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I'm sure the composer will reference Williams at various points in the film. But I wonder if Episode 7 as a film will reflect one of the modern action movie styles, like Bourne or Inception, with a lot of real tough, violent, fast-paced fighting, as opposed to the vintage sci-fi style SW is famous for. Maybe some cutesy Jar-Jaresque kiddy character gets his head blown off in the first reel, and then all bets are off. And would that be good or bad?
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Can I just say I am soooooooo unexcited about Star Wars episode 7. The last good Star Wars film was made in 1980, for goodness sake. And, I don't care who scores is — if it's not Williams the problem they're going to have is the same problem Bond composers have: if you're too much like Williams, you're pastiching; and if you're not you're disregarding the tradition. It's a lose-lose deal. Well, creatively that is. I really wish they would leave classics alone. Before long people will have forgotten that Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back were actually good, because they'll be obscured by the collective memory of the series as a whole — which is that it is utter rubbish. Cheers
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I think John Williams should score it, but if not, somebody like Talgorn or McNeely could continue the sound and style we associate with the films.
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My vote goes for McNeely. He has done some awesome work on Shadows of the Empire and The Young Indiana Jones series. I think he would be able to carry the Williams baton quite nicely with a new Star Wars. And it would be nice to see him get a really high profile project. He's one of the most underrated composers working today. I agree. Frankly I don't think Mr G. has the chops to fill Williams' shoes. Unless he goes back in time to his earlier days when he was channeling Williams' style that is. I think Abrams ruined him to a degree. I find his action writing very noisy and not overtly well put together. Clunky is the term I'd use. Anyhow, I think McNeely could do a fine job. Would be nice if he got a project like this. I've come to like Zimmer for what he does but I think he would be the wrong choice for this franchise. John Powell might be interesting IF they had to go with a Media Ventures sound however. He definitely knows how to compose good themes.
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Oct 31, 2012 - 11:10 AM
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John Mullin
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I would guess that since Lucas himself is no longer calling the shots, composers who have worked within the LucasFilm organization prior to this won't necessarily be at the top of the list. McNeely isn't exactly a big name in film music, you know, and I doubt that Disney is going to go cheap on any of these movies. Kathleen Kennedy is guiding the series now, and I think she'd be more likely to hire someone she's comfortable with (assuming the director doesn't have a regular collaborator that they can get approved by LFL and Disney). If Williams is unwilling or unable to do more pictures, I'd think that the much more obvious choice is James Newton Howard, who has worked with Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall on many of their other pictures, including several that Marshall directed himself. Like every other post on this thread, it's pure speculation, but it would make logical sense as there's a relationship there, and he's got the range and talent. Same goes for the creative personnel and the crew... Lucas bankrolling the prequels himself (and producing them outside of the DGA, the WGA, and SAG, as he did with RETURN OF THE JEDI in 1983), meant that he was limited in terms of who he could hire to do certain tasks. He courted both Lawrence Kasdan and Frank Darabont to write the script for Episode I (if only!)... both declined for various reasons, not the least of which was that the movies were not guild sanctioned. As new picture(s) are part of Disney, you can bet that all those guilds WILL be involved and there will be some top-shelf talent aboard.
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I must admit that my initial thought was Michael Giacchino, but still being mildly disappointed with his Star Trek score (the FSM podcast about it from the time of release pretty much expresses why it doesn't feel as stylistically fitting with the classic movie scores), I'm not 100%. However, I think if he was happy to go back to his early John Williams style, it's as competent a pastiche as McNeely's, he could incorporate it with the style he has developed since. I enjoyed John Carter (the most obvious reference point) but I am with those who find him occasionally a bit clunky, much though I hate to admit it. Strange though, his action for Pixar films (particularly Up and Ratatouille) is nimble and inspired, but when he got to Star Trek (in particular) it feels just that bit more generic. However, I think the Star Wars live action movies have such a distinctive style that they won't, unlike with Star Trek where there is less obvious musical continuity, go off in a particularly radical new direction. Notwithstanding the slightly different tone of the CGI Clone Wars stuff, there is less expectation there than with live action movies. If he did get the job, would Giacchino be the only composer to score a Star Trek and Star Wars feature?!
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