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 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

I am a grammar nerd. I should of known their are others.

Too obvious

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   betenoir   (Member)

. . . Having gone all the way up to college in parochial schools, it was drilled into us, literally. . . .


Did they use an electric drill or a hand drill?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


And I have to say, I still don't see a problem in...five items or less. That's five items, or less than five items, all very clear to me, & less is a nice hard word, whereas fewer is a bit of a nothing word, sounds like a quiet fart.



Sorry - we'll never see eye to eye on that particular point. Split infinitives, ending sentences with prepositions or starting them with conjunctions, no problem as long as it's elegant and clear. But some things are just wrong - using "however" as a conjunction, for example (it's an adverb, apparently). And using "less" when it should be "fewer".

Personally, I find "less" to be an ugly word, like "got". "Fewer" has a gentle zephyr-like quality, and what's more, it's the mot juste.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

TG, we will have to disagree about the use of "however" as a conjunction. If you use a semi colon, it works well; however, if it really bugs you, I shall stop. smile (Yes, it is an adverb; on the other hand or however, it perfectly connects ideas.)

I have no problem with ending sentences with a preposition.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

. . . Having gone all the way up to college in parochial schools, it was drilled into us, literally. . . .


Did they use an electric drill or a hand drill?


Both!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   Mike_H   (Member)

Uh-oh!

http://theweek.com/article/index/241002/how-the-wrong-definition-of-literally-snuck-into-the-dictionary

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

TG, we will have to disagree about the use of "however" as a conjunction. If you use a semi colon, it works well; however, if it really bugs you, I shall stop. smile (Yes, it is an adverb; on the other hand or however, it perfectly connects ideas.)

I have no problem with ending sentences with a preposition.


Joan, I'd hazard a guess that if you use a semi-colon before it, it ceases to be a conjunction anyway. It certainly becomes acceptable. Even if I'm off the mark technically (and my ideas of what are and aren't acceptable tend to come from reading a lot rather than being taught it at school) the only time it ISN'T acceptable is after a comma - about which I believe we agree.

C

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 1:37 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Yep, TG, we do agree!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Huzzah!

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 2:23 PM   
 By:   Ray Faiola   (Member)

Charles Laughton in THE CANTERVILLE GHOST:

"Nowadays, England and America have everything in common except, of course, the language!"

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Oops TG. I'll add this realizing that you will still love me. Even with a semi colon, the word "however" will still be a conjunction call a conjunctive adverb. We have many conjunctive adverbs. See examples:

http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/conjunctiveadverb.htm

In the great scheme of life, who really cares? smile

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 3:08 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Oops TG. I'll add this realizing that you will still love me. Even with a semi colon, the word "however" will still be a conjunction call a conjunctive adverb. We have many conjunctive adverbs. See examples:

http://www.chompchomp.com/terms/conjunctiveadverb.htm

In the great scheme of life, who really cares? smile



'Course I will! You're like my favourite teacher...

And my heart rejoices at the bit that says: Notice, however, that you need a semicolon, not a comma, to connect the two clauses.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)


Punctuation errors do not bother me but syntax and spelling errors do. In the office I hear everyone using the word "verbiage" over and over and over. Can this word please be banned? I also hear and see it spelled "verbage". Oh my!

Finally, we had a meeting with our AVP the other day and he his opening sentence began "So we are meeting today to talk about..." He began at least three other sentences with the word "so" and during the Q and A portion of the meeting began each response by repeating the question BUT placing the word SO in front of it. I was going out of my mind. This is a rampant bad habit that is everywhere today. Grrrrrrr.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

edw, another bad habit that is rampant in almost all conversations is the use of the word "like" to start every sentence.

"Like I saw this guy the other day. Like he was good looking. Like I mean really handsome. Like you know? Like you know what I mean?"

(She must have seen Tall Guy in the flesh.)

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

If you really like this "like" button, we'd like you to, like, "like" it.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 6:35 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Good one, Grecchus. I personally would like a "like" button.

Mr. Greg, if you see this post, I'd like to know how you figured out dan's post. You are right in what you posted about the first and last part of his sentence. I don't get the middle part and wonder how you decoded any it. Are you a code expert in real life? smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 6:48 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Mr. Greg, if you see this post, I'd like to know how you figured out dan's post. You are right in what you posted about the first and last part of his sentence. I don't get the middle part and wonder how you decoded any it. Are you a code expert in real life? smile

Not in the slightest (I wish! Haha)....I was curious so copied and pasted it into Google Translate which threw up nothing, then as I was deleting the sentence out of the box Google updated itself (my work system does that...) and said "Did you mean 'Abortion is Murder'?"....then I realised what was going on. I don't get the middle bit either, but the use of the word "Are" makes me think it's some kind of pro-life group that this idiot supports.

"tehae pedelies ha elea deeeres"...the pedlish elders? Something like that...it's just gobbledygook. But apparently dan thinks it's another language. Which I find a tad worrying. Venusian, perhaps?

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 7:10 PM   
 By:   joan hue   (Member)

Or Martian. Thanks, Mr. Greg.

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   Mr Greg   (Member)

Or Martian. Thanks, Mr. Greg.

Not Martian - the grammar is wrong.

wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 2, 2014 - 7:30 PM   
 By:   edwzoomom   (Member)

edw, another bad habit that is rampant in almost all conversations is the use of the word "like" to start every sentence.

"Like I saw this guy the other day. Like he was good looking. Like I mean really handsome. Like you know? Like you know what I mean?"

(She must have seen Tall Guy in the flesh.)


joan, this made me laugh so much. This is my example of "like":

"This client called me back requesting a copy of the signed form and I'm like are you serious?. I'm like I already sent him one last week".

I actually heard this verbatim from a fellow employee.

 
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