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 Posted:   Feb 9, 2014 - 12:47 PM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

But the bit at the end really does sound like English film music. This trailer, which mentions the Academy Awards, is obviously not a pre-release version. They could have used Jarre's tracks if they wanted to.


That's a good point. 'Should've spotted that!

That increases the possibility that it has that 'late '60s/early '70s' feel for a reason.


If it were 'Brothers Karamazov' surely someone would know that score: the film's not that obscure. The thing has a Russian feel all right. There's a sort of clashing ostinato (sounds very Arnold) that suggests Moscow's bells at the start of the segment, which Lambert also used as an idea in 'Karenina'. But it's big epic music, so how many big Russian epics can there be from that period?


I dunno frown All I know is I'm gonna die without this song frown

so less talking and more searching please :3

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 7:44 AM   
 By:   mulan98   (Member)

This has fascinated me too over the years. It really was a fantastic trailer with great music.

Another interesting thing. Some MGM features released during 1965 had a 30 second teaser for Zhivago tacked onto the very end. "This is the year of Doctor Zhivago". I remember because its duration was the same as it took our curtains (you guys in the States call them something else) to close.

It also had a powerful fanfare type flourish not heard in the final score.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 10, 2014 - 10:52 AM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

This has fascinated me too over the years. It really was a fantastic trailer with great music.

Another interesting thing. Some MGM features released during 1965 had a 30 second teaser for Zhivago tacked onto the very end. "This is the year of Doctor Zhivago". I remember because its duration was the same as it took our curtains (you guys in the States call them something else) to close.

It also had a powerful fanfare type flourish not heard in the final score.


Why is no one else actually making hard efforts to look for this song? ; ~ ; google, bing, yahoo, c'mon c'mon c'mon!!! LETS DO THIS!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2014 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

Any results from our MOBILISED SEARCH yet? You folks HAVE started lookin' for this song right?

If not, that's okay ; ~ ; I can wait. . .

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 11, 2014 - 10:34 PM   
 By:   Stephen Pickard   (Member)

Before reading all your responses I imagined it was one long piece sliced up with brief interludes of Jarre's score.
Is there a possibility that it could have been written by the film's orchestrator Leo Arnaud? Not english, but the only alternative I can think of at the present.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

Why do I feel like you and I are the ONLY people searching for this song? >frown


PEOPLE WE NEED YOUR HELP SEARCHING.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 15, 2014 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

Why do I feel like you and I are the ONLY people searching for this song? >frown


PEOPLE WE NEED YOUR HELP SEARCHING.



dyplorus......you're quite new to the FSM Board.

When you've been here for awhile, say 5-10 years or so, you'll
come to realize that many of our most knowledgeable and informed
and respected posters have already entered their comments on
this thread.

So far, they've come up with no real answers because this kind of
question is one which generally needs internal studio documents to
supply, and then verify, an answer.

But stick around, because sooner or later---perhaps in one of those
5-10 years while you're concentrating your attention---someone will
likely discover the answer for you. I hope you'll stay on the Board
and watch for it.

I hope you'll also spend reading time here and learn to distinguish
between an orchestral film score theme and "a song".

In the meantime, I think you need to end your rather condescending
treatment of the posters here as your personal Search engine.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

Why do I feel like you and I are the ONLY people searching for this song? >frown


PEOPLE WE NEED YOUR HELP SEARCHING.



dyplorus......you're quite new to the FSM Board.

When you've been here for awhile, say 5-10 years or so, you'll
come to realize that many of our most knowledgeable and informed
and respected posters have already entered their comments on
this thread.

So far, they've come up with no real answers because this kind of
question is one which generally needs internal studio documents to
supply, and then verify, an answer.

But stick around, because sooner or later---perhaps in one of those
5-10 years while you're concentrating your attention---someone will
likely discover the answer for you. I hope you'll stay on the Board
and watch for it.

I hope you'll also spend reading time here and learn to distinguish
between an orchestral film score theme and "a song".

In the meantime, I think you need to end your rather condescending
treatment of the posters here as your personal Search engine.



They're not my personal search engine. You don't need to assume that this is how I see them, because it's not. I'm just asking for their help because I know they're a lot more likely to find it than I am. They know better than me, and I'm just asking for their help. I already know it's a film score theme. I call it a song because it's quicker.

Here's the difference between using them and asking them for help.

Using them as a personal search engine
If this were the case this is what one would sound like

"Hey you need to look up and for me. Do it now you worthless scum. I don't have it all day you idiot! Have you found my song for me yet?"


Vs.

What I'm actually saying.
Asking for their help

"C'mon guys I need your help looking for this thing! Let's go! Do we have any results? I still found nothing! This is incredibly hard to find, we need to all start searching for this at the same time. I feel like I'm the only one searching (no one else has told me whether they're searching too or not.)"

Mind you, I'm ALSO looking for this, to use them is to literally not be searching my self and to rely on them to do it for me. That's not the case. :V
Also, I don't know if anyone else is searching too or not, so I'm trying to encourage them to do so just in case they weren't doing it. It's still THEIR choice and they don't have to listen to me if they don't want to. :T


Also, I can call it a song as much as I please. Sometimes I'm on my phone and Its more difficult to type in the whole "orchestral film score theme" as opposed to a song. You can blame it on laziness as well as being a generational thing. But I feel that as long as people know what I'm talking about and as long as it's practically the same thing then I don't see any problems with calling it a song. Because that's what it is: A song. Orchestral Film Score Theme is not some sort of jargon word, (at least I don't think so...) so I see no need to say it.

But I will stick around. I just hope it doesn't take 5-10 years to access this tune >~>

If I were to contact MGM through an email, do you think I would be able to get an answer back?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 8:11 PM   
 By:   manderley   (Member)

.....If I were to contact MGM through an email, do you think I would be able to get an answer back?.....


No.

Because the company you think of today as MGM has absolutely
no connection with this film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 16, 2014 - 10:32 PM   
 By:   Stephen Pickard   (Member)

Warner Bros. has a library, off the lot, where they keep a lot of MGM material. I contacted them with the hope of reaching a contact I had there, only to find he had left a year ago and the woman on the phone said it wasn't a research library to outsiders, only for internal use. She suggested I contact Ned Comstock, who I believe is at UCLA.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2014 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

This is a separate question, but may I ask somebody to recount what is known of the main theme of the credits? (The popular "Lara" melody is sandwiched in as the "B" section.) It always struck me as the best music in the score, and yet it is almost entirely missing from the body of the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2014 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

OH no, Just when I thought I escaped having to see the word's "Lara's theme" >_<

I believe it is called lara's theme.


Stephen. Were you able to contact ned comstock? If you want maybe I can contact him? I live in Los Angeles. I can get to UCLA campus when I have the chance?

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2014 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

I notice that a lot of the same music is used in multiple trailers. In fact, some of the same music was used in a film about Boris Pasternak, and not necessarily doctor zhivago.

Common Denominator ?

THEY'RE ALL FROM THE THOMAS CRAVEN FILM CORPORATION.

So now I'm looking to see if maybe the music belongs to this film company. . .

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2014 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Doug Raynes   (Member)

OH no, Just when I thought I escaped having to see the word's "Lara's theme" >_<

I believe it is called lara's theme.



Rozsaphile is referring to the opening theme in the Main Titles which bookends "Lara's Theme". It is indeed one of the best themes in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2014 - 10:46 PM   
 By:   Stephen Pickard   (Member)

OH no, Just when I thought I escaped having to see the word's "Lara's theme" >_<

I believe it is called lara's theme.


Stephen. Were you able to contact ned comstock? If you want maybe I can contact him? I live in Los Angeles. I can get to UCLA campus when I have the chance?


I was planning on calling this week. Please go ahead if it is easy for you.

 
 Posted:   Feb 18, 2014 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

I dunno frown All I know is I'm gonna die without this song frown

Oh...well, then....!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2014 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

OH no, Just when I thought I escaped having to see the word's "Lara's theme" >_<

I believe it is called lara's theme.


Stephen. Were you able to contact ned comstock? If you want maybe I can contact him? I live in Los Angeles. I can get to UCLA campus when I have the chance?


I was planning on calling this week. Please go ahead if it is easy for you.


I think you should call no matter what.

 
 Posted:   Feb 21, 2014 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Lukas Kendall   (Member)

Warner Bros. has a library, off the lot, where they keep a lot of MGM material. I contacted them with the hope of reaching a contact I had there, only to find he had left a year ago and the woman on the phone said it wasn't a research library to outsiders, only for internal use. She suggested I contact Ned Comstock, who I believe is at UCLA.

Ned is at USC. I went through the M-G-M music material when we did FSM CDs, and I never came across anything related to advertising or trailers unless they were scored at the time of the film.

Lukas

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2014 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

Warner Bros. has a library, off the lot, where they keep a lot of MGM material. I contacted them with the hope of reaching a contact I had there, only to find he had left a year ago and the woman on the phone said it wasn't a research library to outsiders, only for internal use. She suggested I contact Ned Comstock, who I believe is at UCLA.

Ned is at USC. I went through the M-G-M music material when we did FSM CDs, and I never came across anything related to advertising or trailers unless they were scored at the time of the film.

Lukas


oi! is there any way we can get to this piece?!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 22, 2014 - 1:50 AM   
 By:   dyplorus   (Member)

Warner Bros. has a library, off the lot, where they keep a lot of MGM material. I contacted them with the hope of reaching a contact I had there, only to find he had left a year ago and the woman on the phone said it wasn't a research library to outsiders, only for internal use. She suggested I contact Ned Comstock, who I believe is at UCLA.

Ned is at USC. I went through the M-G-M music material when we did FSM CDs, and I never came across anything related to advertising or trailers unless they were scored at the time of the film.

Lukas


oi! is there any way we can get to this piece?!

 
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