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 Posted:   Nov 3, 2009 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

BlueK, they are both fine scores. I don't know what to say because I don't know what you are really trying to find in these things. If you want MY endorsement, I say go for it.

I love that rolling piano all through the main title of BDB.

Roy Budd is always interesting, too.


I try to look for stuff that's catchy and almost instantly becomes memorable for me on the first listen. smile At least, that's what I find most enjoyable. With film music in general I usually have to give things a second or third listen to get a grasp of their, um, complexities.

If Intrada still has it at their store by Monday when they put out their new CDs, I'll make a decision then.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 10:56 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

We're listening to this release right now (onto track two of THE FINAL OPTION as I type this), fresh outta the mailbox, and I am SO glad that Kritzerland released these two scores on a single CD. They are completely different in style, each great in its own right, yet are very compatible for back-to-back listening.

Bruce, I hope you don't ever start outsourcing the liner notes for your releases. I really dig your candid approach, insightful comments, and personal anecdotes. Keep on doing what you do so well.

 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 11:03 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

Well, I couldn't help but keep playing the Ambush sample on repeat all day long. I decided I'll order it, though not right this moment, I'll likely wait a couple of days when my paycheck arrives. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 5, 2009 - 11:59 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

We're listening to this release right now (onto track two of THE FINAL OPTION as I type this), fresh outta the mailbox, and I am SO glad that Kritzerland released these two scores on a single CD. They are completely different in style, each great in its own right, yet are very compatible for back-to-back listening.

Bruce, I hope you don't ever start outsourcing the liner notes for your releases. I really dig your candid approach, insightful comments, and personal anecdotes. Keep on doing what you do so well.


Thanks for that. I was so hurt when my name did not show up in favorite writes of liner notes - I went and had some chocolate mousse cake I was so distraught. smile Seriously, one of the joys of doing these is to do the liner notes because, as you've probably noticed, I don't just put out anything - I really have to like it or have some connection to it.

Our next title, for me, is a bit of a Holy Grail, a score few probably know from a film that probably isn't widely known (although it should be). The composer is one of my all-time favorites and the release was a complete fluke - I'd asked about this way back when I first started with MGM but no tapes existed so it wasn't possible. But I am nothing if not persistent and I had a brainstorm that happened to be correct and suddenly everything fell into place really quickly.

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2009 - 12:20 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Ooooh... my curiosity is piqued...

 
 Posted:   Nov 6, 2009 - 4:41 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

sounds like another hit in the pipeline bruce!

Blue kirby - if you like Budd, you'll like who dares wins (f option).

I dont think you can go wrong with Billion Dollar Brain - the main theme is just great with all the pianos and the love theme on ondes is great. Originally on LP I found general midwinter's march a little repetitive but it serves the film well.
tough to second guess someone's taste butI dont think you would be disappointed.

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2009 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

Watch this montage of "The Final Option/Who Dares Wins"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NUYfDmeAgw8

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2009 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   Stefan Miklos   (Member)

BILLION DOLLAR BRAIN 'Main Title' - Richard Rodney Bennett (HQ)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa7rrLImVHQ

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2009 - 3:10 PM   
 By:   Joe Brausam   (Member)

I received my copy on Saturday, it sounds great! Thank you!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Finally got mine last week. Very much enjoying it.

shame the original thread got locked as I fear its feedback has got a bit lost.

The CD is great, worth it for Billion Dollar Brain alone!

I used to have the old LP of Who Dares Wins so I had forgotten that there are one or two fairly naff tracks on there - the ones that are for the female performance artist that incorporate with the traditional American themes in (no disrespect intended but this isnt normal Budd to me) however, that said, the main theme is so delicious - as are all its variations - that it is still a good score to have. Very good value for money.

I've had the Brain score on in the car twice now and it is magnificent. It really takes me back to the first time I saw the film and those computer keys opening credits at the beginning. Its possible Ive missed it when listening to the CD but I recall from the film - and I think the LP too - that the rather monotonous march for General Midwinter's army that goes on forever and ever and ever - seems to be missing, albeit there seems short hints at it. I recognise the theme where Caine and Maldon are chasing the trucks on the ice but I dont recall hearing this march? I think it begins when Midwinter inspects his troops and it carries on when they load into the silver tankers. It is quite possible I didnt hear it and was preoccupied in the car or perhaps it was omitted from the tapes and is not on the CD? Or maybe, to save us all from driving us mad, they left it off?
Bruce, can you sort out my memory here? know ye of such a track? Did I miss it on the CD?
(Please be sure, it aint a favourite track so in no way am I bemoaning its exclusion, if thats the case). Just intrigued.




 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Finally got mine last week. Very much enjoying it.

shame the original thread got locked as I fear its feedback has got a bit lost.

The CD is great, worth it for Billion Dollar Brain alone!

I used to have the old LP of Who Dares Wins so I had forgotten that there are one or two fairly naff tracks on there - the ones that are for the female performance artist that incorporate with the traditional American themes in (no disrespect intended but this isnt normal Budd to me) however, that said, the main theme is so delicious - as are all its variations - that it is still a good score to have. Very good value for money.

I've had the Brain score on in the car twice now and it is magnificent. It really takes me back to the first time I saw the film and those computer keys opening credits at the beginning. Its possible Ive missed it when listening to the CD but I recall from the film - and I think the LP too - that the rather monotonous march for General Midwinter's army that goes on forever and ever and ever - seems to be missing, albeit there seems short hints at it. I recognise the theme where Caine and Maldon are chasing the trucks on the ice but I dont recall hearing this march? I think it begins when Midwinter inspects his troops and it carries on when they load into the silver tankers. It is quite possible I didnt hear it and was preoccupied in the car or perhaps it was omitted from the tapes and is not on the CD? Or maybe, to save us all from driving us mad, they left it off?
Bruce, can you sort out my memory here? know ye of such a track? Did I miss it on the CD?
(Please be sure, it aint a favourite track so in no way am I bemoaning its exclusion, if thats the case). Just intrigued.


Not sure about the track you're speaking of - everything that was on the LP is on the CD, as it was on the FSM Treasury Box set. The only thing we did was work on the sound.

Less than fifty left now.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

It was a drumming march, Bruce, very relentless and repetitive.

anybody else know the theme I mean from this film?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   stevieD   (Member)

It was a drumming march, Bruce, very relentless and repetitive.

anybody else know the theme I mean from this film?


it's by Shostakovitch, I think it's from his 9th Symphony or his 11th.

Steve

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

It was a drumming march, Bruce, very relentless and repetitive.

anybody else know the theme I mean from this film?


it's by Shostakovitch, I think it's from his 9th Symphony or his 11th.

Steve


Well, that would explain it. Since Varese now likes to do this, less than forty-eight. smile

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Thanks steve.
Glad I wasnt going mad! my memory often makes it feel that way!


hope you sell 'em all Bruce- its a class release.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

It was a drumming march, Bruce, very relentless and repetitive.

anybody else know the theme I mean from this film?


it's by Shostakovitch, I think it's from his 9th Symphony or his 11th.

Steve


I "collect" Shostakovich references in film scores, but I don't remember this particular one - although it's many years since I saw the film. I can tell you that a relentless march with drums is likely to be from the first movement of the 7th symphony, where (allegedly) the Nazi invasion of Russia is depicted with a simplistic march, repeated many times and always in a slightly different guise, until it becomes after about 10 minutes a frenetically threatening tutti.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 12:00 PM   
 By:   Miguel Rojo   (Member)

Thanks tallguy.

I feel so much better to know I didnt dream it!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 12:40 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Have the CD at last.
"Billion dollar brain": "Move on folks nothing to hear here, move on".

"Who dares wins" (why is this soundtrack not marketed and sold under its original title?).
The theme: I for the love of it can't understand that Roy Budd never got an assignment for scoring a James Bond film. That base line and the Rambo sounding eletronic puls at the opening, it's the meanest that James Bond would ever sound.
I bought it for the theme but my most favourites are now:
"16. Welsh Mountains" and the shockingly beautiful "17. Jenny’s Theme".

I bought the FSM box for "Who dares wins" and "How to murder your wife" but didn't open it. I found I had payed to much for two CDs that I would like but not that amount's worth.
I bought the Kritzerland CDs, DID open them and now I KNOW I payed to much for two CDs.

I keep the the Kritzers though and am very thankful for Kritzerland to enable me to listen to them "guilt free". "How to murder your wife" wins out strangely enough but I´m very content with finally having "Who dares wins".

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Disco Stu   (Member)

Have the CD at last.
"Billion dollar brain": "Move on folks nothing to hear here, move on".

"Who dares wins" (why is this soundtrack not marketed and sold under its original title?).
The theme: I for the love of it can't understand that Roy Budd never got an assignment for scoring a James Bond film. That base line and the Rambo sounding eletronic puls at the opening, it's the meanest that James Bond would ever sound.
I bought it for the theme but my most favourites are now:
"16. Welsh Mountains" and the shockingly beautiful "17. Jenny’s Theme".

I bought the FSM box for "Who dares wins" and "How to murder your wife" but didn't open it. I found I had payed to much for two CDs that I would like but not that amount's worth.
I bought the Kritzerland CDs, DID open them and now I KNOW I payed to much for two CDs.

I keep the the Kritzers though and am very thankful for Kritzerland to enable me to listen to them "guilt free". "How to murder your wife" wins out strangely enough but I´m very content with finally having "Who dares wins".

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2009 - 1:50 PM   
 By:   Simon Morris   (Member)

Have the CD at last.
"Billion dollar brain": "Move on folks nothing to hear here, move on".

"Who dares wins" (why is this soundtrack not marketed and sold under its original title?).
The theme: I for the love of it can't understand that Roy Budd never got an assignment for scoring a James Bond film. That base line and the Rambo sounding eletronic puls at the opening, it's the meanest that James Bond would ever sound.
I bought it for the theme but my most favourites are now:
"16. Welsh Mountains" and the shockingly beautiful "17. Jenny’s Theme".



I think Billion Dollar Brain is worth rather more than your throwaway comment above, Stu! wink

Agree entirely with your general sentiments about Roy Budd though, although I think The Final Option (or Who Dares Wins, as most of us Britishers probably prefer to call it) is in no way one of his best, although it is still very good!

Ironic though, that the two cues you have picked out above were actually composed and performed by Jerry and Marc Donahue, rather than Mr Budd big grin

 
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