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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: Black Sunday
 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2010 - 4:20 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

And i love the utter disgust you people have. Are you not film scpre fans?

Yes.

Are some of you not preservationosts?

Nope. I just like listening to good albums. I don't care if the source is an opera, a film , a rock artist or whatever.

Do any of you care about how the score adapts, changes, grows, is birthed, performed, and then left to unsubtle and unscrupulous hands to mold into the sonic experience we equate to a perspns life work?

I don't even understand what you mean here.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2010 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

As much as I love Bronislau Kaper's Mutiny On The Bounty score, four hours' worth of music is tough to get through, especially as a lot of the "alternate" cues are barely any different from what was actually used in the movie. A 2-CD set would have contained the entire score as heard in he film, and still have had an hour's worth of extra space for the most interesting unused/alternate cues. I mean, it's a magnificent set, and it's sort of cool that it's all there for the most obsessive of fans, but I doubt I'll ever listen to every last cue again.

that's why i sold it
smile

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2010 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Incidentally, I did indeed listen to the ATTACK OF THE CLONES album again the other day and - well, it's okay. It's got the love theme, which is nice, and a hell of a lot of frenetic action scoring which I don't think it's in the same league as The Asteroid Field or Battle In The Snow.

Anyway, back to BLACK SUNDAY and I will be ordering this one, probably when Intrada announce their newies (though I really want to order it with RETURN TO EDEN). It's another **** I can give the heave to.

 
 Posted:   Feb 13, 2010 - 4:39 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

Back to BLACK SUNDAY. It arrived today along with PLAYERS and ANDROMEDA STRAIN, delayed no doubt because of this vile winter weather- It sounds just marvelous! Aces for that! The score is tenfold better than I remembered it being. Congratulations and Thanks for this one! If I can only get FAMILY PLOT in an official release, I could actually live without there ever being another Williams release.

 
 Posted:   Feb 14, 2010 - 8:38 AM   
 By:   soundtrackman   (Member)

Just got this, and it's a truly fabulous release. Sound is spectacular, and the score is a brilliant example of suspense and action writing. I confess to having had an "unofficial" copy of this for some time, but I was never happier to toss a disc in the trash. Many thanks to FSM for bringing this Williams treasure out, officially and sounding like it was recorded yesterday. I hope all 10,000 copies find loving homes.

Mark T.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2010 - 7:49 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Ok, guys - I just finished watching this for the first time, and I IMPLORE you,
if you own any Williams' or have the slightest enjoyment of his music, you MUST
rent this movie and get the album.......

I'm not sure what the consensus is for the film, and don't care - this is one you have
to see first then get the score- I regret I can't run to ye olde brick und mortar and pick
up a copy tonight, since I would (alas, mine is stuck in pre-order hell with May's RETURN
TO EDEN!!! Hurry up BSX!!!!). It's amazing, a perfectly calculated suspenseful no nonsense
score, haven't been so overjoyed with film music for a loooooong time......

If you're on the fence, do yourself a favor - I'm returning it to Netflix tonight, so snag
it and enjoy (when this album was announced it was a very long wait on Netflix
for the film, hopefully a good sign).

 
 Posted:   Mar 8, 2010 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Ok, guys - I just finished watching this for the first time, and I IMPLORE you,
if you own any Williams' or have the slightest enjoyment of his music, you MUST
rent this movie and get the album.......

I'm not sure what the consensus is for the film, and don't care - this is one you have
to see first then get the score- I regret I can't run to ye olde brick und mortar and pick
up a copy tonight, since I would (alas, mine is stuck in pre-order hell with May's RETURN
TO EDEN!!! Hurry up BSX!!!!). It's amazing, a perfectly calculated suspenseful no nonsense
score, haven't been so overjoyed with film music for a loooooong time......

If you're on the fence, do yourself a favor - I'm returning it to Netflix tonight, so snag
it and enjoy (when this album was announced it was a very long wait on Netflix
for the film, hopefully a good sign).


A great film AND score. Goblin, why are you wasting your time ordering there? Just get Black Sunday somewhere else (I ordered mine day of and Screen Archives seriously had it to me in 3 days, which was completely incredible).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 9, 2010 - 8:12 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

Order from BSX? Good God man, I'm not daft!!!! wink

I ordered this in a bundle w/ their RETURN TO EDEN, and prefer to
get a box o' cd's, and didn't think I'd be THIS excited about SUNDAY.
I know you can have orders not held up with pre-orders, but it's more
fun to get 'the box' than a trickle.....too bad BSX is not only notorious
with us, they take forever to get stock to Intrada, SAE, et al as well.....

Guys, really, try it, rent the flick - the opening is a bit draggy, and unscored,
so I kept hearing Goldsmith's 'The Killers Arrive' from THE BOYS FROM BRAZIL
under it in my head, but once the first two cues kick in, you'll be hooked!

F'ing textbook stuff, missing Williams from scoring, do yourself a favor and GET THIS!!!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2010 - 8:24 AM   
 By:   Carl Wonders   (Member)

Just got my copy of the CD yesterday (darn international mail!), and I love it! I never realized how badly Frankenheimer et al treated the score until I read through the liner notes. There are several bad music edits in the film, but I didn't know how much was cut out before. Pity about not finding the original recording to the final scene, but it sounds great anyways.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 6:30 AM   
 By:   eriknelson   (Member)

Having just listened to the CD and reading the liner notes, I too was surprised at how much of the music was not used in the film. One of the major themes Williams wrote for the terrorists was almost completely excised. Perhaps this explains why a soundtrack album was not released at the time. With all of the cuts, it would have been difficult to produce a coherent presentation of the music that appeared in the film.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 6:32 AM   
 By:   David (Giacchino-fan)   (Member)

Can anyone from FSM let us know how well this has sold?

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 8:43 AM   
 By:   Hercule Platini   (Member)

Given this another spin this afternoon and really enjoyed it again (except, I have to confess, for the three source tracks towards the end, which are too much of a change of mood for my taste).

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 12:15 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

I absolutely love this score - each and every note (except the source stuff!)

This is one of those discs that I listen to from beginning to end each and every time. Just can't get enough of it.

I just keep replaying a playlist I made with some of my favourite complete scores including: Black Sunday, Capricorn One, Prophecy, Boys from Brazil, Alien and Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 12:56 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

this has probably been mentioned but....

anyone else notice that the main theme is a prototype for the "force/Luke" theme from STAR WARS?

of course you didsmile

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

There's all kinds of great pre-Star Wars-isms in the action material toward the end as well. Awesome album.

 
 Posted:   Mar 31, 2010 - 2:24 PM   
 By:   Jeff Eldridge   (Member)

anyone else notice that the main theme is a prototype for the "force/Luke" theme from STAR WARS?

As a matter of fact...


 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2010 - 7:49 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I finally got around to listening to Black Sunday last night and I really enjoyed it, looking forward to playing it again when I get home this evening! I imagine it will sit well among the new Michael Small's and Rosenman's Prophecy, thanks FSM! Folks, something tells me that this is going to be a fantastic year for brilliant releases!

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2010 - 7:53 AM   
 By:   mildcigar   (Member)

I finally got around to listening to Black Sunday last night and I really enjoyed it, looking forward to playing it again when I get home this evening! I imagine it will sit well among the new Michael Small's and Rosenman's Prophecy, thanks FSM! Folks, something tells me that this is going to be a fantastic year for brilliant releases!

I'll drink to that.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2010 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Niall from Ireland   (Member)

I finally got around to listening to Black Sunday last night and I really enjoyed it, looking forward to playing it again when I get home this evening! I imagine it will sit well among the new Michael Small's and Rosenman's Prophecy, thanks FSM! Folks, something tells me that this is going to be a fantastic year for brilliant releases!

I'll drink to that.


Pity you can't make it over to O'Reillys beer garden!

 
 Posted:   Apr 26, 2010 - 6:46 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

I haven't bought the soundtrack yet, so I decided to revisit the movie on DVD. I have the same feelings about it that I did when I first saw it five years ago. The first two acts are iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiincredibly boring, tedious, sleep-inducing. Bruce Dern is great as always, but he can't save the dreadfully slow pacing of the movie. Then the third act is exciting and interesting...yet ultimately a letdown because of the cheesy animated explosion. How do you make a film that's 2 hours and 23 minutes, all of it leading up to a big finale, then blow the blimp outta the sky but barely show it (there wasn't even any debris in the air). I'm a Frankenheimer fan, but this movie has issues: pacing, a bloated script, and poor visual effects for 2 explosions.

BUT, Williams' score is excellent and elevates the move significantly. In fact, without that forceful, driving music (especially in the last 20 minutes), the film wouldn't have been a fraction as effective. Though the movie leaves me cold, I look forward to hearing the soundtrack.

 
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