the score is just atrocious, especially the main theme. And I like other Goranson's score, like "Creed" and "Black Panther".


Never saw or heard Creed. It sounds like a midi version of the Rocky theme which is embarrassingly out of place in this series.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:31 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Never saw or heard Creed. It sounds like a midi version of the Rocky theme which is embarrassingly out of place in this series.

Well, just listen then...

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Okay, you win - the score is horrible and totally like CREED, everybody saying something different is wrong, and you should definitely post as many times as possible whenever someone dares to disagree.

So, happy holidays!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

To read some of the hysterical comments here, you'd think LG's scores to this series were on a par with Dave Brubeck's replacement score to ORDEAL BY INNOCENCE, in its ill-fitting incompetence.
Worst thing ever heard?
Having to tune it out so it doesn't ruin the viewing experience...REALLY?
Get a grip people!
It almost reads like a personal vendetta against the composer.
I'm of the opinion that it works really well in the series, but not so much as a stand alone listening experience, although even then there are sporadic high points and the End Titles are fantastic.


There are a few moments that worked, in the season 2 opener there was an establishing shot as Mando and Space Raylan were traveling along that had effective scoring. But for me the music never really does anything to sell the emotion, action, tension. I don't mind the idea of going for the "spaghetti western" vibe, but Goransson - aside from the main theme - just doesn't seem to be able to enhance the onscreen action. Or it could be his instructions are to avoid really accenting what we see. Given that the creative team wants a very specific vibe for the show may well have nixed anything resembling traditional scoring.

But again, I've not liked anything I've heard from Goransson so far. To be fair aside from this series, I only know his Black Panther score and Tenet, which for me didn't work at all. Maybe we're just oil and water.



 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Okay, you win - the score is horrible and totally like CREED, everybody saying something different is wrong, and you should definitely post as many times as possible whenever someone dares to disagree.

So, happy holidays!




I won!

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

Been loving this series, can't wait for more episodes. Well don't Ludwig man! Whoo whooo!

You want positivity? I give the reliable drivingmissdaisy! Bless you!

I read a character killed off in season one, who was shot in the chest at point blank range is coming back, I guess girl power and all.

You mean the character who had the most foreshadowed return since Darth Vader?

I guess it's true that killing "main" characters gives "stakes". But there have been a lot of shows that didn't kill of characters. It's a fairly modern trope. The Mandalorian is basically Kung Fu with blasters and lightsabers.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   Stalker Vigil   (Member)

To read some of the hysterical comments here, you'd think LG's scores to this series were on a par with Dave Brubeck's replacement score to ORDEAL BY INNOCENCE, in its ill-fitting incompetence.
Worst thing ever heard?
Having to tune it out so it doesn't ruin the viewing experience...REALLY?
Get a grip people!
It almost reads like a personal vendetta against the composer.
I'm of the opinion that it works really well in the series, but not so much as a stand alone listening experience, although even then there are sporadic high points and the End Titles are fantastic.


Well, maybe music not so good or maybe some people just have not enough creative thinking while they listen this soundtrack? I don't know, and have no negative to them and their opinions. I love the soundtrack for the first season, and like the music for the second a little less. And after watching the last episode I absolutly love the second season!

Anyway, I love the new approcach that Ludwig gives to music of Star Wars Universe and can't wait to see what will be in the next movies and series that was announced.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2020 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

It is impressive how unremarkable and bland the score for this series is.
The only times it makes an impression is when uses the ludicrous Mandalorian theme (from Creed) and when finaly recicles Williams' material in the last episode.
What a missed oportunity!


Obviously you're not paying attention to the music because the last episode is not the first time Goransson quoted a Williams theme.


This just reinforce how bland the music is even when he used Williams's themes... Thanks.


No, it does not. So you're not welcome.

 
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