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Like I have always said, Tadlow itself has no plans to re record Moonraker, but if someone wanted to fund such a recording, then me and Nic Raine...him being the John Barry expert...would be up for it!
Start a kickstarter account for it and I will easily donate thirty bucks myself. I think if everyone who wanted it donated at least something you'd probably have substantial amount of funds.
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Like I have always said, Tadlow itself has no plans to re record Moonraker, but if someone wanted to fund such a recording, then me and Nic Raine...him being the John Barry expert...would be up for it!
Start a kickstarter account for it and I will easily donate thirty bucks myself. I think if everyone who wanted it donated at least something you'd probably have substantial amount of funds.
Count me in!
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It's embarrassing to be associated with (I started it!) this thread now.
It was conceived in a time when "the lost Moonraker tapes" canard had some purchase on my mind.
Stephen Woolston set me straight.
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Well, to be honest, we've all learned a lot over the years.
That's why it's not necessarily helpful to dredge up these old threads.
Gergely, rest his soul, when he was alive, persuaded me that the mere 10 minutes of extra music that's audible in the film is all there is, and I told people that myself.
But, now we can see La-La Land's track list, we can see that was incorrect and now we know better.
And I once told people the Moonraker tapes were lost too, if we go back 20 years.
We're all learning and improving what we think we know.
Cheers
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Well, to be honest, we've all learned a lot over the years.
That's why it's not necessarily helpful to dredge up these old threads.
Quite the contrary, it is very helpful to dredge up these old threads, even if just to see how opinions have changed or when we were wrong. The very idea to gloss over things where we might have erred is understandable, but the wrong impulse. As you say, we are all learning and improving what we think we know, and threads like these are there to demonstrate to it. Nothing is ever "lost" forever, everything that ever happened, everything anyone has ever done, good or bad, for whatever reason, will have happened for eternity.
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Well, to be honest, we've all learned a lot over the years.
I rewatched Moonraker last night, and realized how much the film had been abridged and tightened for the post-Star Wars youth audience. Its scenes and transitions are considerably faster than the measured pace of the average Bond film.
The expanded scope of the film is indicated by the bigger JB cues highlighted in the La La Land album samples.
If we'd known about those bigger cues, we'd have been even more nuts over the supposedly lost material.
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Dec 2, 2024 - 3:55 AM
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I find it a fascinating archive.
Here's an interview with John Barry about Moonraker taken from a thread in 2006. Gordon Reeves did an interview with John Barry.
The whole Dolby thing is interesting as I think many/most cinemas/theaters in 1979 would have still carried mono, not stereo sound. I know the one I went to was definitely NOT stereo. "Dolby In Selected Theaters" was the smallprint tagline on the movie posters at the time I think. It was fairly new at the time I believe. Stereo on TV broadcasts in UK weren't around till about 1986 so I didn't really know anything different.
But I didn't complain about the movie sound after seeing Moonraker, I was complaining more about how far removed it was from OHMSS which I'd seen for the first time on UK TV in Sept 1978.
Though it's also interesting that John Barry apparently listened to the original soundtrack album of Moonraker and could tell the differences between that and the movie dub.
From an interview I did with John the Sunday afternoon after the "Moonraker" preview at the Academy late June of 1979:
JB: "... some directors have dubbed monaurally all their lives, and think they can just go in and use Dolby without a second thought. Dolby offers a whole new area of new levels which are very exciting but, if it's abused, the dichotomy between the mistakes is so emphasized - and such an imbalance is created - that it's almost a distraction.
"I'm very disappointed with the dub of 'Moonraker'. It was done in London where I couldn't be in attendance. For some odd reason, (director) Lewis Gilbert decided to play it in monaural. And if you compare the dub of the picture with the soundtrack album - and match the quality of the album against that of the film - there's AT LEAST a 50% differential in terms of impact. When this occurs, one feels almost violated, as if you've been robbed. I believe Lewis Gilbert's ears were out to lunch when he made that dub.
"I think a director should spend a few days familiarizing himself with what Dolby offers - and how best to employ these new balances and perspectives - in order to get the maximum effect instead of simply going in cold with a traditional mind."
Mind you, as I was sitting a couple of rows in back of John and his wife at that Academy screening the evening before, I can attest that he LITERALLY sunk lower and lower in his seat (I imagine, in horror) as the film unfolded once he heard how his music sounded.
That next afternoon, in the living room of the home they were renting, his rage remained quite tangible as we listened to the segments of the soundtrack album and you COULD hear the definitive differential he was alluding to.
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