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Walter Bernstein – Fail-Safe; The Train; The Molly Maguires; The Front; Yanks
Jean-Claude Carriere – Viva Maria!; Belle du Jour; The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie; That Obscure Object of Desire; The Tin Drum; Danton; The Unbearable Lightness of Being; At Play In the Fields of the Lord
Philip Dunne – How Green Was My Valley; The Ghost and Mrs. Muir; Forever Amber; David and Bathsheba; The Robe; The Egyptian; Demetrius and the Gladiators; Ten North Frederick; The Agony and the Ecstasy
William Faulkner – Gunga Din; To Have and Have Not; The Southerner; The Big Sleep
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In addition to those already mentiioned:
Ben Hecht
Leigh Brackett (few credits--but I always loved her work)
Ben Hecht – Nothing Sacred; Wuthering Heights; Gunga Din; Spellbound; Notorious; The Thing From Another World
Leigh Brackett – The Big Sleep; Rio Bravo; Hatari!; The Long Goodbye; The Empire Strikes Back
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Francis Ford Coppola Patton The Great Gatsby The Conversation Apocalypse, Now The Godfather Trilogy
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The ONLY truly creative person is the author; everyone else’s contribution may be no less pivotal but it certainly
ain’t as seminal – which is why, as Pat Macnee once eloquently put it,
What a strange thing to say about film, which is essentially a visual medium, not a written one.
Film may be "essentially a visual medium," but all these years it hasn't been photographs or paintings that have been adapted into films, but novels and plays. Like it or not, nearly every film begins with a story idea and a written script, not a visual conception.
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Horton Foote – To Kill a Mockingbird; The Chase; Tender Mercies; The Trip To Bountiful; Of Mice and Men (1992)
Carl Foreman – Home of the Brave; Champion; Cyrano de Bergerac; High Noon; The Bridge On the River Kwai; The Key; The Guns of Navarone; The Victors; MacKenna’s Gold
Irving Ravetch & Harriet Frank, Jr. – The Sound and the Fury; The Long, Hot Summer; Home From the Hill; Hud; Hombre; The Reivers; The Cowboys; Conrack; Norma Rae
Lowell Ganz & Babaloo Mandel – Splash; Parenthood; City Slickers; A League of Their Own;
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The ONLY truly creative person is the author; everyone else’s contribution may be no less pivotal but it certainly
ain’t as seminal – which is why, as Pat Macnee once eloquently put it,
What a strange thing to say about film, which is essentially a visual medium, not a written one.
Film may be "essentially a visual medium," but all these years it hasn't been photographs or paintings that have been adapted into films, but novels and plays. Like it or not, nearly every film begins with a story idea and a written script, not a visual conception.
There's a *huge* difference between saying that "the ONLY truly creative person is the author" and saying that "nearly every film begins with a story idea and a written script". First, there is "true creativity" involved in deciding how to adapt a written script into a cinematic form. Or do you honestly think that the same script as directed by, say, Fincher, Gilliam, del Toro, Lynch, Švankmajer, the Coen Brothers and Chris Columbus would end in essentially the same film seven times?
Second, I think there are a number of films that start with a concept, not even a story, and that a writer is then brought on board to flesh out the concept. And I'll bet a number of original screenplays start with a specific imagined image or scene, and not a complete story idea. And there are movies that start with a core idea but feature huge amounts of improvisation. And movies where the visuals really are the point, and the script merely a basic framework to hang them on.
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It's like Joe Gillis once said, "The audience thinks the actors make it up."
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There's a *huge* difference between saying that "the ONLY truly creative person is the author" and saying that "nearly every film begins with a story idea and a written script". First, there is "true creativity" involved in deciding how to adapt a written script into a cinematic form. Or do you honestly think that the same script as directed by, say, Fincher, Gilliam, del Toro, Lynch, Švankmajer, the Coen Brothers and Chris Columbus would end in essentially the same film seven times?
Second, I think there are a number of films that start with a concept, not even a story, and that a writer is then brought on board to flesh out the concept. And I'll bet a number of original screenplays start with a specific imagined image or scene, and not a complete story idea. And there are movies that start with a core idea but feature huge amounts of improvisation. And movies where the visuals really are the point, and the script merely a basic framework to hang them on.
I don’t disagree with much of what you say. I’m just not sure that it proves that film is “essentially a visual medium.” I agree that there is “true creativity” in the non-writing arts and crafts that go into the making of a film, just as there is “true creativity” that goes into those arts and crafts that allow for the production of a stage play. If I assert that the same stage play as directed by Orson Welles, Mike Nichols, Laurence Olivier, Gene Saks, and Julie Taymor would not be the same play five times over, does that prove that a stage production is “essentially a visual medium?”
As for films that begin with a concept, I’ll wager that more of those concepts have to do with character and theme than with images. Not that there are none of those, just not many. Acting improvisation can be done as easily on stage as on film. And while some films do indeed emphasize visuals over all other aspects, that is a creative choice, not a mandate imposed by the medium itself. A stage play can also sublimate script and acting to the visuals such as lighting effects, set decoration, and costuming. None of this makes a stage play essentially a visual medium.
In short, I was disagreeing with the poster who stated that film “is essentially a visual medium,” not agreeing with the poster who said that “the ONLY truly creative person is the author.”
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In short, I was disagreeing with the poster who stated that film “is essentially a visual medium,” not agreeing with the poster who said that “the ONLY truly creative person is the author.”
But it is. You go and WATCH a film, you don't go to the cinema to listen to words.
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