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 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

I began listening to LaLa's "The Challenge". I stopped after Track Two(2) "The Wrong Sword"-

totally missing are the steel mixing bowls????? There absince for me totally ruins this brilliant cue.

Either LaLa should have a recall of this flawed remaster, or I am going to return both copies for a

refund.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 11:04 PM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

Oh my dicky ticker!
What about "Fish Market"?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 11:11 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Oh my dicky ticker!
What about "Fish Market"?



Don't know only listened thru Track 2. I was pissed so went no further.

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Here's the cue with the mixing bowls:



It's part of the underlining melody for at least 20 seconds (unless I missed it elsewhere); it would be very odd and out of place to play the cue and it not be there.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2013 - 11:55 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


Don't know only listened thru Track 2. I was pissed so went no further.



Have you checked the notes? There might be an explanation.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 12:19 AM   
 By:   T.J. Turner   (Member)

Steel Mixing Bowls? Is that what they are really called?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 12:49 AM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)


Don't know only listened thru Track 2. I was pissed so went no further.



Have you checked the notes? There might be an explanation.


I did Mr Bond states " Hideo's gunman cut off Toshio's van in an alley (at 2:38) with piano and steel mixing bowls joining in over strings and brass........................"

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Can you tell if its missing from any other tracks?

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 2:40 AM   
 By:   Steve H   (Member)

I haven't listened to this in a while but I only remember the mixing
bowls being in the cues The Wrong Sword and The Fish Market.
Seriously, this is a bit disturbing since its one of those brilliantly giddy
moments only Goldsmith was capable of.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 3:14 AM   
 By:   Mister L   (Member)

We should remember here that there´s no such thing as a perfect release, so move along....

Oh, i totally forgot i´m obsessive about these things what comes to Goldsmith, but maybe i´ve learned my lesson from previous threads.

Let´s see if this thread will also be filled with angry comments against OP.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 3:36 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

We should remember here that there´s no such thing as perfect release, so move along....

There's also no such thing as a perfect poster... ;-)

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Glad I didn't order this yet!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 4:08 AM   
 By:   .   (Member)


Seriously, this is a bit disturbing since its one of those brilliantly giddish
moments only Goldsmith was capable of.




I agree. I have the old release, so it was touch and go whether I needed to go for the latest one, but I decided to order it. But tonight's news is making me wonder if I should cancel it :-(

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 5:09 AM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)


Seriously, this is a bit disturbing since its one of those brilliantly giddish
moments only Goldsmith was capable of.




I agree. I have the old release, so it was touch and go whether I needed to go for the latest one, but I decided to order it. But tonight's news is making me wonder if I should cancel it :-(



I assure you will not like the LaLa, but go ahead if you want something half baked

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 5:25 AM   
 By:   Warren   (Member)

Yeah.

Is there any news from La La?

I need to know fairly quickly whether to cancel my order or if they'll be sending out corrected replacements to all customers anyway (in which case I can just wait).

I'm kinda surprised they've not jumped on her quicker.

frown

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 6:20 AM   
 By:   Bishop   (Member)

Just would like to add that our heroes at La-La Land, Intrada, FSM, Kritzerland, Quartet, ... are still human beings and therefore errors can happen and (unfortunately) will happen.

That said I think it would help a lot if the discussion would not be led in such an aggressive tone.
Also please keep in mind that "our" small labels just don't have have the financial resources like the big ones.

So a complete recall of a flawed pressing, might be a bit much for them to stem and in the worst case could end with the label closing it's doors forever. Just checkout MV's posting about how a slight oversight concerning the licensing costs of "Battlestar Galactica - Season 4" in his own words "nearly crippled the company"! frown
(6th page in this thread: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=94920)

IMHO it was FSM that found a rather good solution to this kind of problem by offering the correct version on one of their later CDs. Of course this meant to buy spent more money but 1) it usually was a CD I'd have bought anyway and 2) I rather have it this way then the label not being abel to produce anymore soundtrack gems.

Of course that's just my two pennies' worth. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 6:34 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)



IMHO it was FSM that found a rather good solution to this kind of problem by offering the correct version on one of their later CDs. Of course this meant to buy spent more money but 1) it usually was a CD I'd have bought anyway and 2) I rather have it this way then the label not being abel to produce anymore soundtrack gems.

Of course that's just my two pennies' worth. wink


Yes, just put it on the next Goldsmith release.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 6:39 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I've got the Prometheus release and see no need to spend more money 'upgrading' to this release. Happy to pass.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 7:00 AM   
 By:   Kim Peterson   (Member)

Yeah.

Is there any news from La La?

I need to know fairly quickly whether to cancel my order or if they'll be sending out corrected replacements to all customers anyway (in which case I can just wait).

I'm kinda surprised they've not jumped on her quicker.

frown


It is very early in morning in CA, they will respond. I was going to purchase if sound was better than Prometheus. I am not one to buy same score twice, but this is very good score. I hope they explain and make right if this is the case or I will just stay with the Prometheus.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2013 - 8:09 AM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Simply put: The Prometheus one used the WRONG TAKE. The La-La Land one used the correct takes - Takes 5 and 7. Why the Prometheus one is incorrect is anyone's guess (most likely it was the Prometheus album's producer, Ford A Thaxton's preference) . This is something we discovered when working on the album late in the game and forgot to have Jeff revise his notes. We didn't include the Prometheus one on this release because I simply didn't think it was that big of a deal.

So, to sum it up:

Promethus WRONG
La-La Land RIGHT

smile

Now go back to dying eggs

MV

 
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