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 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



James Horner is one of my favorite composers, but the Titanic Suite on the Back To Titanic release is probably the worst thing he has ever composed! It's gawd awful.
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The performance is slow, yes but it's interesting that Horner actually changed the structure of the suite years later for concert performances. When Horner personally conducted the suite for his last-ever concert in Stavanger Norway in 2015, Horner actually changed the notes of a short passage of music to sound exactly like his final concerto "COLLAGE".

Once again, Horner connected the dots in his music, one last time. The reusage issue so many had their problems with was deliberately done.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 8:33 AM   
 By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member)


James Horner is one of my favorite composers, but the Titanic Suite on the Back To Titanic release is probably the worst thing he has ever composed! It's gawd awful.

Kinda sad the "song" isn't on this release. Sure it was a rights issue, but a very odd omission.


I enjoy the Titanic suite. For me it is a nice enough summation of the score. The song not being on the new release doesn't bother me, as I have the OST and adding it to a playlist on iTunes is easy enough. And honestly, is there anyone who has even the slightest interest in this set who does not own the OST?

I am very excited for this release. Will be an instant purchase.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Epicnerdheroix   (Member)

The song doesn't need to be included I'm sure many have it from a previous Titanic CD release.

It is strange that it couldn't be included though only because the theme is woven into the score, but more so because Celine owes so much to the fact she got to sing this song and her career only blew up to her height because of it.

again I don't need the song on this set.

However let's celebrate with the Tony Moran ReMix from the CD Import Single)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIa9CeAmZaY

https://youtu.be/BIa9CeAmZaY


“The theme is woven into the score.” For those disappointed that Celine’s song is not included at least it has been released multiple times and on various albums. Those of us who love “Beyond Our Wildest Dreams” from John Candy’s 1991 soap opera farce DELIRIOUS are the ones who can truly complain when rights issues prevented Quartet Records from including it on their 2014 remastered score CD. Much like Horner and the Celine song, Cliff Eidelman’s love theme is essentially the instrumental version of the song... a song which is oh so lovely and yet remains unreleased in any form except for the end credits of the film 26 years later. *sigh*

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Record label can’t do Krull, then Braveheart, then just forget about Titanic.

Now do a definitive Brainstorm.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 9:35 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Looking forward to listening to the full 30 minutes of the film version of Titanic’s sinking.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Reeve   (Member)

Who would have believed this!?
What a year it has been for La La Land Records!

The Great Race
Waterworld
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

and now...

TITANIC!!!!!

I thank you all from the bottom of my heart!
A REASON TO LIVE!

I would not have believed it if you told me, FOUR CDs!
Truly - A M A Z I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
That is T I T A N I C ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I can't see how you will be able to "top" yourselves, you have another batch ready for December? Should I wait until that last batch before I order?
Nah! This is too good! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 10:10 AM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

"I tried to Port round it, sir, but the music made certain she hit!"

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Who would have believed this!?
What a year it has been for La La Land Records!

The Great Race
Waterworld
E.T. The Extra Terrestrial
Close Encounters Of The Third Kind

and now...

TITANIC!!!!!

I thank you all from the bottom of my heart!
A REASON TO LIVE!

I would not have believed it if you told me, FOUR CDs!
Truly - A M A Z I N G ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
That is T I T A N I C ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

I can't see how you will be able to "top" yourselves, you have another batch ready for December? Should I wait until that last batch before I order?
Nah! This is too good! THANK YOU VERY MUCH!


It really feels like we had TWO "Black Friday" batches this year!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 10:41 AM   
 By:   Jim Cleveland   (Member)

Is Michael Stearn's music from "Encounter" included in this release?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

Is Michael Stearn's music from "Encounter" included in this release?

Doesn't look like it, though what was used from that piece was so small it probably wasn't worth it to include it. It was not even a minute long in the film (where Rose realizes Jack has frozen to death).

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol

You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated.

We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most.

MV

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:01 PM   
 By:   johnc112003   (Member)

La La Land - you've topped last year!

20 years ago almost to the date of this release, I remember seeing Titanic in a cinema on Broadway New York and it remains one of the best cinematic experiences I've had. Can't wait to hear an expanded version of Horner's music - the opening titles are a favourite and it annoyed me that the OST first track is nothing like the film version.

This might just be my favourite of ALL La La Land titles. I know it's fashionable to bash Horner but I've always loved his score for Titanic and I honestly never thought we'd get an expanded release. Couldn't care less about "the song" and the OST is available on eBay for £1 if anyone wants it.

I can't think how you could possibly top this in 2018. THE release of the year for me. Thank you so much!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)

So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol

You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated.

We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most.

MV


The score is what matters most, that's for sure. This is incredible, and you always do these works AND composers justice. Holiest of Holy Grails....my goodness. Thank you ever so much.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Oh, now we know one of the titles for Black Friday 2018! big grin

This is going to be a really interesting listen. I get the feeling the film score is quite different from the OST.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Spymaster   (Member)

Couldn't care less about "the song" and the OST is available on eBay for £1 if anyone wants it.

"The song" was written by Horner and won him an Academy Award. It is also an intregal part of the score based, as it is, on Rose's Theme.

 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Mathew   (Member)

So glad you guys are excited by this release. To be honest with you, we didn't even think it was going to happen until we did Braveheart a few years back. We are deeply honored to have been able to bring this dream project to life with the full cooperation of Mr Horner's estate, agency, Fox, Paramount, Sony Music and Lightstorm (and we got it signed off on just as they started shooting the new Avatar films!). While it would have been nice to include the song, we were frankly told that IF we wanted to include it we may want to schedule the release for the 25th anniversary! lol

You can bemoan all you want about the song, but the fact is that our goal was to present the original score as Mr Horner recorded for the film. The song would have been nice, but beyond complicated.

We are film score fans. In the end, that's what matters the most.

MV


Bravo, MV!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   johnc112003   (Member)

Couldn't care less about "the song" and the OST is available on eBay for £1 if anyone wants it.

"The song" was written by Horner and won him an Academy Award. It is also an intregal part of the score based, as it is, on Rose's Theme.


Wholeheartedly agree. I only meant that the song is readily available. If its a choice between having this release NOW in 2017 or waiting another 5 years to get this release plus the song -on a 4CD set - I'll take this release NOW minus the song and use iTunes to add the song to my playlist.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Couldn't care less about "the song" and the OST is available on eBay for £1 if anyone wants it.

"The song" was written by Horner and won him an Academy Award. It is also an intregal part of the score based, as it is, on Rose's Theme.


Really, "Spymaster"? The song is "integral"? It only plays during the end credits, when more than half of the audience has left. I'd say it's evocative of the film, but not integral.

J

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 2:07 PM   
 By:   jamesluckard   (Member)

Is Michael Stearn's music from "Encounter" included in this release?

Doesn't look like it, though what was used from that piece was so small it probably wasn't worth it to include it. It was not even a minute long in the film (where Rose realizes Jack has frozen to death).


Wow, I never knew about this additional piece of music in the film. I Googled Michael Stearns, and found the album "Encounter", which appears to be 52 minutes long. Does anyone know exactly which track was used in TITANIC, it's not credited on IMDB's page for the music in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2017 - 2:25 PM   
 By:   Avatarded   (Member)



Wow, I never knew about this additional piece of music in the film. I Googled Michael Stearns, and found the album "Encounter", which appears to be 52 minutes long. Does anyone know exactly which track was used in TITANIC, it's not credited on IMDB's page for the music in the film.


Yes. On the "Encounter" album, it is the start of track 3: "The Beacon (Those Who Have Gone Before)"

 
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