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 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 1:15 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I am posting this thread because the intense interest in THE AVENGERS has rekindled interest in Silvestri's superb score for CA; THE FIRST AVENGER.

the ALBUM:
many here have expressed diff;
iculty getting 'into' this score as presented on cd.
My carefully sequenced 40+ minute 'album' program* should help you better experience this exciting score:
6,2,4,5,8,9,10,13,14,16,18,22,23,25
[if you have the ITUNES only download and want to make a cd-r ,substitute it
for track 25]


http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=16&threadID=80783&archive=0


the MARCH:
Many have complained about the absence of the end title march on the soundtrack cd. It has been erroneously claimed that this is the ONLY track that contains a complete statement of the CA theme. There are at least 2-3 cues which render a full statement of the theme.
I suspect that Silvestri intentionally left this off the cd because it does not STYLISTICALLY fit in with the rest of his score. Silvestri wrote a MODERN score for a retro character.
tHE END TITLE IS DELIBERATELY OLD-FASHIONED. In fact if you listen closely it is obvious that it is intended as a tribute/homage/parody to John Williams SUPERMAN/INDY style!
Check out the rising and falling scaler patterns played on the flutes/oboes- this is right out of the "March from Superman' "b"section. (as is the the descending 4 note bass line and thundering coda)

'nuff said
bruce

ps if y'all want a score with memorable themes go out and get WHITE FANG, dammitt!
smile
*patent pending

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   mstrox   (Member)

I haven't heard the march since I only have the CD, but I'm curious about your 40-minute version. What does your track order look like? smile

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 1:33 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

I haven't heard the march since I only have the CD, but I'm curious about your 40-minute version. What does your track order look like? smile

see above

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 1:39 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

the march is out but the song is in?

I dont buy it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

The end title version of Silvestri's theme is just about the most perfect piece of "psuedo-Williams" I've heard, next to Edward Shearmur's great SKY CAPTAIN AND THE WORLD OF TOMORROW

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 3:56 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

The End Title March was not included on the album because it was recorded late in a pick-up sessiom, after the album had already been locked.

Source: Interview with Alan Silvestri in the latest FSM Online

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   riotengine   (Member)

A good march is worth repeating;



Greg Espinoza

 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 8:15 PM   
 By:   Travis   (Member)

The End Title March was not included on the album because it was recorded late in a pick-up sessiom, after the album had already been locked.

Source: Interview with Alan Silvestri in the latest FSM Online


Thanks for pointing out this clarification. I'm still disappointed the march is itunes only. How about Amazon or even better, HD Tracks?

 
 
 Posted:   May 18, 2012 - 10:40 PM   
 By:   Mike West   (Member)

I am posting this thread because the intense interest in THE AVENGERS has rekindled interest in Silvestri's superb score for CA; THE FIRST AVENGER.

the ALBUM:
many here have expressed diff;
iculty getting 'into' this score as presented on cd.
My carefully sequenced 40+ minute 'album' program* should help you better experience this exciting score:
6,2,4,5,8,9,10,13,14,16,18,22,23,25
[if you have the ITUNES only download and want to make a cd-r ,substitute it
for track 25]


http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=16&threadID=80783&archive=0


the MARCH:
Many have complained about the absence of the end title march on the soundtrack cd. It has been erroneously claimed that this is the ONLY track that contains a complete statement of the CA theme. There are at least 2-3 cues which render a full statement of the theme.
I suspect that Silvestri intentionally left this off the cd because it does not STYLISTICALLY fit in with the rest of his score. Silvestri wrote a MODERN score for a retro character.
tHE END TITLE IS DELIBERATELY OLD-FASHIONED. In fact if you listen closely it is obvious that it is intended as a tribute/homage/parody to John Williams SUPERMAN/INDY style!
Check out the rising and falling scaler patterns played on the flutes/oboes- this is right out of the "March from Superman' "b"section. (as is the the descending 4 note bass line).

'nuff said
bruce

ps if y'all want a score with memorable themes go out and get WHITE FANG, dammitt!
smile
*patent pending


interesting playlist, why did you not include the "Howling Commando's Montage" which I think features and accompanies some of the signature moments?

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 6:12 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


Thanks for pointing out this clarification. I'm still disappointed the march is itunes only. How about Amazon or even better, HD Tracks?


I'd pay 53 cents for a lossless version...

 
 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 7:20 AM   
 By:   jkannry   (Member)

Maybe iTunes match could finally pay off. I scanned in cd copy. In theory match should offer iTunes copy with missing track.

Haven't signed up to match yet but this .99 cents off effect is tempting.

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

My carefully sequenced 40+ minute 'album' program* should help you better experience this exciting score:
6,2,4,5,8,9,10,13,14,16,18,22,23,25
[if you have the ITUNES only download and want to make a cd-r ,substitute it
for track 25]

pending


interesting playlist, why did you not include the "Howling Commando's Montage" which I think features and accompanies some of the signature moments?


http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=16&threadID=80783&archive=0


bruce

 
 Posted:   May 19, 2012 - 1:21 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

The End Title March was not included on the album because it was recorded late in a pick-up sessiom, after the album had already been locked.

Source: Interview with Alan Silvestri in the latest FSM Online


It is mos def a 'novelty' tune specifically composed to match the retro end title graphics!
The rest of the score is not in that style unlike SKY CAPTAIN where the entire score is a Williams take-off
bruce

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

Here is my own personal album edit which runs at 46:45 including CAPTAIN AMERICA MARCH and I feel is a good balance high lights as well as allowing it not feel too simplistic in chronological order.

• 1. Captain America (Main Titles) (0:56)
• 4. Farewell to Bucky (2:50)
• 6. Training the Supersoldier (1:08)
• 7. Schmidt's Story (1:59)
• 8. VitaRays (4:25)
• 9. Captain America "We Did It" (1:59)
• 13. Unauthorized Night Flight (3:13)
• 14. Troop Liberation (5:06)
• 15. Factory Inferno (5:05)
• 16. Triumphant Return (2:16)
• 17. Howling Command's Montage (2:16)
• 20. Motorcycle Mayhem (3:05)
• 21. Invasion (5:09)
• 22. Fight on the Flight Deck (3:30)
• 23. This is My Choice (3:26)
• 24. Passage of Time (1:35)
• 25. Captain America (1:08)
• 27. Captain America March (2:37)


If order is of no importance, it would run as follows:

• 27. Captain America March (2:37)
• 7. Schmidt's Story (1:59)
• 4. Farewell to Bucky (2:50)
• 23. This is My Choice (3:26)
• 24. Passage of Time (1:35)
• 25. Captain America (1:08)
• 6. Training the Supersoldier (1:08)
• 20. Motorcycle Mayhem (3:05)
• 1. Captain America (Main Titles) (0:56)
• 8. VitaRays (4:25)
• 17. Howling Command's Montage (2:16)
• 9. Captain America "We Did It" (1:59)
• 13. Unauthorized Night Flight (3:13)
• 14. Troop Liberation (5:06)
• 21. Invasion (5:09)
• 15. Factory Inferno (5:05)
• 22. Fight on the Flight Deck (3:30)
• 16. Triumphant Return (2:16)

If you still wish to make both shorter, remove CAPTAIN AMERICA (1:08) and TRAINING THE SUPERSOLDIER (1:08) and FAREWELL TO BUCKY ( 2:50) but ONLY if you do have THE MARCH.

 
 Posted:   May 20, 2012 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

dp

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

dp

YOU NEED the 'film' version of the main theme - best heard in SUPERSOLDIER- even if you include the March imho
it had very different arrangement and is more enjoyable to my ears
brm

 
 Posted:   May 21, 2012 - 5:51 PM   
 By:   The REAL BJBien   (Member)

dp

YOU NEED the 'film' version of the main theme - best heard in SUPERSOLDIER- even if you include the March imho
it had very different arrangement and is more enjoyable to my ears
brm


I agree and thats why I included it in my program but for some people 40 minutes is better then 46 mins

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2019 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   That Neil Guy   (Member)

Looks like the march is included in this vinyl release.

https://amzn.to/2Obiuw3



Even back when I was buying LPs I usually stayed away from picture discs. But I kind of want this.

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2019 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Looks like the march is included in this vinyl release.

https://amzn.to/2Obiuw3



Even back when I was buying LPs I usually stayed away from picture discs. But I kind of want this.


Picture discs have allegedly gotten better, but I don't buy it (literally!).

 
 Posted:   Mar 18, 2019 - 9:16 AM   
 By:   Mr. Marshall   (Member)

Looks like the march is included in this vinyl release.

https://amzn.to/2Obiuw3



Even back when I was buying LPs I usually stayed away from picture discs. But I kind of want this.



Nice#

 
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