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 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

SO, who is gonna be the first person to complain that it wasn't "historically accurate"

who?
ahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 2:32 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I think I read somewhere that the film deviates from the Bible story in some way to do with Noah and the age he had his kids. I'm sure I read that in the Bible story he didn't have the kids until he was 500!! I am (was?) a catholic but I only remember the Ark story vaguely and I don't remember anything about him being 500 and having kids at that age. I'm sure even at a young age I would have rolled my eyes at that one.

i guess Kevin gets the prize!
wink

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 2:36 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I think I read somewhere that the film deviates from the Bible story in some way to do with Noah and the age he had his kids. I'm sure I read that in the Bible story he didn't have the kids until he was 500!! I am (was?) a catholic but I only remember the Ark story vaguely and I don't remember anything about him being 500 and having kids at that age. I'm sure even at a young age I would have rolled my eyes at that one.

i guess Kevin gets the prize!
wink


They had Viagra back then? eek

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 2:57 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

TO SOLIUM- GOOD POINT[MOSES, CHARLTON HESTON]

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Well it has been discuss many times, the days, the months, years were much shorter?I remember years ago my niece said something that broke us up when she was a little kid. MOMMY HOW COME WE CAN'T LIVE THAT LONG?

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:15 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Afronosky,an atheist, feels he can embroider whatever fanciful ideas he has on to the Bible story.

Well, he can. He's making a movie, not a biblical documentary. And the story of Noah in the book is like 2 pages long. Maybe 2 paragraphs once you cut out all the repetition from chapter 2 chapter.

Also, and I may be opening a can of worms here, but I find it funny in some of the reviews I've seen how people complain about how the message is different than it was in the Bible. I mean, the Biblical Noah story was adapted from other, older stories and repurposed for its new context, and now it's being adapted again and repurposed again and people are crying foul.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:41 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Afronosky,an atheist, feels he can embroider whatever fanciful ideas he has on to the Bible story.

Well, he can. He's making a movie, not a biblical documentary. And the story of Noah in the book is like 2 pages long. Maybe 2 paragraphs once you cut out all the repetition from chapter 2 chapter.


Right but most of it doesn't even work that well as a movie. The problem is not so much that he changes things from the story but that they don't really seem to work with the rest of the movie.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   gone   (Member)

Afronosky,an atheist, feels he can embroider whatever fanciful ideas he has on to the Bible story.

Also, and I may be opening a can of worms here, but I find it funny in some of the reviews I've seen how people complain about how the message is different than it was in the Bible. I mean, the Biblical Noah story was adapted from other, older stories and repurposed for its new context, and now it's being adapted again and repurposed again and people are crying foul.


Yes, truly fresh material has been tougher to come by over the last several ages, what with all the hashing together of each other's myths and origin tales.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Right but most of it doesn't even work that well as a movie. The problem is not so much that he changes things from the story but that they don't really seem to work with the rest of the movie.

Agreed.

 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 7:44 PM   
 By:   Dyfrynt   (Member)


Also, and I may be opening a can of worms here, but I find it funny in some of the reviews I've seen how people complain about how the message is different than it was in the Bible. I mean, the Biblical Noah story was adapted from other, older stories and repurposed for its new context, and now it's being adapted again and repurposed again and people are crying foul.


Unfortunately a considerable amount of christians in the U.S. would have no clue what you are talking about.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 8:08 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

I wouldn't worry too much about biblical accuracy for today's audiences.
Half of them probably go to the movie thinking Noah was the guy swallowed by a whale.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

And Moses didn't look like Charles Heston. It's a Hollywood movie folks. roll eyes

Actually Heston was cast , according to Mr. DeMille, because he did look like the famous statue of Moses by Michaelangelo -

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2014 - 10:55 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Afronosky,an atheist, feels he can embroider whatever fanciful ideas he has on to the Bible story.

Well, he can. He's making a movie, not a biblical documentary. And the story of Noah in the book is like 2 pages long. Maybe 2 paragraphs once you cut out all the repetition from chapter 2 chapter.


Right but most of it doesn't even work that well as a movie. The problem is not so much that he changes things from the story but that they don't really seem to work with the rest of the movie.


That is true.

Actually it doesnt matter that Aronofsky is an athesist - so was John Huston and I liked his Noah in THE BIBLE...IN THE BEGINNING. I welcome imaginative filmmaking on all stories from the Bible -- it is just that this director's embroidery is confusing and counterintuitive.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2014 - 1:06 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

And Moses didn't look like Charles Heston. It's a Hollywood movie folks. roll eyes

Actually Heston was cast , according to Mr. DeMille, because he did look like the famous statue of Moses by Michaelangelo -


Moses birth date: 1525 BC. Michelangelo's birth date: 1564 AD. Guess Michelangelo would know. wink
Seriously, interesting factoid I wasn't aware of. There is a striking resemblance between the sculpture and the actor!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2014 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Well, waddaya know!
I don't know if I was just in a really good mood, but I thoroughly enjoyed Noah last night.
The film is a hoot!
It’s like a crazy retro-sci-fi mix of Lord of the Rings and Transformers via Ken Russell (think Altered States), with Biblical stuff thrown in. I actually enjoyed it more than most films I’ve seen this past 12 months. I was certainly never bored and even managed to put up with Ray 'one role' Winstone and that wooden, posh girl from Harry Potter.
Bonkers…but great fun.
Score ain’t bad either, works great in the film tho I wouldn’t want to hear too much of it on it’s own.

 
 Posted:   Apr 15, 2014 - 5:24 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Not Aronofsky's best movie.

But a hell of a lot better than most of the assembly-line trash being inflicted on the multiplexes these days (I'm looking at you, dystopian chick-lit movie producers, and Marvel of course).

 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Ironic that sectarian interpretation orthodoxy would break out on a board about a movie with the same theme.

Noah and the Big Burly Chieftan-guy have two different takes on human nature and "our reason for being", and the movie kinda plays out along that line, plus two other major lines.

But if you insist on theologic congruance, please bear in mind that this board is partially about movies--mostly really--and we have some reverence for the imagination.

It should be an honor to have one's sacred moral tale done by a great movie guy like Aronofsky. You're privileged.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 17, 2014 - 11:27 PM   
 By:   philiperic   (Member)

Ironic that sectarian interpretation orthodoxy would break out on a board about a movie with the same theme.

Noah and the Big Burly Chieftan-guy have two different takes on human nature and "our reason for being", and the movie kinda plays out along that line, plus two other major lines.

But if you insist on theologic congruance, please bear in mind that this board is partially about movies--mostly really--and we have some reverence for the imagination.

It should be an honor to have one's sacred moral tale done by a great movie guy like Aronofsky. You're privileged.


Privileged? Really ?? Please explain.

oh and it isnt really my "sacred moral tale" - the story of an ancient world wide flood seems to be part of most faiths or cultures.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2014 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

Seriously, interesting factoid I wasn't aware of. There is a striking resemblance between the sculpture and the actor!


Except Chucky didn't have horns!

The Hebrew word for a 'horn' and that for a 'beam' or 'ray' are the same, it just means a sort of projection. Moses came down from Sinai with his face lit up. Unfortunately many early Bible translators opted for the least logical!


To date, most intelligent Moses adaptation is 'Moses the Lawgiver' by Burgess, with Burt Lancaster.

 
 Posted:   Apr 20, 2014 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   WILLIAMDMCCRUM   (Member)

oh and it isnt really my "sacred moral tale" - the story of an ancient world wide flood seems to be part of most faiths or cultures.


Yes, but it refers to the 'waters of chaos' which is universal archetype. People never internalise these things.

 
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