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 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 2:37 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

I think my dominant thought concerns film quality. Lets see these shows return to the realm of sensical & enjoyable first. I gotta echo Thor`s (?) sentiments - too early for anything.

It *would* be nice to see Mark Hamill reprise his Jedi self again, on the Biggeth Screeneth.

AND yes, lets see the original unfucked-with trilogy brought to BluRay already...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 2:49 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

@DavidCoscina:

Just listned to THE RACE by Mike Verta...MAn this is awesome..
I know this sounds maybe blasphemic but hell he sounds like WILLIAMS!!!

Better than most of the guys out there pretending to be "FilmComposer"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 3:10 AM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

It'll either be Williams... or a Williams imitator.

One of those would be brilliant. The other, not so much!

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 3:16 AM   
 By:   ZapBrannigan   (Member)

I'm sure the composer will reference Williams at various points in the film.

But I wonder if Episode 7 as a film will reflect one of the modern action movie styles, like Bourne or Inception, with a lot of real tough, violent, fast-paced fighting, as opposed to the vintage sci-fi style SW is famous for. Maybe some cutesy Jar-Jaresque kiddy character gets his head blown off in the first reel, and then all bets are off.

And would that be good or bad?

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 3:29 AM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

Peter Griffin can score it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHAeXoHDSf4


He's really adept at Williams's style...

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 3:48 AM   
 By:   Warlok   (Member)

Peter Griffin can score it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHAeXoHDSf4


He's really adept at Williams's style...



That

Is

Classic

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 3:54 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Can I just say I am soooooooo unexcited about Star Wars episode 7.

The last good Star Wars film was made in 1980, for goodness sake.

And, I don't care who scores is — if it's not Williams the problem they're going to have is the same problem Bond composers have: if you're too much like Williams, you're pastiching; and if you're not you're disregarding the tradition. It's a lose-lose deal. Well, creatively that is.

I really wish they would leave classics alone. Before long people will have forgotten that Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back were actually good, because they'll be obscured by the collective memory of the series as a whole — which is that it is utter rubbish.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

Wow.

I do agree Michael Giacchino is probably the most suitable candidate for the new movies if Johnny doesn't do them for whatever reason, and a fairly likely one, though it's too early to say for sure. Joel McNeely and Kevin Kiner are also both obvious possibilities; all three have some Star Wars experience already.

It would feel very strange to see a live-action Star Wars movie that doesn't start with the Fox fanfare. I wonder whether there's any chance Fox could be retained as distributor for the new movies. Disney does at least appear to be taking that path with the Marvel universe movies, releasing Iron Man 3 through the same distributor (Paramount) that handled the first two movies - likely just because of a pre-existing distribution deal, but it does at least show that it's possible. I'd like to think they'd consider doing that again here purely as a creative decision, even if it's not contractually mandated...

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 5:32 AM   
 By:   John-73   (Member)

Not sure what to make of this news, except the fact that Monsieur Lucas seems to have gone back on his word (last year, I believe) that they'd never be any more Star Wars films. Still fresh blood, new directors with Lucas serving as overall story consultant could work quite well - Empire didn't turn out too badly after-all wink

I'd like to think John Williams will still be able to score at least episode 7 of this new trilogy, to set the tone/feel. Failing that, I agree that Joel McNeely (often listen to his superb Shadows of the Empire score) would be ideal. Or Christopher Young...

Selfishly, I hope this means we'll FINALLY get the remasters of ALL the scores, to do Williams' music justice in terms of consistent sound quality at long last.

John.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Vermithrax Pejorative   (Member)

I think John Williams should score it, but if not, somebody like Talgorn or McNeely could continue the sound and style we associate with the films.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 6:47 AM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

If Williams doesn't score the next Star Wars film score the obvious choice is Michael Giacchino.

-Erik-


THIS!

I'm very excited about the prospects of this. These are serial adventure movies - the more the better. Without the constraints of having to "explain" the following three movies with senate drama and so much seriousness, I am hoping these will be much better.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 7:38 AM   
 By:   mrchriswell   (Member)

Anyone but Zimmer! That is all.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:07 AM   
 By:   MattyT   (Member)

My vote goes for McNeely. He has done some awesome work on Shadows of the Empire and The Young Indiana Jones series. I think he would be able to carry the Williams baton quite nicely with a new Star Wars. And it would be nice to see him get a really high profile project. He's one of the most underrated composers working today.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

I think they'll get someone like Bill Ross or Bruce Broughton to adapt Williams' themes as you need an expert film conductor to do the freetime conducting required (most of Williams' cues having that ebb and flow that even variable click can't provide and which makes the music so effective in the films), as was done by Alexander Courage and Ken Thorne on the "Superman" sequels, Williams contributing special thematic material where needed.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

My vote goes for McNeely. He has done some awesome work on Shadows of the Empire and The Young Indiana Jones series. I think he would be able to carry the Williams baton quite nicely with a new Star Wars. And it would be nice to see him get a really high profile project. He's one of the most underrated composers working today.

I agree. Frankly I don't think Mr G. has the chops to fill Williams' shoes. Unless he goes back in time to his earlier days when he was channeling Williams' style that is. I think Abrams ruined him to a degree. I find his action writing very noisy and not overtly well put together. Clunky is the term I'd use.

Anyhow, I think McNeely could do a fine job. Would be nice if he got a project like this.

I've come to like Zimmer for what he does but I think he would be the wrong choice for this franchise. John Powell might be interesting IF they had to go with a Media Ventures sound however. He definitely knows how to compose good themes.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

I agree. Frankly I don't think Mr G. has the chops to fill Williams' shoes. Unless he goes back in time to his earlier days when he was channeling Williams' style that is. I think Abrams ruined him to a degree. I find his action writing very noisy and not overtly well put together.

There was a very sharp turn in his sound with the first Call Of Duty game, which I think was pre-Abrams? But yes, since he's continued with Abrams, that particular vocabulary seems to be used again and again with little change (Parts of Speed Racer and Up being the only exceptions I can think of).

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   John Mullin   (Member)

I would guess that since Lucas himself is no longer calling the shots, composers who have worked within the LucasFilm organization prior to this won't necessarily be at the top of the list. McNeely isn't exactly a big name in film music, you know, and I doubt that Disney is going to go cheap on any of these movies.

Kathleen Kennedy is guiding the series now, and I think she'd be more likely to hire someone she's comfortable with (assuming the director doesn't have a regular collaborator that they can get approved by LFL and Disney). If Williams is unwilling or unable to do more pictures, I'd think that the much more obvious choice is James Newton Howard, who has worked with Kathleen Kennedy and Frank Marshall on many of their other pictures, including several that Marshall directed himself. Like every other post on this thread, it's pure speculation, but it would make logical sense as there's a relationship there, and he's got the range and talent.

Same goes for the creative personnel and the crew... Lucas bankrolling the prequels himself (and producing them outside of the DGA, the WGA, and SAG, as he did with RETURN OF THE JEDI in 1983), meant that he was limited in terms of who he could hire to do certain tasks. He courted both Lawrence Kasdan and Frank Darabont to write the script for Episode I (if only!)... both declined for various reasons, not the least of which was that the movies were not guild sanctioned. As new picture(s) are part of Disney, you can bet that all those guilds WILL be involved and there will be some top-shelf talent aboard.

 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Tom Guernsey   (Member)

I must admit that my initial thought was Michael Giacchino, but still being mildly disappointed with his Star Trek score (the FSM podcast about it from the time of release pretty much expresses why it doesn't feel as stylistically fitting with the classic movie scores), I'm not 100%. However, I think if he was happy to go back to his early John Williams style, it's as competent a pastiche as McNeely's, he could incorporate it with the style he has developed since.

I enjoyed John Carter (the most obvious reference point) but I am with those who find him occasionally a bit clunky, much though I hate to admit it. Strange though, his action for Pixar films (particularly Up and Ratatouille) is nimble and inspired, but when he got to Star Trek (in particular) it feels just that bit more generic. However, I think the Star Wars live action movies have such a distinctive style that they won't, unlike with Star Trek where there is less obvious musical continuity, go off in a particularly radical new direction. Notwithstanding the slightly different tone of the CGI Clone Wars stuff, there is less expectation there than with live action movies.

If he did get the job, would Giacchino be the only composer to score a Star Trek and Star Wars feature?!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 11:55 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

The answer is clear.


"Great, now we got to do the rest of this thing with Danny Elfman!"

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 31, 2012 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Joe E.   (Member)

If he did get the job, would Giacchino be the only composer to score a Star Trek and Star Wars feature?!

The only one to do feature films in both franchises, yeah, but if you expand it to include both movies and television, Kevin Kiner already has him beat, having already scored several episodes of Star Trek: Enterprise as well as most or all of Star Wars: The Clone Wars (the 2008 movie and the TV series that followed).

 
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