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 Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 2:52 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • The nostalgia bug has finally hit the film score fan community. As long as I hear something I love from the past its all peaches and cream. Amazing!

    This depends on context. When needledropping is used to imbue a sense of nostalgia, then it's a bit suspect, but if used to give new meaning to the scene and music at once, I say go for it. Frankly, there might be a bit much of stringent gatekeeping regarding whether it counts as nostalgia or not.

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     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 3:19 PM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    it's the OPPOSITE of lazy; a progressive, active move to let the music have a more pronounced presence in the fictional universe.

    wow! so many years listening to and collecting film music, defending composers' views, personalities, intended scores, fights between composers and sound designers or producers messing with the scores... and the day when we say that about TEMP-TRACKING has come smile

    I presume you people loved Vertigo's use in THE ARTIST and things like that

    anyway, did you see the series? So we can talk properly... Take two intro scenes. Ep 1 with Julia Roberts as a kind of psychiatrist with a patient and we hear ... DRESSED TO KILL erotic theme? Ep 5 with Roberts entering a mall for some purchase of makeups and we hear... BODY DOUBLE (again that erotic touch with the voices...). And so on for 30 different scores. Where's the narrative? Are we just in for the mood?


    The nostalgia bug has finally hit the film score fan community. As long as I hear something I love from the past its all peaches and cream. Amazing!


    Serious question - would you prefer the bland noodlings this would get instead?

    I commented on this earlier. No, I don't prefer needle dropping over bland noodling. Neither are desirable.

     
     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 4:03 PM   
     By:   spielboy   (Member)

    it's actually 1:1 aspecto ratio... quite jarring, yeah, specially for the long running time... but in episode 9 (I think) they "explain" it in a WONDERFUL trick


    When needledropping is used to imbue a sense of nostalgia, then it's a bit suspect, but if used to give new meaning to the scene and music at once, I say go for it.


    but if that "new meaning" is because you recognize the cue and the original movie... isnt that nostalgia too (kind of)?

    is DRESSED TO CUE opening cue adding a "new meaning" to the scene??

    was Hason's symphony peace in ALIEN nice? sure... but made any dramatic and narrative sense along with Goldsmith score? I dont think so

     
     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 5:14 PM   
     By:   solium   (Member)

    In general I really don't like the idea of "lifting" sections of an artists work and incorporating into something else. Would anyone be okay with lifting passages from a classic novel and placing it in another novel? Or cutting and pasting portions of a classic painting into another painting?

     
     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 6:25 PM   
     By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

    In general I really don't like the idea of "lifting" sections of an artists work and incorporating into something else. Would anyone be okay with lifting passages from a classic novel and placing it in another novel? Or cutting and pasting portions of a classic painting into another painting?

    Those are works that are an end unto themselves, whereas a film score is accompanying images onscreen. It could be considered similar to using music composed for a ballet, such as The Nutcracker, and placing that music against onscreen images that have no connection to the ballet itself.

     
     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 6:44 PM   
     By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

    Tom is correct.
    In fact many ballets and dance performances use pre-existing music. Not to mention ice skating routines.
    Brm

     
     Posted:   Nov 9, 2018 - 6:48 PM   
     By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

    btw i haven't seen the show so why am i commenting?

     
     Posted:   Nov 10, 2018 - 1:26 PM   
     By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

    Music supervisor interview on AV-TV-cLUB.com

     
     Posted:   Nov 10, 2018 - 1:28 PM   
     By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

    I didn't like VERTIGO in THE ARTIST.
    Otherwise a fine film and score.

     
     Posted:   Nov 10, 2018 - 2:18 PM   
     By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • but if that "new meaning" is because you recognize the cue and the original movie... isnt that nostalgia too (kind of)?

    is DRESSED TO CUE opening cue adding a "new meaning" to the scene??

    was Hason's symphony peace in ALIEN nice? sure... but made any dramatic and narrative sense along with Goldsmith score? I dont think so


    That's why the accusation of nostalgia is shaky ground at best. Individual experiences/COUGHdictatesCOUGH may indicate preference, but they're not universal by any means. I was introduced to certain works due to needledropping, but due to listening to film scores outside of the films, I'm not obliged to recall instances in certain works (sometimes even if I tried really hard).

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