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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2015 - 9:42 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I basically cut my teeth on vinyl. My first soundtrack purchases were vinyl releases like THE GUNS OF NAVARONE, BEN-HUR, LAWRENCE OF ARABIA, etc. They produced a lot of excitement and I loved the packaging. I resisted CDs (mainly for financial reasons) until the labels stopped releasing new soundtracks on vinyl. However, I quickly realized CDs were a superior format in every way (except cover art). I have absolutely NO NOSTALGIA for vinyl other than missing the large format artwork. I too just don't get this craze for this out-dated, inferior technology.
I has to be a collector's thing or a nostalgia thing or maybe a hipster thing, because it can't be for the superior sound or durability...LPs don't have either of those.

But more power to Intrada if it makes them money to support new CD releases of classic unreleased scores.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2015 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I has to be a collector's thing or a nostalgia thing or maybe a hipster thing

I don't think it's a nostalgia thing, because the people I know who have started buying vinyl ("vinyls," they call what we used to call "records") were all born after CDs took over.

Your other two suggestions are both part of it, I think. Vinyls are a badge of integrity to some. It shows you care enough about your music that you're willing to neglect the convenience of CDs or digital files.

But I think it goes further than that. I think many vinyl purchasers are looking to connect in a way that they don't with digital files. The act of taking care of a record somehow brings them closer to the music. Many of these people own no CDs -- it's all digital files on their hard drives (or in the cloud) or LPs. These people find CDs a pointless waste of space, but an LP is something they can love.

Mind you, I'm not one of those people. I have no fondness for LPs. But the resurgence of vinyl cannot be easily dismissed as a pretentious and empty gesture. Many people are drawn to them as a way to better appreciate their music.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2015 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   smuli of finland   (Member)

When everything has been re-issued a half-a-dozen times in the past twenty years or so, all that is left is The Re-Issue In Another Format. Therefore I welcome Vinyl LPs, 8-Tracks, Casettes, MiniDiscs and every other format to the market, as long as the record companies are making a profit, so they can release Compact Discs of good and interesting music still missing from my collection.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 12:26 AM   
 By:   Dana Wilcox   (Member)

But, are ppl actually listening to these albums? In this day and age where everyone is listening to their music on the go, I just don't understand this fad.

Perhaps you don't understand because your premise is flawed...

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 1:05 AM   
 By:   McD   (Member)

Someone once sent me a digital file ripped from vinyl to prove it was better sound. So, at least in some instances, the belief that vinyl is a superior listen bizarrely counts even when transferred to digital.

I got back to them that not only was the file packed with annoying vinyl pops, it also wasn't playing at the correct speed. "Well obviously, coz its vinyl. But it still sounds better doesn't it?"

Honestly, for a moment I felt like I was talking to a religious nut.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 2:16 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

24bit 96kHz vinyl.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 2:53 AM   
 By:   Martin B   (Member)

24bit 96kHz vinyl.

created from a 16bit 44kHz digital file

I'm sure Intrada and LLL will create theirs from the original hires masters and do a good job, but I know a lot of vinyl is created from the same master as the CD to save money. That's the problem these days, unless its done properly (ie money spent) any perceived improvement in sound is non-existent.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   The Thing   (Member)

Someone once sent me a digital file ripped from vinyl to prove it was better sound. So, at least in some instances, the belief that vinyl is a superior listen bizarrely counts even when transferred to digital.


Around 15 years ago, I borrowed a mate's record player so that I could transfer some of my old 12-inch singles (B-sides, extended remixes etc.) to uncompressed files on my PC, and then onto an audio CDR. This was rock music.

Aside from the occasional vinyl click or pop, which was hardly noticeable anyway, I am still convinced that the transfer quality contains a certain richness and depth that my other CDs of those bands' music didn't possess. Maybe it was they way other CDs were mastered, but if I could end up with a home-made CD sounding better than some purchased CDs, then I don't see why everything can't be mastered with the same depth and richness. Of course, my ears may just be bias because it was my own handiwork, lol.

I no longer own any vinyl, nor have any desire to, as I like the convenience of a CD, and that is the format of my entire collection so wouldn't want the odd title here and there on a different format.

Vinyl attracts static, which attracts dust. A needle physically touches the surface. I can't play vinyl in the car. Vinyl is big and clunky. So it's definitely not for me. But if some people can still be bothered with that format, that's up to them.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)


I'm curious as well. With the recent Varese release of the Nightmare on Elm Street set on CD, I google'd to see the reaction on other boards and even horror fora. I was surprised to find people asking if this was an LP release and being disappointed it was only CD. Now I know there are quite a few specialty labels catering to horror fans with limited vinyl editions with new artwork, but I was still surprised by such reactions.

I hope intrada can benefit from that market, they have a lot of great titles to put out on vinyl.


If Intrada and the other labels make money from this all is good. More revenue for more releases.

But, are ppl actually listening to these albums? In this day and age where everyone is listening to their music on the go, I just don't understand this fad.


Look fella's. I buy albums and 45's and have been since I was 12 years old and have never stopped. I have a PASSION that is unmatched for records and others who share my passion are strong and vocal. When things were at their worst for vinyl fiends from about 1986 to 1995 and a bit beyond. We wrote letters, made phone calls , wrote articles, appeared on radio shows advocating for vinyl releases. When an album was not issued on vinyl is the US- I bought Imports-because the United Kingdom, Japan and Germany kept on pressing through these lean years. I did not do this for any other reason than I LOVE RECORDS and I play them constantly.
This is not a fad- it's a renaissance! You don't hear about people talk lovingly or with any passion about the CD format.
Ya'll just don't understand and there is no use in you trying to understand me and my brethren. Just leave it alone already.
There have been many books, documentaries, articles, websites, organizations and the like about and for RECORD COLLECTORS and Vinyl over the years. How many CD documentaries, books etc have been released. NONE. That is because VINYL is still king with many-many people and it's growing. Vinyl sales are up over 50% from last year. There is a reason for that-don't you think. This past year I believe their have been about 15 vinyl presses discovered and the VINYL world is ecstatic, because that means more records and maybe faster "turnaround" times.

I will grant that some new folks think it's trendy, but that is a very small amount. Death Waltz Records I do not buy- I think they are ridiculous. Their releases are truncated and some sound horrible and fuck those shitty posters and PRICES! MONDO has much better releases IMO.

I collect Film Scores so I have to buy CD's and I've grown to "like" them to an extent. Box Sets are awesome for example. But if I had a choice between having The French Connection on Vinyl or CD. I would sell a kidney for the VINYL. Same goes for a lot of others. I would not have the same enthusiasm if for example Candleshoe came out on vinyl. That is why the labels who are starting to release need to think long and hard about what they out out on vinyl.
I mean VARESE releasing RUDY on vinyl is a real bad choice. I do like LA LA LAND's choice to release "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" I will buy this INTRADA release, but I am disappointed it's a "horror score"- as there are plenty of those being released. LOOK TO THE 70's my friends!

The French Connection, or Taking of Pelham 123 would SELL OUT! Guaranteed. Even OLD BOYFRIENDS would be great on Vinyl, because that score/CD plays just like the perfect POP album!

Gotta go, but I will be buying the new DEAD WEATHER 45 today and the Vinyl Album-just like I have all with all Jack White releases. Who the hell demands or wants Jack White on CD?! No one!

INTRADA- thank you and you have a loyal VINYL buying customer.

HATERS PLEASE STAY THE EFF OFF VINYL THREADS. Why don't you start your own thread and ya'll can bandy about your dislike, disdain and bewilderment amongst yourselves. .Or I'm going to keep chopping off your heads.

Shit I'll just start one for ya'll.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

You don't hear about people talk lovingly or with any passion about the CD format.


I do consider this a problem, though not first world. CDs have a PR problem. The medium is now over three decades old and while some packaging makes it look more contemporary and collectable (hard cover and regular digipaks, boxsets, ...), the CD with jewel case is considered ugly and dated. I will say for vinyl records, everything about it is an artwork. The sleeve, the record itself with the grooves and the way you can see it play all add to the charm. The "compact" disc can't compete in these areas and there is no air of romance in pop culture about owning CDs or playing them like there is with vinyl records. It says plenty when even a shitty audio cassette is now considered more hip than a CD. A shame, because as someone who has owned both vinyl and CD and has switched over completely to CD, I like the sturdy compact nature of CDs and consistent sound quality, running time, as well as the booklet and artwork.

I'm gonna have to start a "Make CDs sexy again" thread. wink

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 6:19 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

You don't hear about people talk lovingly or with any passion about the CD format.


I do consider this a problem, though not first world. CDs have a PR problem. The medium is now over three decades old and while some packaging makes it look more contemporary and collectable (hard cover and regular digipaks, boxsets, ...), the CD with jewel case is considered ugly and dated. I will say for vinyl records, everything about it is an artwork. The sleeve, the record itself with the grooves and the way you can see it play all add to the charm. The "compact" disc can't compete in these areas and there is no air of romance in pop culture about owning CDs or playing them like there is with vinyl records. It says plenty when even a shitty audio cassette is now considered more hip than a CD. A shame, because as someone who has owned both vinyl and CD and has switched over completely to CD, I like the sturdy compact nature of CDs and consistent sound quality, running time, as well as the booklet and artwork.

I'm gonna have to start a "Make CDs sexy again" thread. wink


You just reminded me how frustrating it was to get those damn LP's back into those flimsy sleeves! That was always a two minute battle. I'll stick with those "ugly" CD cases any day. Open, close, your done. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 7:26 AM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

If Intrada publishes Fielding on vinyl, artwork and all, I'll buy it and see how they can get it into the mailbox.

THE MECHANIC would be a desirable needle drop.

Meanwhile, "music, perfect ... forever".

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   Doc Loch   (Member)

Hard to believe there is not an abundance of surface noise. I would refrain from vinyl even if was the last medium Next

I much prefer cds to records, but I am considering getting a new high end record player to buy those Conti records not on cd such as THE KARATE KID PART II song album, GOTCHA, HARRY & TONTO and his DYNASTY/FALCON CREST single.

I think the key is to be willing to spend some money to get a really high quality system. I was skeptical about returning to vinyl because I had an old mid-priced turntable that I've owned for years. But once I invested in a decent turntable, amplifier and speakers I was surprised at how good the vinyl sounded. I seldom get any noticeable surface noise, and although I'm no audiophile it sounds to me like the high ends come through better. CDs are a convenience medium and I'll still buy them and play them at work and in the car, but when I'm home I really prefer listening to vinyl.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Hard to believe there is not an abundance of surface noise. I would refrain from vinyl even if was the last medium Next

I much prefer cds to records, but I am considering getting a new high end record player to buy those Conti records not on cd such as THE KARATE KID PART II song album, GOTCHA, HARRY & TONTO and his DYNASTY/FALCON CREST single.


I think the key is to be willing to spend some money to get a really high quality system. I was skeptical about returning to vinyl because I had an old mid-priced turntable that I've owned for years. But once I invested in a decent turntable, amplifier and speakers I was surprised at how good the vinyl sounded. I seldom get any noticeable surface noise, and although I'm no audiophile it sounds to me like the high ends come through better. CDs are a convenience medium and I'll still buy them and play them at work and in the car, but when I'm home I really prefer listening to vinyl.

Thanks for the info, I may just buy a new record player.smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2015 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Michael Bean   (Member)

I'm planning to wait for the Intrada LP to CD club. big grin

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2015 - 11:45 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

I hope "2 of 4" is in the clues in 2 weeks time....

Not sure why, but I don't feel that we will ever see such an announcement.




I get the feeling that Intrada will sneak it out there, a surprise like Psycho II was.

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2015 - 11:59 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm planning to wait for the Intrada LP to CD club. big grin

Are there even any scores released on LP by Intrada that have never made it to CD?

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Oct 2, 2015 - 12:54 PM   
 By:   gmontag451   (Member)

I'm planning to wait for the Intrada LP to CD club. big grin

Are there even any scores released on LP by Intrada that have never made it to CD?

Yavar


That's an interesting question. Is there a list of their LP releases? I've never actually seen an Intrada LP in person.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2015 - 2:28 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

So I bought a Sony record player and THE KARATE KID PART II soundtrack on lp, and HARRY & TONTO on lp and they sound great! With the exceotion of a pop here and there, it sounds really good. But I still prefer cds. Also, I just ordered DYNASTY/FALCON CREST and will order GOTCHA too.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2015 - 12:00 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Are there even any scores released on LP by Intrada that have never made it to CD?

I'm 99.782% sure that there are not. All of their releases dating back to their first LP ("Red Dawn") in 1985 can be found on this page:

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl?it=I&id=37#1985

 
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