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 Posted:   Aug 8, 2014 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Leaving soon for a brief holiday, so better sooner than later, I guess.
First samples from the score are available at http://www.marco-beltrami.com

Don't forget to pre-order your CDs ;-)

 
 Posted:   Aug 14, 2014 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Has anyone seen the movie yet?


http://www.indiewire.com/article/academy-award-nominated-composer-marco-beltrami-on-scoring-the-dystopias-of-snowpiercer-and-the-giver-20140814

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2014 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Gave it a listen today on Spotify, and damn... what a fine score! Beltrami's best in some time. Even though he had a busy year in 2013 and thought most of his output was somewhat disappointing (especially Wolverine and Carrie).

But The Giver is great, nice to hear a more lyrical score by Beltrami. With this one he proves ones again that he's one of most talented composers of this time

 
 Posted:   Aug 15, 2014 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

Few more samples (including two unreleased cues) are available on Marco's official website:

http://www.marcobeltrami.com/the-giver

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 2:48 AM   
 By:   Olivier_Lille   (Member)

Aren't the first notes from the choir in 'Main Titles' a nod to 'Close Encounters of the Third Kind' ? :-p

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 5:03 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Gave it a listen today on Spotify, and damn... what a fine score! Beltrami's best in some time. Even though he had a busy year in 2013 and thought most of his output was somewhat disappointing (especially Wolverine and Carrie).

The Wolverine disappointing? I'm glad we heard different soundtracks because I felt that score was one of his most engaging and adventurous.

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 5:46 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

I would say that The Giver sits alongside The Invisible (reigning champ), I am Dina, 1864, Angel Eyes, The Sessions and Soul Surfer as one of the most beautiful scores Beltrami has written in his career so far.

Having said that, it also has some tremendously thrilling action/adventure music in it as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   Trent Easton Navarro   (Member)

Gave it a listen today on Spotify, and damn... what a fine score! Beltrami's best in some time. Even though he had a busy year in 2013 and thought most of his output was somewhat disappointing (especially Wolverine and Carrie).

The Wolverine disappointing? I'm glad we heard different soundtracks because I felt that score was one of his most engaging and adventurous.


I think my expectations were a bit too high. I was hoping for something that was as kick-ass as Blade II. Maybe I should give it another spin

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Lokutus   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 11:23 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I think my expectations were a bit too high. I was hoping for something that was as kick-ass as Blade II. Maybe I should give it another spin

Now we're on to something! Blade II is still my favorite from Beltrami and it does indeed kick-so-much-ass! I always describe The Wolverine as a "somber Blade II." I find the action material just as thrilling as what Beltrami accomplishes on the del Toro film (though nothing competes with "Charge of the Light Grenade") and the elegiac material is very somber and recalls moments of Blade II though not with as much lyrical beauty like can be found in "Nyssa Over Easy." My go-to tracks for a re-evaluation of The Wolverine would be "Euthanasia," "The Wolverine," "The Hidden Fortress," "Sword of Vengeance," and "Where To?" The Wolverine does throw in a lot of suspense-driven filler, and I don't think the album is as perfect as that original swift and furious Blade II which Varese released over a decade ago (holy cow!) but I do vote for confidence in you giving it another spin! Happy listening! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 16, 2014 - 5:13 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

The Giver isn't a bad score but I found his themes to be a bit too simplistic and lacking in originality. Sure he wrote and used a couple of different themes here but they were not really memorable. There are so many more beautiful scores from other composers that even though this might be some of Beltrami's best work it still pales in comparison.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 5:01 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

The Giver isn't a bad score but I found his themes to be a bit too simplistic and lacking in originality. Sure he wrote and used a couple of different themes here but they were not really memorable. There are so many more beautiful scores from other composers that even though this might be some of Beltrami's best work it still pales in comparison.

Out of curiosity, did you listen to the entire commercially released score, or hear the music in the film?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 5:35 AM   
 By:   stay-puft   (Member)

The Giver isn't a bad score but I found his themes to be a bit too simplistic and lacking in originality. Sure he wrote and used a couple of different themes here but they were not really memorable. There are so many more beautiful scores from other composers that even though this might be some of Beltrami's best work it still pales in comparison.

Out of curiosity, did you listen to the entire commercially released score, or hear the music in the film?


is there a difference?

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

The Giver isn't a bad score but I found his themes to be a bit too simplistic and lacking in originality. Sure he wrote and used a couple of different themes here but they were not really memorable. There are so many more beautiful scores from other composers that even though this might be some of Beltrami's best work it still pales in comparison.

Out of curiosity, did you listen to the entire commercially released score, or hear the music in the film?


is there a difference?


Is there a difference between the commercially released score and the score as heard in the film? About 35 minutes of music worth of difference, yes. Not to mention seeing how the music plays with image and narrative. The music on the album is of course the same music that's in the film. But that wasn't the point of my question to sirusjr.

I was curious if sirusjr was determining his opinion based on a solid and fair appreciation of the commercial album or music as heard in film, or merely based on samples available on various websites. For all I know he listened to the entire album, I was just wondering if he did.

Maybe I phrased my question insufficiently. Instead of saying "Out of curiosity, did you listen to the entire commercially released score, or hear the music in the film?" I should have asked "Out of curiosity, did you listen to the entire commercially released score or hear the music in the film, or did you listen to available samples from the score?"

I'm not jumping to conclusions as to what sirusjr is basing his opinion on, that's why I asked him, and out of curiosity. However, a lot of people on this site feel they can judge the merits and quality of a score outright based on 30-60 second samples, and since I disagreed with sirusjr's take on Beltrami's score for The Giver I thought I'd follow up on his post.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Yeah I've listened to the score album a few times. Though I barely finished it because it has a few slow parts in the middle. I'm not watching any modern films in theaters for the rest of the year (though not sure if this one will get a rental later) but I think I can fairly judge the quality of a score by a few listens of the album. I like that Beltrami wrote a few themes but in general the score doesn't hit any of the same emotional notes as say Los Manos de mi Madre (Pascal Gaigne) a score to a film I have also not seen but that works gorgeously from the start.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 4:50 PM   
 By:   DeputyRiley   (Member)

Yeah I've listened to the score album a few times. Though I barely finished it because it has a few slow parts in the middle. I'm not watching any modern films in theaters for the rest of the year (though not sure if this one will get a rental later) but I think I can fairly judge the quality of a score by a few listens of the album. I like that Beltrami wrote a few themes but in general the score doesn't hit any of the same emotional notes as say Los Manos de mi Madre (Pascal Gaigne) a score to a film I have also not seen but that works gorgeously from the start.

Thanks for the reply. I do agree you can fairly judge the quality of a score by a few listens (or even a single listen) of an album. I'll have to check out Los Manos de mi Madre based on your "gorgeous" description, though!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 7:31 PM   
 By:   ryankeaveney   (Member)

I can't help but think of that end thematic statement from JNH's THE SIXTH SENSE (last but of "Malcolm is Dead" - spoiler alert) when I listen to this. Nice score, though.

 
 Posted:   Aug 17, 2014 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

I can't help but think of that end thematic statement from JNH's THE SIXTH SENSE (last but of "Malcolm is Dead" - spoiler alert) when I listen to this. Nice score, though.

Totally hear the similarities. Good catch. I'm not very familiar with The Sixth Sense but revisiting that cue you are right on the money.

 
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