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I doubt LLL did any new work. Would the stems have sound effects on them too? I'd hope they use the LLL since it's now available, sounds terrific and since this Blu-ray is focused on new extras.
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Man, is Gerald Fried's work on "Catspaw" great! That's the score that gets the most compulsive listening for me with the various magic motifs, the erotic music for Sylvia, and especially the "Brain-Washed" motif, which may have been even better employed as a motif for NOMAD in "The Changeling".
All the Fried scores for Star Trek are stupendous. His second season run is the musical heart of all Trek for me. Even more so than Goldsmith's score for the first movie.
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Firstly, apologies to Tom Maguire - no, LLL isn't doing another 15CD set... that I know of. 
This question may already have been answered, but I couldn't find it in my (admittedly somewhat cursory) look here: Is there any reason for one to keep any of the first three volumes of GNP's original series CDs, other than nostalgia for them? To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a single second of music missing from LaLaLand's box set and the sound is in all instances vastly superior. Anything I should know about before gifting these volumes?
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I just spent some time "grooming" my digital music library and incorporating tracks from the 50th anniversary CD set into my TOS Box. (And The Motion Picture and Wrath of Khan.)
I broke the albums up into episodes (every album has opening and closing titles and the Desilu / Paramount closing) including both original tracks and re-recorded library cues from other seasons.
Then I did my own album covers for all of them. They aren't very fancy but I think I can see them as LP covers. I went back and looked at the lovely ones that robtoliver did. Turns out I only copied a couple of his. (I thought I was being so clever on Catspaw.) My season three library disc cracks me up. (Get it? Because it's a picture of the... Never mind.)
http://imgur.com/a/JIRg5
Still love this set!
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Firstly, apologies to Tom Maguire - no, LLL isn't doing another 15CD set... that I know of.
This question may already have been answered, but I couldn't find it in my (admittedly somewhat cursory) look here: Is there any reason for one to keep any of the first three volumes of GNP's original series CDs, other than nostalgia for them? To the best of my knowledge, there isn't a single second of music missing from LaLaLand's box set and the sound is in all instances vastly superior. Anything I should know about before gifting these volumes?
No. I loved the GNP albums, but frankly... this set closes the book, and includes everything from the GNP releases and then some.
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I just found something interesting while looking through the Jerry Fielding collection online. The first I don't know if this is a better source than what LLLR used, but I thought I'd mention it anyway:
"Star Trek. #60043-056. Full track 1200' 7½ ips"
Now, the second one is the interesting thing. Was this included on the set?
"Selected Reel - Star Trek Demos. 1200' "
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Riotengine STILL hasn't gotten thru the whole thing!!!!
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Other interesting finds:
"Mannix" demos.
"Johnny Got His Gun" demos, but it lists "(Bernstein)" by it (I'm not sure what to make of this).
And some of you know the story of Fielding and Bob Dylan in regards to the score of "Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid". One tape recording is simply labeld: Bob Dylan Shit. There's also for that title:
"Confrontation on Billy = Dylan Leonard Sam Me.
Dylan Sessions (?). [Box also marked “Tarzan #2.”] "
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I just found something interesting while looking through the Jerry Fielding collection online. The first I don't know if this is a better source than what LLLR used, but I thought I'd mention it anyway:
"Star Trek. #60043-056. Full track 1200' 7½ ips"
Now, the second one is the interesting thing. Was this included on the set?
"Selected Reel - Star Trek Demos. 1200' "
Star Trek #43 is Tribbles and #56 is Spectre. The "Star Trek Demos" is almost certainly selected cues from his Trek scores that he sent out to try to get other jobs.
I've said this before but it is worth repeating: for the TOS box set we had (for the vast majority of the show) the original, first generation 1/4" mono tapes that came off of the scoring sessions -- with ALL of the recorded takes, including overlays, alternates, false starts, bad takes, slates and occasional crosstalk. I also personally reviewed the score manuscripts at CBS to get the correct cue titles and other clerical information. There is simply no way they recorded something for Star Trek that we don't know about and that is, by now, not on the TOS box set or the 50th Anniversary set.
Occasionally at the end of sessions they would record "wild" musical FX for possible library music. For example at the end of the Is There in Truth No Beauty-The Empath double session, they had George Duning's Yamaha keyboard player make a bunch of squealing white noise sounds. These sounds were not based on musical compositions and were not used in the show. When these "wild FX" takes were occasionally used or were historically or musically interesting, we put them on the box set as bonus tracks.
Folks, you aren't missing anything! And considering how many of us practically grew up on this music, it's a miraculous outcome that makes me (and many others) very, very happy.
Lukas
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I've said this before but it is worth repeating: for the TOS box set we had (for the vast majority of the show) the original, first generation 1/4" mono tapes that came off of the scoring sessions -- with ALL of the recorded takes, including overlays, alternates, false starts, bad takes, slates and occasional crosstalk...And considering how many of us practically grew up on this music, it's a miraculous outcome that makes me (and many others) very, very happy.
Lukas
Thanks for this 'repeat' of information, Lukas ... which I read for the 1st time.
That these first generation scoring session master tapes have been in existence for all these decades has me wondering why they weren't accessible during the mid-1980s when GNP Crescendo and Label X and Varese were creating the initial albums of music from Star Trek?
Why were episode scores re-recorded in suite formats by Tony Bremner and Fred Steiner when these original session tapes existed? Typically, new recordings are produced when it is deemed that the original sound elements no longer exist (or possessed 'flaw's by certain standards).
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I've said this before but it is worth repeating: for the TOS box set we had (for the vast majority of the show) the original, first generation 1/4" mono tapes that came off of the scoring sessions -- with ALL of the recorded takes, including overlays, alternates, false starts, bad takes, slates and occasional crosstalk...And considering how many of us practically grew up on this music, it's a miraculous outcome that makes me (and many others) very, very happy.
Lukas
Thanks for this 'repeat' of information, Lukas ... which I read for the 1st time.
That these first generation scoring session master tapes have been in existence for all these decades has me wondering why they weren't accessible during the mid-1980s when GNP Crescendo and Label X and Varese were creating the initial albums of music from Star Trek?
Why were episode scores re-recorded in suite formats by Tony Bremner and Fred Steiner when these original session tapes existed? Typically, new recordings are produced when it is deemed that the original sound elements no longer exist (or possessed 'flaw's by certain standards).
That's a long story and not one I'm authorized to tell in detail...the short version is that these tapes had been "disappeared" from Paramount in the early 1970s (which happened to a lot of Star Trek production material) and were in private hands until GNP/Crescendo acquired them around 1990 from the person who had wisely gotten a hold of them and preserved them. The original album of The Cage/Where No Man... had been mastered from Sandy Courage's personal 1/4" tapes (which didn't sound very good).
Lukas
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I've said this before but it is worth repeating: for the TOS box set we had (for the vast majority of the show) the original, first generation 1/4" mono tapes that came off of the scoring sessions -- with ALL of the recorded takes, including overlays, alternates, false starts, bad takes, slates and occasional crosstalk...And considering how many of us practically grew up on this music, it's a miraculous outcome that makes me (and many others) very, very happy.
Lukas
Thanks for this 'repeat' of information, Lukas ... which I read for the 1st time.
That these first generation scoring session master tapes have been in existence for all these decades has me wondering why they weren't accessible during the mid-1980s when GNP Crescendo and Label X and Varese were creating the initial albums of music from Star Trek?
I seem to recall they were unknowingly in private collectors hands until recently. They've since been returned to the studio. (Someone correct me if I am wrong)
Edit- Lukas already answered the question!
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