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 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 2:23 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

Haven't seen Interstella yet, but so far for me Nolan has directed more good than bad movies:



Bad:


Man of Steel



Nolan only produced that - Zac Snyder directed it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 7:23 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

But being frugal with his story and the edit is not one of his skills, all of his movies run too long

A drawback he shares with Michael Bay - Bad Boys is his only movie to date that doesn't run for over two hours. (It runs for 118 minutes.)


Yes, the mind numbing length of the last Transformers, 2 hours 45 minutes, and much of it was really not good. Ugh!

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 7:48 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I remember in the late 80's they predicted run times would be much shorter in the next decade because of the increased short attention spans of the audience. Even shorter than 90 mins.

I don't mind a three hour film, if it's time well spent. For some reason a run time just over 2hrs (say 2hrs 10mins) feels just right too me.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 8:14 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)

I remember in the late 80's they predicted run times would be much shorter in the next decade because of the increased short attention spans of the audience. Even shorter than 90 mins.

I don't mind a three hour film, if it's time well spent. For some reason a run time just over 2hrs (say 2hrs 10mins) feels just right too me.


I have neither the patience, the bum or the bladder to endure very long movies unless they are so riveting that the time flies by and I don't notice that I need the toilet or that my arse has gone to sleep. Generally speaking though, I much prefer a 2 hour movie.

In Interstellar, I popped to the loo somewhere about hour 7 and amb,led back in, spending time looking at all the posters for forthcoming attractions. When i got back in, the same scene was playing. To be honest, I could probably have popped into the screen next door to see another movie, nip out for pizza and read a small novel and I imagine Nolan's yawnfest would still have on,y been a quarter way through.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 8:25 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Well, this guy thinks it's more than a snoozefest -- it worse!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-rosenfeld/interstellar-is-a-crying_b_6157828.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 8:51 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)


Nolan only produced that - Zac Snyder directed it.


Oops, well in either case I wont be revisiting it, another example of a snoozefest (for me at least).

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:00 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

Rory, the reviewer is not strictly casting the same light on Interstellar as is the thread subject. There's no woodwork winge over the film's length. It's more that the reviewer is saying there's nothing terribly new to think about here. They're saying something like there's no point in looking for another ark in space. This is the only one. We're too busy thinking about tearing up the next Xmas present whilst in the midst of half uncovering the current one because, well, . . . the one currently in hand can't be as interesting as the next one. We're materialistic and vacuous - not necessarily referring to this board in particular, but the world in general. wink

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:49 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Well, this guy thinks it's more than a snoozefest -- it worse!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arthur-rosenfeld/interstellar-is-a-crying_b_6157828.html?utm_hp_ref=entertainment&ir=Entertainment


Humans self worth is laughable. Dinosaurs had a good three hundred million years. We could face extinction far before that. What we do in the next 50 to 100 years will be paramount for our survival in any great numbers.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:06 PM   
 By:   Eugene Iemola   (Member)

C'mon, Mathew McConaughey, the dude, saving the world? Really? Have you seen his Lincoln commercials?

And the sound at the Chinese Theatre here in Hollywood, was just awful. And this was after some guy stood in front of the crowd before the start of the film to tell us that Mr. Nolan approved the sound and picture for this theatre.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I still cannot recall a movie that has bored me as much as Interstellar.


You've never seen a PT Anderson film, then. big grin

Try watching Magnolia and not end up wanting to stab yourself - or others - in the eyes after the first excruciating hour ( f*ck, the first 20 minutes really razz ) or so.


You can apply this test to ANY of his films in fact.

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2014 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

From comments on another thread, it seems the sound volume is excessive in most theatres. It certainly was at my theatre. For those of you who plan to go I suggest protecting your hearing and wearing musicians' earplugs. They're great because they attenuate the volume without affecting the frequency range that you hear. And they're not too expensive.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=etymotic+earplugs&sprefix=etymotic%2Caps%2C243

Honestly, there should be an OSHA regulation or something to protect audiences. There are already such regulations for factories and other workplaces.


Agreed on this!

I always wear those musician earplugs when I go to the theaters, though lately I'm trying to avoid going to theaters at all if I can help it.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 3:41 AM   
 By:   groovemeister   (Member)

Overindulgence, that's what you can say about Nolan's films.


there lies a good film in every of Nolan's films, but due to overindulgence they lose their momentum.


A bit like Peter Jackson actually ! !


LESS IS MORE ! ! !

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 11:18 AM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

Wow, what a bunch of simpering, unadventurous, whining, unwilling-to-venture-outside-comfort-zone cranks we have here. big grin

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 12:25 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

Overindulgence, that's what you can say about Nolan's films.


there lies a good film in every of Nolan's films, but due to overindulgence they lose their momentum.


A bit like Peter Jackson actually ! !


LESS IS MORE ! ! !


You know its kinda funny. We often blame producers for reigning directors in and ruining their pictures. Nowadays I would say directors have too much freedom, and need a good producer to reign them in.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 12:51 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I just got back from what I am convinced was about three days of my life watching Christopher Nolan's latest movie, Interstellar etc etc etc

Mike - loved your review, but I don't agree with it much, mate. Three hours flew by, and the only real criticism is that the score was noticeably loud - but even that emphasised nicely the quieter moments. The story was a little circular, but that's relativity for ya!

Yet more to discuss next time we meet...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 2:56 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

I hate to add more fuel to this fire, but... wink

Don't blame the theaters, blame Nolan.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465?

Greg Espinoza

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   John B. Archibald   (Member)

Thought first 2/3 was interesting and well played, then the last 1/3 or so turned into a western, and left so many black holes in the plot, I just gave up on the whole thing. Not to mention the ending...

Hope the other holiday films are better.

Saw a preview for the new HOBBIT picture. Looks like they're outdoing the Battle of Armageddon!

Like the ancient Romans, people nowadays seem to believe Bigger is always Better...

Oh well.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 5:37 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I hate to add more fuel to this fire, but... wink

Don't blame the theaters, blame Nolan.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465?

Greg Espinoza


I never believed it was a theater issue. This has been the trend for years. Sounds like (no pun intended) Interstella takes it too a new level.

 
 Posted:   Nov 16, 2014 - 9:00 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I hate to add more fuel to this fire, but... wink

Don't blame the theaters, blame Nolan.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/behind-screen/christopher-nolan-breaks-silence-interstellar-749465?

Greg Espinoza


Having actually seen the film two times, at different theaters, I can assure you that this is ENTIRELY either a problem with the prints from Paramount or poor theater management/training. In this article, Nolan is discussing the sound mix of his film, which I heard perfectly during my first 35mm show at a small independent theater in downtown Atlanta. The sound was gorgeous, with the dialogue crisp and the music and sound tracks playing at near flawless levels. I noticed the great spotting on behalf of the director and his composer and had nothing but positive things to say about the film's sound mix. I was actually shaking my head at the people complaining. Two days later I dragged some friends to see it at a large chain theater in midtown Atlanta (a Regal, in case any one was wondering). While this was also a 35mm showing the sound was atrocious, with the dialogue playing at such low levels as to inspire the desperate need for subtitles. Funny thing was that the music and sound track was again crisp. My best friend and I asked management about this and they claimed it was "inherent in the print." I argued bullshit having seen it just fine the other night at truly a superior theater (lower prices, GREAT coffee and adult beverage selection!) but apparently this is a common problem.

It is truly braindead to lay blame upon this to the director and his talented crew of sound artisans who were professionally employed to create a memorable and clear soundtrack for this film. I understand you guys have a lot of professed distaste towards this director due to whatever personal reason you have not sorted out but having personally experienced your sound and "hearing" problems as well as the perfect mix, I feel truly sorry for those who are still endlessly bemoaning the "state" of sound mixes in modern cinema and should turn your attention to the environments you are seeing the film in. A Blu Ray release should clarify any issues people have with the sound mix, as they did in The Dark Knight Rises a couple of years ago. If you want that flawless presentation, your living room has now become the ultimate place for that.

Edited to add a thoughtful piece from IndieWire, detailing some of their writer's experiences in different formats: http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/70mm-imax-dcp-how-format-affected-our-theatrical-experiences-with-christopher-nolans-interstellar-20141110?page=1

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 17, 2014 - 5:36 AM   
 By:   Mike_J   (Member)



It is truly braindead to lay blame upon this to the director and his talented crew of sound artisans who were professionally employed to create a memorable and clear soundtrack for this film.


No it isn't, not when Nolan himself is saying he intended portions of dialogue to be inaudible because he wanted a new, interesting and adventurous approach to the use of sound.

I don't doubt for one moment that some theatres' sound systems are responsible for making the movie sound even worse but, sorry, I do not subscribe to the theory that, in a decent theatre, the sound mix is such that all the dialogue is crystal clear.

I remember the huge amount of hospitality directed at the clip of The Dark Knight Rises which was shown at IMAX cinemas - Bane's dialogue was laughed off the screen because it was so muffled and on that occiaisons Nolan said that was how he intended it to be. However, audience reaction was so bad the studio made Nolan go in and fix it for the final theatrical version and again for the blu ray. And even on Blu ray I still find some of the dialogue hard to understand (and yes, I have a very good home cinema set up).

 
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