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 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 8:32 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

In the modern world, Facebook is now an ancient social medium (coming up on 13 years now). It's no longer only occupied by young people and progressives, but your grandmother may very well be there as well. This means that it's no longer as 'current' or 'hip' among the younger crowd (teens have long since migrated elsewhere).

That being said, I still love it for what it is. It gives me access to event information, a way to promote what I do, keeping updated on the people I find interesting (and who don't 'spam' their feeds) and so forth. I no longer post as many personal updates as I did back in '05 or '06 or whenever I first created an account, but I find it to be a crucial tool in my everyday logistics. That's what it is for me -- a tool!

I know who the composer is that Kevin mentions in the first post, and while I agree that the political updates are a little over-the-top, it's his right to use his fame and channel to air the frustrations that many Americans have at this point in time. I don't mind it that much. There's also some good "on-topic" stuff once in a while. And since I very much share his frustrations -- even as a 'foreigner' -- I don't mind scrolling past a few 're-posts' like that. In fact, scrolling is a crucial "skill" when interacting with social media.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I dislike Facebook for so many reasons, the main reason is the invasion of privacy and stealing and use of personal information. I really consider Facebook a Phishing scam. If China or Russian created Facebook Westerners would've be up in arms.

Then you have everyone you don't want to talk to trying to become your friend. Or people you want to leave behind use the site to track you down. Then of course the majority of users use it as their political soap box.

But on top of ALL of that I find the layout horrendous and very difficult to read. It fails on all fronts.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 8:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I dislike Facebook for so many reasons, the main reason is the invasion of privacy and stealing and use of personal information. I really consider Facebook a Phishing scam. If China or Russian created Facebook Westerners would've be up in arms.

Well, if that is a major issue for you, then you're clearly not in the target audience. People with anxieties regarding personal information aren't on Facebook to begin with, plain and simple. Personally, I don't share anything sensitive that I don't want shared. As others have said, it's just a medium. It is what you make of it.

But I do agree with you that the interface (especially in the messaging system) is now inferior to what is used to be, probably because they're phazing out PC usage in favour of mobile devices.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 9:37 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

In the modern world, Facebook is now an ancient social medium (coming up on 13 years now). It's no longer only occupied by young people and progressives, but your grandmother may very well be there as well. This means that it's no longer as 'current' or 'hip' among the younger crowd (teens have long since migrated elsewhere).

That being said, I still love it for what it is. It gives me access to event information, a way to promote what I do, keeping updated on the people I find interesting (and who don't 'spam' their feeds) and so forth. I no longer post as many personal updates as I did back in '05 or '06 or whenever I first created an account, but I find it to be a crucial tool in my everyday logistics. That's what it is for me -- a tool!

I know who the composer is that Kevin mentions in the first post, and while I agree that the political updates are a little over-the-top, it's his right to use his fame and channel to air the frustrations that many Americans have at this point in time. I don't mind it that much. There's also some good "on-topic" stuff once in a while. And since I very much share his frustrations -- even as a 'foreigner' -- I don't mind scrolling past a few 're-posts' like that. In fact, scrolling is a crucial "skill" when interacting with social media.


I agree with you on so many levels about FB Thor. You can use FB for whatever you want. I have strong political opinions as well but keep those posts to a limited audience on FB. Like anything else online, you need to familiarize yourself with all the bells and whistles and take advantage of all the options. I made sure I knew how to personalize and secure my account before I created it and posted the first time. My account is locked down like Fort Knox and I use all the security features. I have blocked many people even before they knew I had an account (not that they cared lol). FB allows me to view my news feed for a few moments each day and then I am done with it. Another nice feature is the deactivate option. I have used it to just walk away from it. Anyway, I used to be a FB naysayer and cannot believe I even have an account. Who knew?

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 9:42 AM   
 By:   MRAUDIO   (Member)

I dislike Facebook for so many reasons, the main reason is the invasion of privacy and stealing and use of personal information. I really consider Facebook a Phishing scam. If China or Russian created Facebook Westerners would've be up in arms.

Then you have everyone you don't want to talk to trying to become your friend. Or people you want to leave behind use the site to track you down. Then of course the majority of users use it as their political soap box.

But on top of ALL of that I find the layout horrendous and very difficult to read. It fails on all fronts.


I couldn't have said it any better myself...

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

It's mostly "post-and-run" for me, I'm kind of a reluctant FB user. Very seldom do I scroll down on the news page - maybe once a month.

And yes, I'm also kind of fed up with the politics.

Less dramatic than unfriending people may be to put them on ignore, so you don't get any updates from them.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Not discussing politics here. No, not at all.

But, I think FaceBook's content reflects what concerns people the most nowadays. The people in the U.S., that is.

There are fewer recipes, photos of kids and animals than there used to be. Fewer requests to get people involved in Zynga games.

In place of those, there are calls to get people together to make a difference.

We haven't seen that here since the 70s.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 1:53 PM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I'm actually a big user of Facebook and really like it - it has enabled me to re-connect with a number of old friends that Inhad lost contact with over the years, enables me to see what everyone is up to and also to post updates myself.

Sure, a number of friends post things that I either have no interest in or goes against my own beliefs but I just unfollow then for updates so I never have to see what they post unless I chose to.

Facebook can be pretty much configured how often u want it, so I don't really see an issue.

Twitter on the other hand, I have unfollowed a number of people who have got overly-political in their posts. Some of the champagne socialists there really piss me off with their hypocrisy . I'm proud to say Alan Sugar blocked me because I commented on his views on Brexit.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I don't use it. I have no need for it.
There are people, like Eee-Dee says above for instance, for whom it is a legit and valuable resource.
In those cases it seems excellent.
But I would be one of those for whom it provides a pointless distraction.
The friends that were worth keeping up with--I DID keep up with.
Old friendships that went extinct did so for a reason--so I have no motivation to seek them out.
If they were meant to still be friends, they already would be.
Beyond that, what would there be for me to justify its use?
To find out if old girlfriends still liked me? Don't care.
Again, if a relationship is meant to endure, it would do so of its own accord.

Of course, I may change my mind in the future.
But it's not likely, seeing as practically everything I see about it is complaints from its users for foolish changes the website makes periodically.
Another factor for me is that, in many ways, I prefer being off the grid as much as possible--for as much control as we actually have over that aspect of it.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't use it. I have no need for it.
Of course, I may change my mind in the future.


Very diplomatic of you! wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   Joe 1956   (Member)

solium said:

I dislike Facebook for so many reasons, the main reason is the invasion of privacy and stealing and use of personal information. I really consider Facebook a Phishing scam....

I completely agree that it's a data miner, due to the fact you can't even look around and decide if the place is suitable for you to join without having to sign up first.

 
 Posted:   Mar 13, 2017 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

I don't use it. I have no need for it.
Of course, I may change my mind in the future.


Very diplomatic of you! wink



Well, I'm really just acknowledging that there may be some time in the future that it might be of some minor use to me.
But it seems pretty remote.
The point about data-mining should be enough to keep people away, but to a lot of people the convenience of using it causes them to sort of turn a blind "inner" eye to it.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

If anyone wants to mine what I put out on Facebook, I say -- MINE AHEAD! There's nothing there that I'm particularly protective of. If I'd had, I wouldn't be there in the first place. But I simply don't believe all the paranoia that naysayers put out there.

And I'm curious -- for those of you who worry so much about the privacy settings of Facebook, who are you worried about? The rest of us? Because you're clearly not there yourself (that would be akin to S&M, I guess).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 7:46 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I can understand the Luddite thinking of those people who are perfectly happy to use the internet, but are paranoid that Facebook is somehow stealing their personal information.

As a qualified fraud investigator I can tell you that, if you use the internet for just one day a year, you are at far more risk of personal attack than if you spent every sing,e hour of every single day on Facebook.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

And I'm curious -- for those of you who worry so much about the privacy settings of Facebook, who are you worried about? The rest of us? Because you're clearly not there yourself (that would be akin to S&M, I guess).

In case anyone here hasn't been paying attention to most everything during your life, paranoia actually motivates most everything people do in our modern world. All modern societies are run and controlled by fear. How do you think advertising works?

Meanwhile, anyone seen the moderator around here? I'm sure he's out to get me. Either him or Joan Hue.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 9:45 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

If anyone wants to mine what I put out on Facebook, I say -- MINE AHEAD! There's nothing there that I'm particularly protective of. If I'd had, I wouldn't be there in the first place. But I simply don't believe all the paranoia that naysayers put out there.

And I'm curious -- for those of you who worry so much about the privacy settings of Facebook, who are you worried about? The rest of us? Because you're clearly not there yourself (that would be akin to S&M, I guess).


I am not paranoid about the privacy settings on FB from a mining standpoint. Mike J nailed it. If you use the internet for anything, your data can be mined. This is why companies like the one I work for spend thousand of dollars and hours on compliance and security. It is a rolling 24 hour job.

I don't have issues with the security and privacy of FB. I simply take advantage of the features they have to keep my account a family and close friend vehicle of communication. I am certainly not trying to keep people from finding me. I doubt I am someone people are looking for lol. I am not worried about people here discovering my personal info. If I worried about that, I wouldn't buy items from other members here. Last time I looked, I haven't received a parcel addressed to "edwzoomom" USA.

I have total understanding and respect for people who choose not to use social media. I only use FB and that was a big step for me, believe me.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 10:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

All modern societies are run and controlled by fear.

You're such a beacon of positive light, Rory.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

All modern societies are run and controlled by fear.

You're such a beacon of positive light, Rory.


Unfortunately, the truth is not always a pleasant thing.

 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 1:08 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

All modern societies are run and controlled by fear.

You're such a beacon of positive light, Rory.


Unfortunately, the truth is not always a pleasant thing.


Corporations, religious institutions, and governments are shrouded in secrecy, while the general population have no right to privacy anymore. What could possibly go wrong?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 14, 2017 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

 
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