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Dear Lukas Kendall...
It is time to move FSM into the year 2018., and beyond.
This place is so outdated.
My main issue is....I don’t buy CDs anymore...can we not have two version...The very old way..cds for sale..cds..ain’t that a 1980’s deal.
The bright new future is digital downloads...ie Apple, Google and Amazon.
Mr. Kendall..and La La Land and others who produce 3000 cds can u not start offering Digital Downloads...I am not buying anymore CD’s...takes up too much space...
Please!!!
Thanks
Sure we will make sure every record label revolves around your needs. ( Rolling My Eyes)
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Feb 2, 2018 - 10:32 AM
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HARRYO
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Great thread. If you look at Amazon, of course plenty of CDS, but then on Digital Downloads, many instances of music that are available digitally only.
It's like the problem we all had last Century when CDS seemed to make LPS obsolete. In fact I was just reading a few letters in a issue of GRAMOPHONE, from someone saying he had thousands of LPS and he wasn't going to start investing in CDS. Not just the space, but the cost . Now we know LPS haven't gone away, and in fact are making a very strong comeback
I think this stage of the debate, there is room for both. I still would like to be offered the choice in purchasing Soundtracks in both formats . I take it the main players haven't got the digital rights , and so be it, but one day things will have to change - maybe not in this decade though.
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I used to be a "CD-only" guy.
Then it dawned on me that it doesn't matter what format the material is released on, because as long as it is a lossless presentation, I can store it and play it however I want (as the current technology permits).
CD's are just so damned cool, that I would never want them to stop, but 30 years ago I said the same thing about vinyl.
Sorry for rambling... I'm not sure I said everything just right, but I had some thoughts to get out of me head.
Yes, but there is a caveat: the CDs (and the lossless digital files) I have are DRM free, they are not tied to any system, player, format, or whatever. I can convert them from AIFF to Flac to AAC, I can copy them for my car etc. And I can tag and sort them any way I want, play them in iTunes or Windows Media Player or (mostly) on my home stereo system. So if I ever buy lossless files, I would not want them to be tied to anything.
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I got with Cd's only for a number of reasons, including but not limited to:
I physically own it; its not going to get deleted by accident and I don't have to pay to keep hearing it with a streaming service. Short of having it stolen (or rare bronzing), I won't lose the CD.
Re-sell value. Though that's diminishing as folks go with downloads.
I don't get any bullshit about it being restricted because of where I live. And if it's a CD only sold in one country or available in one country, I can still get other ways; I don't have to resort to illegally downloading it or changing settings to fool the region detection.
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solium wrote:
As long as there's a vinyl market, there should most certainly be a CD market.
I'm not sure I agree here.
People who move from digital back (and yes, it IS backwards) to vinyl aren't doing so because it's a more convenient format. Indeed, any objective analysis will show that it's a less convenient format. (The medium itself is more bulky, the player requires consumable needles, and the very acting of playing the vinyl physically degrades it).
Rather, people are moving back to vinyl because they prefer the sound and/or they're pretentious twats.
People moving from CD to downloads do so because it's more convenient for them. Nobody, to the best of my knowledge, is claiming that the sound quality is superior; indeed, just looking at the numbers you can see that the sound quality is often inferior. However most people simply can't hear the difference. As availability improves, and storage (at home, or in the cloud) becomes cheaper and more reliable, your average consumer will have no need for physical media, and media owners will have no reason to continue to issue CDs.
Those who use vinyl, on the other hand, will see no advantage in downloads over CDs, and therefore stick with vinyl. They'll probably remain a niche, but profitable market for some years to come.
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Feb 2, 2018 - 12:11 PM
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SchiffyM
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Rather, people are moving back to vinyl because they prefer the sound and/or they're pretentious twats.
I agree, although I would add that I think some go to vinyl because it feels substantive to them. They have a physical connection with them that they don't have with CDs, despite CDs being physical objects, of course. And some use vinyl as a badge, proving their love for a certain band, or for music integrity in general. (Some of these are from your second category, but I don't think all are.) A friend of mine (who's a musician) says he like vinyl because the need to get up and flip it every twenty minutes forces you to pay attention, when so much music is in the background now, playing infinitely.
The thing is, playing a digital file is the same whether you play it from your hard drive or from a plastic disc. Like them or not (and I don't, especially), vinyl is a different experience.
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CD's are just so damned cool, that I would never want them to stop, but 30 years ago I said the same thing about vinyl.
And here is the irony. Some asking for the labels to enter the 21st century, cut down on cost and clutter, yet we have this unforeseen resurgence in vinyl. As long as there's a vinyl market, there should most certainly be a CD market.
The Solium Insight
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Feb 2, 2018 - 4:27 PM
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joan hue
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Being a Baby Boomer, technology has outpaced my aging brain cells. I can text on my phone and handle some computer functions, and that is about it. I’ve never downloaded anything, and I really don’t want to learn.
Therefore I rely on CDs. However, I have become VERY DEPRESSED in the past few days. I just ordered a 2018 Kia Sportage, the top of the line Sportage. I picked it up last week, and the seller took me through all the options. Oh, my aching head. I just wanted to set up my Sirius radio, learn where drive, neutral, reverse and park were and move on. 
He started to show me all of these fancy features including where I could play Pandora, etc. and I waved him away. I didn’t need to confuse my aging mind anymore.
Three days ago I took my CDs out to play because I play my film scores in my car. @#$%^&@#$%6 it!!! There was no CD player in this car!!! NONE. I called the dealership, and they said most new cars have drop CD players, and that I could download music to this and that and this and that.
Moreover, most stores in my area are phasing out CDs. Yes, I can buy CDs on line, but my car doesn’t have a player. If you are driving, you can’t put a portable CD player into your car and wear earphones because that is just plain unsafe.
I am pissed off and bereft.
Beware when you buy your next car.
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Spotify is now about my favorite way to listen to music, even though I keep buying soundtrack and some other CDs, mainly because that's the only way they are available.
For example, I just downloaded the Vangelis Delectus set (including lots of my favorite albums, especially the hard-to-find "See You Later") onto my phone for easy bluetooth listening in the car.
Right, the sound is not CD quality, but it's easy and if I don't like what I'm listening to, I have millions of other choices.
(I'm a boomer too, but I'm the kind that likes playing with new technology.)
My 2017 Ford Escape did come with a CD player without asking for it, which actually surprised me.
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