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Jan 6, 2018 - 11:45 AM
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leagolfer
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Says it all test struggler scoring 171, England need to go away re-group with better selection from ECB, 4-0 a thumping, if they don't switch players for the next ashes in UK, it could be a similar result.
We will have home advantage which always helps. If the ECB prepare flat tracks, Australia will certainly win. The pitches should be seaming ones if we're to win. Play to your strengths.
In the last home Ashes we won 3-2. Australia won their two tests on flat tracks. They cannot cope with the moving ball which is why we won the other three. Who can forget their calamitous collapse for 60 at Trent Bridge. Stuart Broad 8/15.
Stumps on Day Two of the First Test at Cape Town and Hardik Pandya - the number 7 batsman - rescured India somewhat with a run-a-ball 93. They were 92/7 but recovered to 209 all out. Still 77 runs behind SA (286) which is too big a deficit to make up on this pitch. SA 65/2 at stumps so effectively a 150 lead already.
Home advantage lifefoot, maybe, the Aussies don't mind are weather conditions or pitches, it will take hero performances like Broad to skittle the Aussies, if England cushion this loss well then who knows in 2 years!
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Still in it? erm.. i heard on sky news thsmornin that geoff boycott said "England are f****** shite and havent got a f****** hope in hell of winning 1 test let alone threatening to compete for the series "
ahem... 
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Jan 7, 2018 - 2:50 AM
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litefoot
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Home advantage lifefoot, maybe, the Aussies don't mind are weather conditions or pitches, it will take hero performances like Broad to skittle the Aussies, if England cushion this loss well then who knows in 2 years!
Australia declared on 649/7. Shaun Marsh added 156 and his brother Mitchell added 101. This series has been the making of the Marsh brothers, each scoring two centuries.
England are 93/4. The top three out cheaply again. England need to score 300 just to make Australia bat again. Ain't happening.
Just 24 hours to go and this painful series will be over. Heads have to roll. Nathan Lyon's prediction of ending some England careers may have succeeded beyond his wildest dreams:
PLEASE LEAVE
Mark Stoneman - top score of 56. A lot of nothing scores. Dropped, for me.
James Vince - bats prettily and then gets out, every single bloody time. Dropped.
Stuart Broad - After a resurgence in Melbourne he's gone back to mediocrity here. Had his worst series. Cannot possibly be picked for NZ. Dropped.
Mason Crane. Figures of 193/1 on debut. Says it all. Dropped.
JURY OUT
Alistair Cook - one gigantic innings of 244... and nine innings of nothing. Cannot keep picking on the basis of him scoring a double century once or twice a year. Will play in 2018 but needs to string together some scores.
Joe Root - supposedly part of 'the big four' with Smith, Kohli and Williamson, but not for me he isn't. Played nine Ashes Tests in Australia and never scored a single century. Needs to solve the problem of scoring 50s and getting out. As England captain he will never be dropped.
Jonny Bairstow - kept impeccably with the gloves which is great, and a century in the Perth loss, but needs to score more runs. Couldn't stop scoring in 2016, but has gone into decline with the bat since then.
Moeen Ali - had a fantastic summer in England - scored runs and took wickets - but been dire here. Finger spinners struggle in Australia. Struggled in India too. What do you do with a player who's great at home but so poor overseas?
Tom Curran - supposedly a batting allrounder but hasn't scored any runs. Took a wicket or two but only after conceding runs.
PASS GO AND COLLECT £200
Dawid Malan - Daddy hundred and three half centuries are enough to make this tour a success for him. Jury was out after the West Indies series but has been the best England batsman on this tour.
James Anderson - took wickets at a good economy rate. Had no support from the other bowlers whatsoever.
Craig Overton - took wickets, got injured. Did his job.
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Jan 7, 2018 - 9:08 AM
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leagolfer
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Home advantage lifefoot, maybe, the Aussies don't mind are weather conditions or pitches, it will take hero performances like Broad to skittle the Aussies, if England cushion this loss well then who knows in 2 years!
Australia declared on 649/7. Shaun Marsh added 156 and his brother Mitchell added 101. This series has been the making of the Marsh brothers, each scoring two centuries.
England are 93/4. The top three out cheaply again. England need to score 300 just to make Australia bat again. Ain't happening.
Just 24 hours to go and this painful series will be over. Heads have to roll. Nathan Lyon's prediction of ending some England careers may have succeeded beyond his wildest dreams:
PLEASE LEAVE
Mark Stoneman - top score of 56. A lot of nothing scores. Dropped, for me.
James Vince - bats prettily and then gets out, every single bloody time. Dropped.
Stuart Broad - After a resurgence in Melbourne he's gone back to mediocrity here. Had his worst series. Cannot possibly be picked for NZ. Dropped.
Mason Crane. Figures of 193/1 on debut. Says it all. Dropped.
JURY OUT
Alistair Cook - one gigantic innings of 244... and nine innings of nothing. Cannot keep picking on the basis of him scoring a double century once or twice a year. Will play in 2018 but needs to string together some scores.
Joe Root - supposedly part of 'the big four' with Smith, Kohli and Williamson, but not for me he isn't. Played nine Ashes Tests in Australia and never scored a single century. Needs to solve the problem of scoring 50s and getting out. As England captain he will never be dropped.
Jonny Bairstow - kept impeccably with the gloves which is great, and a century in the Perth loss, but needs to score more runs. Couldn't stop scoring in 2016, but has gone into decline with the bat since then.
Moeen Ali - had a fantastic summer in England - scored runs and took wickets - but been dire here. Finger spinners struggle in Australia. Struggled in India too. What do you do with a player who's great at home but so poor overseas?
Tom Curran - supposedly a batting allrounder but hasn't scored any runs. Took a wicket or two but only after conceding runs.
PASS GO AND COLLECT £200
Dawid Malan - Daddy hundred and three half centuries are enough to make this tour a success for him. Jury was out after the West Indies series but has been the best England batsman on this tour.
James Anderson - took wickets at a good economy rate. Had no support from the other bowlers whatsoever.
Craig Overton - took wickets, got injured. Did his job.
Good assessment litefoot, barring Anderson 35, Cook 34, the team is youngish, most players did disappoint with bat, ball, I think the weather was a factor, its at a peak now in Australia, hot, you can cook food off the floor, players under estimated the conditions.
Root deserves another call, just a bad series, he's 27, I'd give him the benefit of doubt, he was probably tired, mentally, plus, other players didn't help crumbling.
Your please leaves, I agree with, not broad though, yes, he was awful nothing happened, but he's 31 I'd give him another chance at home to get wickets it could be his last ashes.
649/7 some total, England have no chance, heads went down long ago on tour which isn't good enough at this level, if you can't bat as a team as they couldn't being run out is always cheap, school boy error, then at least bowl with pressure at economy to some-think gives.
If ECB make a few changes they stand a good chance with these players in 2 years. Cook, Bairstow, Malan, Overton, Anderson, Curran, Ali, Root, if they fail then some need to retire from test cricket.
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Jan 7, 2018 - 4:01 PM
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litefoot
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Good assessment litefoot, barring Anderson 35, Cook 34, the team is youngish, most players did disappoint with bat, ball, I think the weather was a factor, its at a peak now in Australia, hot, you can cook food off the floor, players under estimated the conditions.
Root deserves another call, just a bad series, he's 27, I'd give him the benefit of doubt, he was probably tired, mentally, plus, other players didn't help crumbling.
News just broke that he's in hospital - severe dehydration, diarrhoea and vomiting. Doubt he'll be fit to bat tomorrow. Probably won't play the one day series either.
not broad though, yes, he was awful nothing happened, but he's 31 I'd give him another chance at home to get wickets it could be his last ashes.
I wouldn't take him to NZ though, which is the next series.
If ECB make a few changes they stand a good chance with these players in 2 years. Cook, Bairstow, Malan, Overton, Anderson, Curran, Ali, Root, if they fail then some need to retire from test cricket.
Paul Farbrace said today that they will start planning for the 2021 Ashes down under from tomorrow. That means they would start preparing a team with that series in mind. Cook, Broad and Anderson may get pushed out the door within 12 months, even if they're performing well, because these selectors won't want players that are past it by the time of the next Ashes tour.
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