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 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

"Jar Jar's the key to all of it because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before."

Watching that Episode 1 documentary after all these years is really eye-opening. Especially the moment after they all see the first rough assembly and Lucas says, "I may have gone too far this time."

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 1:02 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

I dare John Williams to put "lapti nek" in there

Somewhere Sabastian Shaw is listening to Lapti Nek watching Han shoot first.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   GOLDSMITHDAKING   (Member)

"Jar Jar's the key to all of it because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before."

Watching that Episode 1 documentary after all these years is really eye-opening. Especially the moment after they all see the first rough assembly and Lucas says, "I may have gone too far this time."


Good thing it was a rough cut because the finished film was awesome.I saw it at the cinema 5 times that summer of '89.Absolutley loved it.Looks like i wasnt the only one given that it was the biggest film of the year at the box office.

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 1:40 PM   
 By:   MOsdtks   (Member)

"Jar Jar's the key to all of it because he's a funnier character than we've ever had before."

Watching that Episode 1 documentary after all these years is really eye-opening. Especially the moment after they all see the first rough assembly and Lucas says, "I may have gone too far this time."


Good thing it was a rough cut because the finished film was awesome.I saw it at the cinema 5 times that summer of '89.Absolutley loved it.Looks like i wasnt the only one given that it was the biggest film of the year at the box office.


I think maybe you mean '99 since the top grossing film in '89 was Batman (Michael Keaton)

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   jenkwombat   (Member)

Good thing it was a rough cut because the finished film was awesome.I saw it at the cinema 5 times that summer of '89.Absolutley loved it.Looks like i wasnt the only one given that it was the biggest film of the year at the box office.


Wow, must have been a VERY rough cut if you saw it 10 years before it came out. wink

Just kidding with you....

But seriously, I liked it too. It's sad to me that so many others didn't. (But, I'm sure *they* were just as sad that the movie disappointed them.) To be sure, there are things I would have done differently as well if I were making the film, but I did enjoy it, and saw it numerous times during the Summer of 1999. The audiences I saw it with seemed to enjoy it as well, which is why I was so surprised to find *such* a level of hatred for it on the various websites I visited at the time. I mean, some people acted like it was worse than anything made by Ed Wood.

Anyway, I'm happy Maestro Williams is onboard for "Episode VII: The Public Beheading of Jar Jar", and hope that we all can be satisfied with what we see in 2015. Surely, the score will be great!!

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

Odd to read an article about a new Star Wars movie without the name George Lucas being mentioned.

And was anyone expecting a composer other than John Williams? lol


And what are they gonna do about the very beginning? 20th has nothing to do with this, correct?

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 5:14 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)

I meant a theme specifically for his character as opposed to a theme for a relationship.
That love theme, while one of my favorites, doesn't try to define the awesomeness that is Han Solo.


Since it’s the internet, I’ll argue with you. smile I think as used when Luke talks to Han on his comlink (at the beginning of ESB), when the Falcon detaches from the Star Destroyer, and of course The Asteroid Field totally sum up the awesomeness that is Han Solo.

But sure, a new theme for a man thirty some years older would be appropriate.


Han and Leia's theme was just a clever modulation on Princess Leia's original theme from A New Hope.

When Luke and Han are comlinking, Williams decided to do another one of his "musical foreshadowing" bits by putting that cue there, to signal what was ahead for him and Leia.

Han still needs his OWN theme to call home...

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 5:20 PM   
 By:   skyy38   (Member)



Since it’s the internet, I’ll argue with you. smile I think as used when Luke talks to Han on his comlink (at the beginning of ESB), when the Falcon detaches from the Star Destroyer, and of course The Asteroid Field totally sum up the awesomeness that is Han Solo.

But sure, a new theme for a man thirty some years older would be appropriate.


I can't ever imagine arguing the lack of or presence of a theme for Han with anyone in person^^.
I just long for a specific theme for Han as iconic and memorable as Williams' themes for Darth, Luke, Indiana, and Superman, etc. I know there's a parallel universe out there where such a theme exists. If I ever invent a parallel universe machine, that's the first universe I'll visit, and I'll probably never leave. And I'll take you with me.


I'll try and write Hans Theme before you have to go to the trouble!

There's something else that's lacking too- A concert arrangement of Ben's Theme.....

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2014 - 10:23 PM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

Anybody else binging on the Star Wars scores right now in preparation for May the Fourth Be With You?

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 6:51 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Odd to read an article about a new Star Wars movie without the name George Lucas being mentioned.

And was anyone expecting a composer other than John Williams? lol


And what are they gonna do about the very beginning? 20th has nothing to do with this, correct?


I could see Disney having Williams develop a new "Lucasfilm" logo and fanfare, similar to what they did with Brian Tyler this year with the Marvel movies. That way they can make something that flows into the Star Wars theme better than the Disney "when you wish upon a star" jingle

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   Mark Langdon   (Member)

Good thing it was a rough cut because the finished film was awesome.I saw it at the cinema 5 times that summer of '89.Absolutley loved it.Looks like i wasnt the only one given that it was the biggest film of the year at the box office.


Wow, must have been a VERY rough cut if you saw it 10 years before it came out. wink

Just kidding with you....

But seriously, I liked it too. It's sad to me that so many others didn't. (But, I'm sure *they* were just as sad that the movie disappointed them.) To be sure, there are things I would have done differently as well if I were making the film, but I did enjoy it, and saw it numerous times during the Summer of 1999. The audiences I saw it with seemed to enjoy it as well, which is why I was so surprised to find *such* a level of hatred for it on the various websites I visited at the time. I mean, some people acted like it was worse than anything made by Ed Wood.



I think if THE PHANTOM MENACE had truly been the first STAR WARS film, it would be looked on with more kindness now. The negative reaction was most definitely tied inextricably to the level of anticipation, 16 years worth for many people. Here in the UK it came out a couple of months after the US, and so when I finally saw it I was expecting the worse after the bad word of mouth coming from the US, but I actually really liked it. On the other hand, my initial reaction to ATTACK OF THE CLONES (which came out simultaneously with the US) was much more negative, though I started to like it a lot more as I rewatched (I went to see it a couple more times the first week). I still think PHANTOM MENACE is my least favourite STAR WARS film (Jar-Jar actually doesn't bother me that much, though there is too much of him, but there are some weird pacing issues in the first part of the film, the film only really settling down when it gets to Tatooine, and I still think having Anakin being so young when we first meet him was a major mistep), while I think CLONES has some of the worst stuff in any of the films (the romance is terrible, the scene of Anakin waking up from a dream in which he has a premonition of his mother's death is the single worst scene in the entire saga, and the stuff with Anakin's mother and the Tusken Raiders is too rushed), but it also has lots that I really love and count as some of my favourite parts of the series (Obi-Wan's investigation, Jango and the clones, anything involving Christopher Lee).
I'd actually make an argument that the key person from the original trilogy who was most missed on the prequel trilogy was Fred Roos, who was the casting director for FIVE EASY PIECES, THE GODFATHER and AMERICAN GRAFFITI (amongst others), and although he had moved onto working as a producer (mostly with Coppola) by the time STAR WARS came around, he did work on the film as a casting consultant, and was heavily involved in the casting calls for the film. You can certainly thank him for having Harrison Ford play Han Solo. If only he had come back in the same position for the prequels, we might have had better actors playing Anakin. Sadly, the casting for this role (at both ages portrayed) was majorly botched.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I must be like one of two people who are not only not excited at all about new movies, but just don't care at all about a new Williams score for it.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 7:45 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

edit - posted to wrong thread

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Penelope Pineapple   (Member)

I must be like one of two people who are not only not excited at all about new movies, but just don't care at all about a new Williams score for it.

Make that one of three people.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 8:17 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I must be like one of two people who are not only not excited at all about new movies, but just don't care at all about a new Williams score for it.

Make that one of three people.


Make that four. wink

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Jim Phelps   (Member)

Make it five. Any "new" Star Wars news doesn't exactly get my Midichlorians in a tingle as imo Star Wars died with the second Death Star. However, I have been re-reading Marvel's Star Wars comic series--severely underrated--and remember just how much fun that original trilogy was for someone like me whose childhood coincided with the release of those films. George Lucas may have Jumped the Shark "a long time ago..." wink but he, along with Steven Spielberg were the architects of my childhood. I am grateful for the countless hours of joy their films have given me. The arrival of summer--at least here in southern Florida-- has me listening to my olde TESB LP yet again.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

Well we've done it! We've found the five people in the world who aren't excited about Star Wars!

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I don't really care about the new films myself. Passing curiosity to see Luke and Han but thats about it.

I will, however, suffer through a viewing to hear a Williams score in context. Beyond that, I think the series is done for me.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

What's up with the group of grouchies suddenly wandering into this thread?

Let me just say that I'm SUPER-EXCITED about this -- and I needed to say that to add some balance to the force over the last few posts!

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2014 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Same here - I can´t wait to see the new Star Wars film and hear a new John Williams score to that! I never would have thought, as a teenager, that that cast would do another Star Wars sequel ever again. Now, as a middle-aged nerd I am just grateful for more.


 
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