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 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 11:13 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Interesting that you would mention Vangelis' Blade Runner within the context of the chosen subject, for I remember a critic (David Denby?) coining Ridley Scott's visual style as the "IRT at midnight" look. That phrase conjures up a distinct picture in the mind's eye and has been eerily similar to many a lost-in-New York-at-night bad dream. eek

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 11:41 AM   
 By:   Mr. Shark   (Member)

Mark Isham's BAD LIEUTENANT and Harrison Birtwhistle's THE OFFENCE come to mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 11:42 AM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

How about Herrmann's music for the few City scenes in "On Dangerous Ground"? -- especially "Solitude":

http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/store/MP3/0618/02_SOLITUDE.MP3

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

A Day in New York Ballet by Leonard Bernstein featured in On The Town captures the "dusk" sound well with some distant trumpets. The opening bars of the Main Title / Overture from the same film captures the movement of New York better than anything I've ever heard for that particular era.

Reich's City Life is a very different take on things, but defintely worth the listen. City Life is what the city "really" sounds like.

Pelham 123 or Taxi Driver are probably still the standards for the more modern NY.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 12:38 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Goldenthal's Heat is decent, but some of the tasty "city" cues are by Moby (e.g., when Hanna and Neal meetup on the 405).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 1:06 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Leonard Bernstein's yearning main theme for "On the Waterfront" is also in this territory, I would think.

I recall that Aaron Copland's work, "Quiet City", based on a stage score, might qualify here -- as might some of his cues for "Something Wild."

Some of Elmer Bernstein's music for "The Sweet Smell of Success" perhaps, too?

For me the benchmark for capturing "The Musical Poetry of Urban Soundscapes" has to be the music of Charles Ives: "Central Park in the Dark."

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 2:05 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Nice picks McM. You must be from my neck of the woods. :-)

I didn't choose On the Waterfront bc, to me, the french horns are calling ... simple New Jersey men to confront the corruption of the waterfront. I see it as more of a "common man" theme, as opposed to a "NYC waterfront" theme.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

Probably part of what colors my response to "Waterfront" is the incredibly beautiful song version of the main theme which has lyrics by the great John Latouche. It is rarely performed, but is sublime.

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 4:23 PM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

Nice McM.

Can you please post those lyrics? I have never heard them, but I have all of the Bernstein performances of OTW.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 4:34 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

I will probably have to transcribe them from this CD show album from a terrific off-Broadway show about Latouche:

http://www.amazon.com/Taking-Chance-Love-Latouche-Off-Broadway/dp/B00005423W/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1326324474&sr=8-11

as I couldn't find an online websource. I will try to do this tonight -- note that the sample on the Amazon site doesn't give much of a sample of the song itself -- it has more of a poem written by Latouche that was spoken in tandem with the sung song for the Off Broadway show in which it appeared. I'm very prejudiced about this recording, however -- it contains a thank you to me in the liner notes!

 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   mastadge   (Member)

Craig Armstrong's The Bone Collector.

Not a film score exactly, but Daugherty's Superman-inspired Metropolis Symphony might also have some of what you're looking for.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

By the way, Dogbelle once made a video (in jest?) about the search for myself after I had posted in the weather thread about a very cold Oslo day and posted some pics as well. He took those photos (which also included my apartment building!) and assembled them into a collage, adding Vangelis' music from THE BOUNTY as soundtrack.

That music had always felt very sweltering and warm to me (especially as it was used over the film's opening credits), but in this new context it suddenly took on a part cool, part urban atmosphere. Although it isn't exactly a regular film score, I think it is somehow fitting in a thread like this nonetheless:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 8:40 PM   
 By:   John McMasters   (Member)

As promised, here is my transcription of the John Latouche song of "On the Waterfront" with the spoken text as presented in the musical revue "Taking a Chance on Love." It certainly expresses an urban moodiness:

On the Waterfront/”Beside the Troubled Waters of the Hudson”
from the musical revue “Taking a Chance on Love--the Lyrics and Life of John Latouche”

Spoken text from journals of John Latouche
Sung lyrics by John Latouche with music by Leonard Bernstein

Spoken:
Tonight I cannot sleep.
Earlier in the cinema, I was almost asleep.
But now I am home, the bed waiting.
I cannot sleep, anywhere, except my own bed.

Sung:
I wait on the waterfront
The harbor lights are burning low
It’s late on the waterfront

Spoken:
Beside the troubled waters of the Hudson,
With the dark wind wandering,
I heard the feet of strangers passing by,
And wheels on the bridge thundering.
Each sound in the ruined night
was sharp, clear, pierced with hunger.
Each man was my brother
still unknown, loved, a lonely stranger,

Sung:
Without you
I’m all at sea
Alone as can be

Spoken:
Pitiless is every man to his own being.
Harsh without warmth in his stormy weather.
Denying to his chilly heart’s hearth
the want that he will not grant another.

Sung:
I wait on the waterfront
And hope that fate
Will lead you straight to me

It was a lovely moment in the show. Hope this hasn't derailed your thread, Thor!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 11, 2012 - 8:43 PM   
 By:   dan the man   (Member)

Herbie Hancock's Death wish-74?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 2:45 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I just remembered another one:

Elliot Goldenthal's GOLDEN GATE! (I still haven't been able to find & see the film, though).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And here are a couple of more cues that have the feel I'm looking for:

Jonathan Elias - TWO MOON JUNCTION - "1000 Mile Stare"
Jonathan Elias - SHAKEDOWN/BLUE JEAN COP - "I Gotta Go"

And also the first 1:50 from this:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Speaking of JNH, FALLING DOWN also has several cues in this territory. Like the second half of "Pacific Ocean". The soulful SAX seems to be a recurring theme here. Which makes me think that Mark Isham must have more examples, except for ROMEO IS BLEEDING? CRASH has a little bit, but not that much. That's more beautiful textures of another kind.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 5:10 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Here's "West L.A." from FALLING DOWN:

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 5:16 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

James Newton Howard is really good at this. THE FUGITIVE theme has some of it too:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qy1k4ezoF74

And the opening from THE SAINT OF FORT WASHINGTON:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YI_3-8lPiQ&feature=related

 
 Posted:   Jan 12, 2012 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   lexedo   (Member)

McM: Seems like it would have been a special time during the show. The lyrics will take some time to analyze for sure. I'm no pro! :-)

We derailed Thor's thread well - sorry to take the Great Generation perspective. There is so much there: Raymond Scott's PowerHouse; those xylophone lines and "brass" car-horns. How about Manhattan Serenade for landing at LAX or SA John Wayne? Cool stuff.

But so is more modern perspectives, like Goldenthal's Heat. The cue I mentioned above is a classic Michael Mann car sequence, with a "wheel-shot" and the great rock guitar line. It works well. (It's 2 guitars doing a C-minor riff, and then the same riff down in F-minor for even more tension.) The bank robbery sequence starts with all percussion; it's very unique, and I like it. The main and end titles are very colorful and open, and I believe performed by the Kronos Quartet.

The Lisa Gerrard Beruit sequence from The Insider is a another modern take that I appreciate. In contrast, the ending of the same, when Bergman walks out, is that way NY is now - moving hard (the rhythm), but standing still (the piano). Very interesting for sure.


I'm at the office now, so I can't review Thor's other examples. I'll check them out later.

 
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