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I've heard many reports of how the score to Wrath of the Titans was buried in the sfx and I thought a lot of the music was mixed pretty low for The Hunger Games. Really is a shame.
That's weird. Because most of the music on the movie has a good mix. There's JNH cues like Reaping Day, The Train, Booby Trap, Rue's Farewell which are played with minimal or without sound effects and dialogue.
It's way better to listen the music on CD than in the movie, because the source music can distract and you couldn't recognize which is JNH's score, and which is source music.
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Apr 1, 2012 - 2:40 PM
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Raider S
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That's weird. Because most of the music on the movie has a good mix. There's JNH cues like Reaping Day, The Train, Booby Trap, Rue's Farewell which are played with minimal or without sound effects and dialogue.
It's way better to listen the music on CD than in the movie, because the source music can distract and you couldn't recognize which is JNH's score, and which is source music.
Yes, the movie is perfect and the mix is perfect. LOL!
If you can't recognize which is source music and which is score, might that not hint at a problem?
Trouble is: should you have to buy the CD and repeatedly play it before you start to get it? Shouldn't it work as you watch the film?
I'm sure if I played the CD repeatedly, I might pick up on some themes, but this didn't happen in the viewing of the film.
Yes, it should work when you watch the film. And not just after multiple viewings.
Some of the music is quite good (especially Chariots/Horn of Plenty (oddly broken into two tracks) and quite evocative, but it's a shame it wasn't better incorporated into the movie. As for themes, not so much antying I've heard and this would have been a great film/trilogy to do more with.
EDIT: Arcade Fire gets some credit for Horn of Plenty.
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Apr 2, 2012 - 11:57 AM
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Trouble is: should you have to buy the CD and repeatedly play it before you start to get it?
I don't know about this score in particular, but often for me the answer is: I often do. Often when I first see a movie I may pick up on a theme or two or maybe not, but I won't be consciously associating those themes with particular characters (or whatever) at that time. Often when I first pick up a new film score (or symphony or whatever), I listen to it once, and don't love it, maybe listen again or maybe not, give my mind a few weeks to figure it out, and then when I return to it I like it much more. Deciphering a piece of music is certainly not an immediate process for me, in many cases, and in many of my favorite scores it does take multiple listens to "get it", and more listens after that will often yield new things to "get".
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Apr 2, 2012 - 1:38 PM
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I don't know about this score in particular, but often for me the answer is: I often do. Often when I first see a movie I may pick up on a theme or two or maybe not, but I won't be consciously associating those themes with particular characters (or whatever) at that time. Often when I first pick up a new film score (or symphony or whatever), I listen to it once, and don't love it, maybe listen again or maybe not, give my mind a few weeks to figure it out, and then when I return to it I like it much more. Deciphering a piece of music is certainly not an immediate process for me, in many cases, and in many of my favorite scores it does take multiple listens to "get it", and more listens after that will often yield new things to "get".
+1
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So, DeputyRiley... what are your reactions to the score after listening to it?
Oh well I did listen to it and thought it was pretty good...but short. Most tracks seemed to be over before I knew it. I decided I want to give it another listen before passing judgment because I feel like it's that kind of score. Judging by a lot of posts here, apparently I'm not alone. I also plan to see the film in the next few days. As a first listen, it didn't wow me, but it was definitely interesting and parts of it were excellent. I wasn't as impressed by "Horn of Plenty" as most people seem to be. The tracks I like the most are the first two that I heard, on this thread, via youtube..."Countdown" and "Rue's Farewell." That suite that yonythemooney posted had some music that I thought was better than most of the stuff on the score album. Anyway, gonna listen again and delve some more.
Of course, it was a blast to listen to it while hiking. On that level it was a lot of fun.
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Apr 3, 2012 - 9:11 PM
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I love this movie, book and score! First off, thank God the movie isn't an action movie. It wasn't advertised as such, which makes it faithful to the book. It would have been so easy to go that way. The books are so darkly themed. They paint an honest account of the main character's life, which is gritty, depressing and ultimately sad. Gary Ross put the movie in that vain and Howard put music to that concept.
I love the percussion throughout the whole score. There's some really interesting combinations of different types of drums that really fill in the musical space. That's something I'm noticing a lot more in movies now. Desplat has done it a lot, filling the musical space with lots of instruments yet creating a quiet, sometimes reflective sound. Take a listen to "The Exodus" from Deathly Hallows: Part 1 and hopefully you'll see what I mean. That's really why movies still use symphonies. It gives the audience that "full" movie sound. But that's a digression.
"The Countdown" reminded me of "The Fugitive." Which, as one of his best scores, is a good thing to remind me of. Still "Horn of Plenty" is the centerpiece here and credit must be given to Arcade Fire. However, the whole score is brilliant and works great for the movie. The best of this early year.
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Apr 6, 2012 - 10:58 AM
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MikeP
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Gary Ross has reportedly left 'Catching Fire'.
Not a big deal. Although I enjoyed the movie, the dammed shaky-cam was annoying as hell and completely unneeded. The movie was well handled overall and for a longer film it did have a good pace, but Ross didn't brand the film as his own to such a degree that he can't be replaced.
Although the scene counting down to the beginning of the game was very well done and properly tense, once the game began, the opening melee was one of the absolute worst action scenes in recent memory, as was the fight between Katniss and the knife throwing girl, whatever her name was 
I had listened to the score before seeing the movie and was disappointed, mainly due to me expecting more of an action oriented score. Seeing the movie, now the score works much better for me. It captures the flavor of the movie's settings and really sells the emotion. After a few post-movie spins I like it quite a bit.
The only "if only" ... is it would have been nice to hear the action scenes scored in Howard's 80's/90's full orchestral style - Outbreak, Waterworld -
But still a solid CD with some very nice warm and melodic moments
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It's not confirmed that Ross will leave, there's going to be an official statement from Lionsgate soon. I don't want this franchise becomes into another saga where they have to do every film from scratch. It's already bad that Ross and Collins didn't wrote the script of Catching Fire.
Skgai said what I think about the movie and score. Another director and composer would have turned into a brainless action movie, losing the message of the books, and with a over the top score where the music will root for the main character to win and celebrate where the other dies.
No, the movie and score reflects what the book is about: Young people being forced to killing each other to entertain a fascist dictatorship which are using them to control a post-apocalyptic United States.
The movie and score reflects Katniss's feelings about those things. For example, The Countdown, which it has a sense of danger and fear and upcoming tragedy. Or Entering The Capitol, reflecting a sense of mystery to the Capitol and awe with the choir (like I was expecting that JNH will do), and then with post-modern sound.
And the action scenes, reflects a sense of brutality and harshness (Especially with the ethnic flutes, and electronic and organic percussion). Another composer wouldn't had done this, it would have done a generic action score, which it would have been unappropiate and completly against the message of the book which it was perfectly portrayed on the movie by Ross and JNH.
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