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 Posted:   Oct 3, 2015 - 6:49 PM   
 By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

  • I've always felt that Die Harder and With a Vengeance were near classics just under the first. Live Free is overall enjoyable, but I've yet to see A Good Day.

  • For your own sake. Keep it that way. You're not missing much.

    I'm torn between morbid curiousity and the perpetual stink eye from my wallet.

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     Posted:   Jun 26, 2017 - 2:59 PM   
     By:   Lush-Romantic Strings   (Member)

    Any chances that this one will be at some point available digitally? smile

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 9:45 AM   
     By:   1977   (Member)

    Any chances that this one will be at some point available digitally? smile

    I'll second that release, along with other OOP Club Fox titles, such as Abyss and Predator 2.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 10:34 AM   
     By:   Lush-Romantic Strings   (Member)

    But the expanded Fox titles being available digitally also includes releases from Varese Sarabande? Great! I thought it only applied to material previously released by Intrada and LLL Records.

    smile

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 11:35 AM   
     By:   1977   (Member)

    But the expanded Fox titles being available digitally also includes releases from Varese Sarabande? Great! I thought it only applied to material previously released by Intrada and LLL Records.

    smile


    No, Varese holds these titles in perpetuity, hence only they are able to release them digitally. Whether or not they will remains to be seen.

     
     
     Posted:   Jun 27, 2017 - 11:38 AM   
     By:   Lush-Romantic Strings   (Member)

    But it is a real possibility isn´t it? Given the fact that previous limited, deluxe editions from Varese (just a few, but still...) are available digitally now...

    smile

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 7:05 PM   
     By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

    Revisiting this oddly beautiful masterwork by Maestro Kamen, and...despite 'living' with this piece for decades, I'm only now realizing this is Kamen's finest ballet (of violence!), he was able to port onto a film.

    The first is wholly married to the film.

    The third...half points, but there is a lot of interference.

    Die Hard 2 is literally a ballet of violence, absolutely brilliant stuff.

    Wondering how others view or feel about this piece?
    When an action film score could arguably be deemed a ballet. *erased slight diss to current scores...which is quoted below anyway, so....*

     
     Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 8:15 PM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    When an action film score could arguably be deemed a ballet.

    Well, Goldsmith’s Capricorn One literally became one…
    https://vimeo.com/640474670

    Yavar

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 9:08 PM   
     By:   mark_so   (Member)

    Revisiting this oddly beautiful masterwork by Maestro Kamen, and...despite 'living' with this piece for decades, I'm only now realizing this is Kamen's finest ballet (of violence!), he was able to port onto a film.

    The first is wholly married to the film.

    The third...half points, but there is a lot of interference.

    Die Hard 2 is literally a ballet of violence, absolutely brilliant stuff.

    Wondering how others view or feel about this piece?
    When an action film score could arguably be deemed a ballet. Any Balfe, Jablonsky, etc works that could be heard this way? Honestly curious if there is an answer!


    agree 100% -- and what is it with Kamen and Sibelius? this and The Dead Zone are my two favorites of his. and i think the interpolation of Finlandia, while perhaps less recognizable than Beethoven's Ode to Joy in the first film, is quite perfect in both providing a handy dramatic signal throughout (BAAH-dum!) and bringing just the right ridiculous edge to the tone so that I for one find myself stepping back while watching the film to just marvel at, yes, the splendid tableaux of choreographed violence. it's something Harlin somehow mastered effortlessly in this film, yet which Joel Schumacker, for instance, never quite managed to achieve despite much heavy-handed effort in his Batman films. it's rare to have a film that so deliberately and self-consciously draws the viewer out of the drama, yet comes off not as cynical but joyous, and Kamen's score just absolutely nails the tone. Of course the first film must've had Finlandia blaring in Harlin's head from the get-go...

     
     Posted:   Mar 19, 2023 - 10:13 PM   
     By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

    Revisiting this oddly beautiful masterwork by Maestro Kamen, and...despite 'living' with this piece for decades, I'm only now realizing this is Kamen's finest ballet (of violence!), he was able to port onto a film.

    The first is wholly married to the film.

    The third...half points, but there is a lot of interference.

    Die Hard 2 is literally a ballet of violence, absolutely brilliant stuff.

    Wondering how others view or feel about this piece?
    When an action film score could arguably be deemed a ballet. Any Balfe, Jablonsky, etc works that could be heard this way? Honestly curious if there is an answer!


    No argument here! Despite amazing highlights in both the first and third DIE HARD scores, I find that DIE HARD 2 plays best as an extended listening experience.

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 4:39 AM   
     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

    This was also the CD that gave most Olde-Tooth-Tyger film score listeners the first chance to sample Kamen & the DIE HARD experience, since the first film was one of those old No-Show score releases (until people grabbed the Pony Boy/Tail doo-dah).
    The Varese DH2 CD was a truncated highlights package, but thrilling action beats nonetheless for those of us in need of that beautifully operatic ballet of violence (well said mate).
    And well done Sean, guess what you've just sent me to dig out in the Kamen CD aisle of my Man Cave wink

    And NO, I don't think there are MANY* modern day keyboard programmers with the tools in their kit-bags to deliver symphonic embellishment at the level Michael Kamen did back in the Good Olde Days.




    *Not saying ALL, but the composers trained and working within their midi boxes can only reach limited levels.

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 7:45 AM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

    I have just been giving this a listen( first in a while), the first disc, so far. And as I have said before it's ' proper music'. Well orchestrated, full of tension etc. Another tick In my book is- no cheap sounding drum beats ruining it all.

     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 7:48 AM   
     By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

    No argument here! Despite amazing highlights in both the first and third DIE HARD scores, I find that DIE HARD 2 plays best as an extended listening experience.

    Completely agreed, it’s not even close… and I don’t even really *like* Finlandia. It’s easily my least favorite piece from one of my favorite composers.

    Yavar

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 9:31 AM   
     By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

    Thanks for the good conversation on this one gang, and the reminder Yavar about Belling the Slayer - I keep forgetting to watch this!!!
    KmG, did you get your nose done? Something is different!

    The Varese DH2 is too much for one sitting, but taken in movements, it's amazing. I didn't even get to Finlandia yet, forgot it was part of this piece. Slapping my hand, and erasing the "good old days" part of my message, they don't write them like this anymore...it just creeps in :-(

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 9:38 AM   
     By:   Prince Damian   (Member)


    KmG, did you get your nose done? Something is different!


    He may have wiped the brown off it, that's all. wink

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 9:55 AM   
     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

    "KmG, did you get your nose done? Something is different!"
    -----------------------
    Haha, yeah...
    I only went in the Barbers for a short back n sides, and came out feeling like a Scottish Oscar winning cellist big grin


    And screw you, Cliffy wink

     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 10:45 AM   
     By:   Mike Esssss   (Member)

    Any chance this release ever gets a new lease on life? I don't own any of the DH2 releases and I've kicked myself for it.

     
     
     Posted:   Mar 20, 2023 - 12:30 PM   
     By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

    I think it's got a better chance than most, Mike.
    These type of franchises seem to have a neverending source of interest with our labels and fans/buyers.
    The only stumbling block I can imagine is Fox now being owned by Di$ney, which might limit things to Intrada, unless the previous labels that released them kept some open ended deal on them?

     
     Posted:   Mar 21, 2023 - 10:29 PM   
     By:   Adventures of Jarre Jarre   (Member)

    Regarding #4 & 5, did Beltrami ever consider continuing the tradition to include a companion classical piece to his scores?

     
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